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Title: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Realizt on May 02, 2020, 09:44:15 AM
Hello, please tell me where you can find these extensions and what they are called?
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 02, 2020, 10:59:16 AM
From what I see in the photos the tiles have rounded tips and there is one with the back with the letter K. Which means that it is the Russian edition of Carcassonne C2. I don't know which version of The River is the one that contains even a cult on a tile. It seems a kind of special edition of the river? I see many castle pieces for a conventional river. It is not edition I or II of the C2 river. The second photo is the Wheel of fortune in C2 !! It seems that our Russian friends have already edited it in C2 ?? Strange but not impossible ...  :o
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Brickmaster92 on May 02, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
Let's hope this means HiG is also working on doing the same with the Wheel of Fortune!
That river expansion looks awesome, too!
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Realizt on May 02, 2020, 11:09:22 AM
I myself am from Russia, and today I accidentally found an ad for the sale of these add-ons, I have not met them anywhere before,so I decided to ask on the forum.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 02, 2020, 11:14:46 AM
Now that I look better the first photo looks like stickers on blank tiles?
The second photo the design of C2 of the landscape is original of C2 but the symbols of the wheel and the wheel itself the design is of C1. It looks like a homemade montage but printed on blank tiles, but I've been looking at the Hobby World page and nothing similar appears. So it is not an official expansion now that I have investigated better.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: cicerunner on May 02, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
I myself am from Russia, and today I accidentally found an ad for the sale of these add-ons, I have not met them anywhere before,so I decided to ask on the forum.
Do you have a link to the ad?
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Willem on May 02, 2020, 04:18:26 PM
Interesting, never seen any of these before.
Seems like someone is quick with doing these in the new art.
I checked HobbyWorld, but they don't have this listed there.

So yes, could you share the link to the add?  ;D
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Realizt on May 02, 2020, 10:12:52 PM
Here is the link
https://www.avito.ru/moskva/sport_i_otdyh/dopolneniya_k_karkasson_novaya_redaktsiya_2019_1401033775?utm_campaign=native&utm_medium=item_page_android&utm_source=soc_sharing (https://www.avito.ru/moskva/sport_i_otdyh/dopolneniya_k_karkasson_novaya_redaktsiya_2019_1401033775?utm_campaign=native&utm_medium=item_page_android&utm_source=soc_sharing)
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: wolnic on May 03, 2020, 12:02:01 AM
Some of the river tiles appear to have been adapted from my Fluvium/Fluvium2 river tiles (original darker versions) - I can still see the droplet watermark/symbol on at least one of them ... second tile bottom row.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Meepledrone on May 03, 2020, 02:58:18 AM
Some of the river tiles appear to have been adapted from my Fluvium/Fluvium2 river tiles (original darker versions) - I can still see the droplet watermark/symbol on at least one of them ... second tile bottom row.

The used your tiles to create a C2 conversion of the Cities by the River fan expansion (page 1)  :o
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=247 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=247)
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Meepledrone on May 03, 2020, 03:00:48 AM
Here is the link
https://www.avito.ru/moskva/sport_i_otdyh/dopolneniya_k_karkasson_novaya_redaktsiya_2019_1401033775?utm_campaign=native&utm_medium=item_page_android&utm_source=soc_sharing (https://www.avito.ru/moskva/sport_i_otdyh/dopolneniya_k_karkasson_novaya_redaktsiya_2019_1401033775?utm_campaign=native&utm_medium=item_page_android&utm_source=soc_sharing)

This is a translation od what it is offered in the add:

New Edition (PnP based on official tiles with "K" on the back)

Wheel of Fortune as a Dop (19 Tyles, Starter Tablet, Mumps) 1000₽.
Leipzig Markets 300₽
Castles of Germany 400₽
German Monasteries 400₽
The plague. 500₽
Festival 500₽
Master of the Manor 300₽
City on the river 600₽
Labyrinth 150₽/300₽
Phantom 400₽
Bathhouses (Circles) 400₽
Tollkeepers (Customs) 600₽.
Wells 1000₽
Escape of the big black pig 400₽
Fruit Trees 500₽

Official Additions Carcassonne 2019
(tiles are not squeezed out)
Princess and Dragon 700₽
Count, King, cult 500₽.
Bridges 600₽
Bazaars 400₽
Locks 200₽
Cult 200₽
Count 200₽
King and robber 200₽
River II 600₽

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Edit: This is my 1600th post. How come?  :o
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 03, 2020, 04:25:54 AM
The truth is that they are very well made to not be official but sadly they are printed on russian tiles.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Willem on May 03, 2020, 09:44:52 AM
It does look pretty good for a fanmade PnP!
Even made the Plague for C2!

U do wonder where they got the blank Russian tiles from, haven't seen that before. Looks cool!
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Murphy013 on May 03, 2020, 12:24:32 PM
Did someone wrote a message to HiG?
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: aenima on May 03, 2020, 02:02:24 PM
Escape of the big black pig?!? WTF!!!  :o
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Meepledrone on May 03, 2020, 02:09:17 PM
I don't know if HiG or Hobby World or both should be involved in this...

@aenima Sorry for this unpleasant surprise. :(
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: aenima on May 03, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
I don't know if HiG or Hobby World or both should be involved in this...

