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Title: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: aenima on September 07, 2018, 01:24:33 PM
http://www.nostheide.de/webshop3/product_info.php?products_id=590&language=de

 ;D

edit from Decar:

English link:
http://www.nostheide.de/webshop3/product_info.php?products_id=590&langauge=en

The magazine is SpielDoch Winter 2018 (2018/2)

Details:

contains 2 new tiles each for the basic game Carcassonne and for the new Carcassonne safari (elephant / lion + zebra / giraffe). there's also a saboteur duel promo.

small image attached shows a splitter and a 3way junction with some new component.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: totor66 on September 07, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
Ouuuh Me like it
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Christianmocking on September 07, 2018, 01:35:01 PM
Jee!
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Rich_The_Fish on September 07, 2018, 01:40:52 PM
Oooh, interesting
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 07, 2018, 02:38:29 PM
I've ordered some magazines. Let me know if you want one.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: supertopix on September 07, 2018, 02:56:31 PM

Is it for subscribers only?


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Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 07, 2018, 02:59:06 PM
No it was spielbox that sanctioned that weirdness a few months ago. and that was for rereleases of limited promos.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Willem on September 07, 2018, 03:35:44 PM
I've ordered some magazines. Let me know if you want one.

You're turning into a UK distributor for everything Carcassonne related Tom!
I would like one yes  ::)
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: whaleyland on September 07, 2018, 04:19:54 PM
Spiel DOCH! The strange Spielbox spinoff magazine that is only available in German and now has all the fun English-language promos. Because people were complaining about Spielbox being translated...? I'll get these tiles undoubtedly, but I am not thrilled getting yet another Spiel DOCH! issue that I can't read. To be fair, I AM learning to read German, but I am not nearly advanced enough to read a magazine like this.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: whaleyland on September 07, 2018, 08:24:22 PM
Here is a much higher-resolution version of those four tiles, taken from Spiel DOCH!s website. I don't know anything about Carcassonne Safari so I don't know what a Lion/Elephant or Zebra/Giraffe tile will add to the game. The two base game tiles seem pretty basic, though. The CCFF tile seems to just have a standard stable feature on it (not sure what animal, but that only matters for the Markets of Leipzig anyway), while the RRRF tile includes a village and a Garden. Again, nothing really unusual. There may be a small stable to the south of the village and the village does seem to be slightly larger than usual (is there a tiny fountain in the centre?), but it does not seem especially remarkable. I hope that the SPIEL and DOCH! written on the two tiles are just there so people don't copy/cut the tiles from the website and not some obnoxious watermarks. The Safari tiles have no such watermarks.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: supertopix on September 08, 2018, 03:28:34 AM
Ordered one!
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 09, 2018, 12:51:45 AM
elephants and lions are used in the set collection scoring when the road or jungle is completed.  The jungle also contains a bird that scores an extra point when scoring the jungle.  Nothing mechancially different to regulary safari.
of the regular tiles: i think the stable hosts a donkey.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 09, 2018, 01:56:57 AM
I've ordered some magazines. Let me know if you want one.

You're turning into a UK distributor for everything Carcassonne related Tom!
I would like one yes  ::)

we joked at the International Meet Up that I shoukld set up a business hauling items between Russia and the United states stopping off in Riga, Germany, Netherlands across the UK before visiting thr US.  ;D
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Maj. Frost on September 09, 2018, 06:32:55 AM
Shopping spreeeee!!!!

I have ordered this as well little building, wind roses, stickers and halflings (I got the last one already, just an extra for Decar).
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Xanderx12 on September 09, 2018, 12:43:39 PM
Hey Dec! Can I pay you one in Essen? And also, do Spielbox have a stand in the Spiel? I want to buy a couple of magazines, but the shipping cost piss me off :(
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 09, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
sure I can hold one for you. In 2016 they did - they may have some limites supplies though. I'm not quite sure.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: asp204 on September 09, 2018, 01:44:25 PM
I would like one please!

I've ordered some magazines. Let me know if you want one.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Willem on September 18, 2018, 12:52:56 PM
According to the Spiel Doch website, the 2 tiles for Carcassonne can be used together as alternative starting tile.
I don't think there will be any additional rules, just an alternative to the regular starting tile
I do suspect The watermark to be on the tiles, but that will be a wait and see i guess
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Halfling on September 19, 2018, 02:38:38 AM
My order just changed to shipped.......
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: totor66 on September 19, 2018, 03:02:06 AM
Snif, apaprently my Press shop will just have it on 26/09, date of release for them I suppose.

A shame if people who order have it first :)
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: meepleater on September 19, 2018, 05:54:12 AM
My order just changed to shipped.......