@aenima Sorry for this unpleasant surprise. :(


Well... What can I say... It means he like very much my fan expansion  ;D
But HIG or hobby world should be informed.
In the past it was something we did against who made the same on eBay... It's totally illegal!
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Bumsakalaka on May 03, 2020, 11:04:43 PM
The Big Black Pig Escape is fan expansion
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=279
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: aenima on May 03, 2020, 11:30:19 PM
The Big Black Pig Escape is fan expansion
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=279

Yes, this is the point!
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Murphy013 on May 04, 2020, 12:52:56 AM
I wrote a message to CundCo
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Meepledrone on May 04, 2020, 12:55:14 AM
Thank you Murphy013!  :(y)

I'm intrigued with their reaction.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Murphy013 on May 04, 2020, 12:57:49 AM
I also wrote a message to HobbyWorld as well.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 04, 2020, 01:08:21 AM
I think I'm going to reserve my opinion ...


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Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Murphy013 on May 04, 2020, 01:25:08 AM
Let's see the reaction of HiG and HobbyWorld.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: aenima on May 04, 2020, 01:30:06 AM
I also wrote a message to HobbyWorld as well.

merit for you!
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: aenima on May 04, 2020, 02:32:22 AM
sooooooo.....
given the great success that Big Black Pig is getting all over the world ... here we go again !!!

rules 0.6 is now online!

"The Virus Lockdown is over and the Big Black Pig can escape... AGAIN!!!
More simple! More Big! more Black! More Pig then ever!!!  :@

All rules errors have been corrected.

for Old and New Edition!!!"

you can find it here:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=279

enjoy!!!  :@
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Carcatronn on May 04, 2020, 12:08:29 PM
Oh wow, Plague in Carc v2?? I know he is selling fan made tiles, but those look like very good prints! Also, this Big Black Pig sounds interesting  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Murphy013 on May 05, 2020, 01:13:42 AM
Yesterday I got a response. They take care about this case and informed their Russian partners to take actions against it.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: aenima on May 05, 2020, 01:36:18 AM
 
Yesterday I got a response. They take care about this case and informed their Russian partners to take actions against it.

 :(y)
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 05, 2020, 02:20:27 AM
Yesterday I got a response. They take care about this case and informed their Russian partners to take actions against it.
I don't think it will amount to anything. The world of carcassonne has many legal holes and they have built something a little hypocritical themselves by selling blank tiles. With a good lawyer it is easy to knock down any attack. I think they know that and I don't think they even bother.

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Carcatronn on May 05, 2020, 03:57:00 AM
I can’t say much about HobbyWorld or their Russian partners, but HiG means business when it comes to Carcassonne. Although it takes a bit of time, their legal team does take action. Working with them while I was running Carcassonne Shoppe, my contract was no joke. I also recall them wanting to draft up legal documents for posting fan expansions on the official site if memory serves me right.

Digging up the Carcassonne Coasters this past weekend made me think about repitching the idea of expansion coasters like River and Winter like originally planned (and what beautiful art these could make!) but having to go through the legal process and approvals was not easy the first time.  But people need to know it’s the right thing to do when it comes to someone else’s intellectual property. That, and if you do stuff like knockoffs, know that they will always have more money for lawyers than you do so make sure to listen to cease and desist orders.  :P
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Murphy013 on May 06, 2020, 06:24:41 AM
HobbyWorld forwarded the case to their legal office
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Meepledrone on May 06, 2020, 06:29:20 AM
That was fast!  :o

Let's see what happens next.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Bumsakalaka on May 06, 2020, 08:26:14 AM
When I first realized that there are other than large expansions, I found mini expansion and cundco.de
Then I found BoardGameGeek with list of all expansions and there were fan expansions ! WOW.
I was angry that I'm not able to find where to buy them.
Then I found a forum carcassonneforum.cz, carcassonnecentral.com and carcassonne-forum.de.
And I started research about fan expansions.
And I realized thet licence from HiG is good.
So I wrote to mine mind: You can't buy printed fan expansion.
But sometimes it's possible to find a "fan" on eBay or other services where is selling them.
So  what can happen:
1. When you buy it, the seller get a profit and than he is motivated to do it again and for greater profit
2. HiG will revoke the approval of fan expansions and we will only be able to purchase "few" official extensions.

So. I'm into stopping selling any printed extensions.
I'm also for sending information to HiG about all the cases where I or you so we will find out that someone is selling fan expansion.

Anyway, tile printing is fun. Even, that you can't achieve 100% success every time ;-D
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 06, 2020, 01:20:55 PM
OK, very good. Now imagine that you want several fan expansion but well printed in professional quality so that they do not clash with the official ones. There is someone who can access the printer and tells you if you want I can print it for you. But it turns out that printing is worth money. Would you pay to have it printed for you? Profit should not be confused with the costs of whatever is done.  ;)
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Bumsakalaka on May 07, 2020, 12:28:47 AM
Look. When I'm looking for somebody who will print it for me and he tell "ok. I'll do this" I thing it's fine.
But If I will search on internet and somebody will have webpage or ad that he is printing any expansions to carcasonne files, it's not good, because he is offering this printing carcassonne tiles.
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: DrMeeple on May 08, 2020, 07:53:04 AM
 C:-)  :(y)
Title: Re: Where can I find such extensions for Carc 2
Post by: Bumsakalaka on May 08, 2020, 10:31:18 AM
C:-)  :(y)

You know, my parents were C:-) :-)