Mine too... curious to see it when it comes.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: whaleyland on September 19, 2018, 06:39:05 PM
Please share images of the actual tiles when they arrive. I suspect you are supposed to place the two tiles beside one another so that 'SPIEL' and 'DOCH!' are beside each other. I am really reluctant to buy this expansion. It costs over $15.00 to send to NZ for two tiles, plus a few more if I ever get the Safari spin-off. That's right up there with the Darmstadt and Kathar tiles in expensive, and I rarely play with either of those expansions. This doesn't even come with new rules, which makes it even less appealing, and the text on the tiles is just atrocious. What's next? A special Amazon expansion that includes the Amazon.com logo across all the tiles?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Halfling on September 19, 2018, 11:31:28 PM
Wow that would be great, the graffiti of carcassonne written in chalk cliffs or mud flats next to the river. Where are the creative amongst us when I need em?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Valheru on September 20, 2018, 01:53:43 PM
Please share images of the actual tiles when they arrive. I suspect you are supposed to place the two tiles beside one another so that 'SPIEL' and 'DOCH!' are beside each other. I am really reluctant to buy this expansion. It costs over $15.00 to send to NZ for two tiles, plus a few more if I ever get the Safari spin-off. That's right up there with the Darmstadt and Kathar tiles in expensive, and I rarely play with either of those expansions. This doesn't even come with new rules, which makes it even less appealing, and the text on the tiles is just atrocious. What's next? A special Amazon expansion that includes the Amazon.com logo across all the tiles?

Ask yourself: how big will be your regret when you don't buy it now, realise after a year or two you do need it in your life and pay perhaps double or triple?  8) 8)

Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Halfling on September 20, 2018, 09:11:20 PM
Please share images of the actual tiles when they arrive. I suspect you are supposed to place the two tiles beside one another so that 'SPIEL' and 'DOCH!' are beside each other. I am really reluctant to buy this expansion. It costs over $15.00 to send to NZ for two tiles, plus a few more if I ever get the Safari spin-off. That's right up there with the Darmstadt and Kathar tiles in expensive, and I rarely play with either of those expansions. This doesn't even come with new rules, which makes it even less appealing, and the text on the tiles is just atrocious. What's next? A special Amazon expansion that includes the Amazon.com logo across all the tiles?

Ask yourself: how big will be your regret when you don't buy it now, realise after a year or two you do need it in your life and pay perhaps double or triple?  8) 8)

It is an argument for the completionists but not one that will work for the players. I have had tunnels, cathers, besiegers, darmstadt, russian, halflings etc. But they didn't get enough usage due to their associated rules or art style and so i cashed them in and probably bought a whole different game with each. These new games (to my collection) do get played.

221b baker street
Splendor
Lords of waterdeep
Talisman dungeon 2nd edition
And soon ruthless.

And the christmas scoretrack has paid for my large tiles from ted
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: aenima on September 21, 2018, 06:10:20 AM
so?
any new rules for the 2 carcassonne tiles?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: oosie on September 21, 2018, 07:12:06 AM
so?
any new rules for the 2 carcassonne tiles?

Carcassonne expansion
German: "Die beiliegenden zwei Plattchen fur Carcassonne konnen zusammen als alternatives Startplattchen verwendet werden."
English: "The enclosed two plates for Carcassonne can be used together as an alternative startplate."

Carcassonne: Safari expansion
German: "Die beiliegenden zwei Plattchen fur Carcassonne - Safari werden einfach untergemischt. Auf jedem sind zwei verschiedene Tierarten zu sehen."
English: The enclosed two plates for Carcassonne - Safari are simply mixed in. Each one shows two different species of animals.""
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: danisthirty on September 21, 2018, 07:17:20 AM
Carcassonne expansion
German: "Die beiliegenden zwei Plattchen fur Carcassonne konnen zusammen als alternatives Startplattchen verwendet werden."
English: "The enclosed two plates for Carcassonne can be used together as an alternative startplate."

At least the rules are nice and simple, and I like that there would be two city segments available from the start so that the first player to draw a city cap doesn't automatically get a 4-point bonus. Or at least if they do, there is still a chance for the second player to do the same.

Is that watermark printed on the tile or on the sellophane wrap? If that's on the tile it could be the ugliest and most out of place watermark yet... >:(
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: oosie on September 21, 2018, 07:22:28 AM
Carcassonne expansion
German: "Die beiliegenden zwei Plattchen fur Carcassonne konnen zusammen als alternatives Startplattchen verwendet werden."
English: "The enclosed two plates for Carcassonne can be used together as an alternative startplate."

At least the rules are nice and simple, and I like that there would be two city segments available from the start so that the first player to draw a city cap doesn't automatically get a 4-point bonus. Or at least if they do, there is still a chance for the second player to do the same.

Is that watermark printed on the tile or on the sellophane wrap? If that's on the tile it could be the ugliest and most out of place watermark yet... >:(

The "watermark" is on the tiles themselves. One has "SPIEL" the other has "DOCH!" with some additional scribbling in a font too small for me to read now... (*sigh*... I'm getting old I guess.) In addition, there is also a more actual watermark on the tiles showing "SD".
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 21, 2018, 07:24:18 AM
awesome!
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Willem on September 21, 2018, 07:30:21 AM
Isn't there a 'SD' watermark on the labyrinth tiles to? I'll check when I get home, but seem to remember those having that to
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on September 21, 2018, 07:49:51 AM
what's the alhambra article about?

and is there a promo for saboteur:duel or just a big advert?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: oosie on September 21, 2018, 10:10:56 AM
Isn't there a 'SD' watermark on the labyrinth tiles to? I'll check when I get home, but seem to remember those having that to

Yes, there are apparently... (I never noticed that though...)
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: oosie on September 21, 2018, 10:16:08 AM
what's the alhambra article about?

and is there a promo for saboteur:duel or just a big advert?

My German is quite bad (even though I'm Dutch) but the article is named "The story of The Palace of Alhambra".

There's a trial game of Saboteur: Das Duel included.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Christianmocking on September 21, 2018, 01:47:56 PM
They should have come up with something better. Maybe it is time for us to create our own expansion, just like we all want it? Who is in?!:)
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: cidervampire on September 21, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
Seeing as I always play with the river, I guess I’ll never use this
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: whaleyland on September 21, 2018, 05:57:25 PM
There's a trial game of Saboteur: Das Duel included.
Is the trial game language independent at all (component-wise)?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Sinscerly on September 22, 2018, 06:57:21 AM
There's a trial game of Saboteur: Das Duel included.

I had that one, but didn't liked it. Or the persons I played didn't liked it. The game is a bit boring I think, it's fast but yeah. Played it 5 times to think about and then I got to less space so sold it
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Sinscerly on September 22, 2018, 06:58:19 AM
There's a trial game of Saboteur: Das Duel included.
Is the trial game language independent at all (component-wise)?
Yes Saboteur, is except the dwarf cards and Saboteur: Das Duel are both language independent. But also the dwarfes you can spot the difference about the good and bad ones.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Christianmocking on September 22, 2018, 10:25:05 AM
Here is a link to an ebay ad where you can see the tiles how they really are: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273474022517
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Maj. Frost on September 22, 2018, 01:01:23 PM
How did it end up on Ebay so fast? And 4 euros more than the price of spiel doch?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Willem on September 22, 2018, 01:23:22 PM
I must say I'm dissappointed that they have normal backs and not the darker backs like the normal starting tile.
Yes, they are easy to sort after a game due to the watermark, but it would've been a nice touch.

Oh well
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: aenima on September 24, 2018, 01:12:45 AM
Hellooo
A little question... what is the name of these tiles? or... how could we name them?
like the GQ#11? i don't know...  mmmmhhh SD#18/2 or SD mini expansion?  :o
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: whaleyland on September 24, 2018, 09:48:18 PM
At least until the next Spiel DOCH! expansion comes out, I think it is fine to call this just that: the Speil DOCH! Expansion. It joins half of the Labyrinth expansion to form a growing SD-related set of promo expansions unified by a shared watermark (much like Cult Places, Tunnels, and Plague for Spielbox).
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: InTheDark on November 03, 2018, 02:22:27 AM
If I order this from Cundco do I still get the tiles?
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Just a Bill on November 04, 2018, 05:43:29 AM
In addition to all the other negatives with these tiles (super-ugly presentation, wrong backs, opportunity cost of displacing several much superior starting-tile options), I have to ask...

What is the point of printing a garden on a tile that nobody deploys onto? (Yes, I realize you might get to use a flying machine or something in a game or two during the rest of your life, but seriously... who thought this made sense as a starting tile?)

Overall, these seem like two of the worst Carcassonne tiles that have ever been printed.

SD: Hello, HiG. We want another exclusive promo. Our last one was attractive and had interesting gameplay; however, this time we want a couple of tiles that do almost nothing interesting. Instead, we want our boring text-logo to absolutely dominate the tiles in a big, self-indulgent way that sets a new standard for injecting ugliness into the game right from the first turn.

HiG: Sure! We'll be happy to print for you whatever crap you need once your check clears! As you know, our addicts will buy literally anything that says Carcassonne on it. Now, they will probably almost never play these goofy tiles, so if your goal is brand exposure then this might not meet that goal. But if you just want to sell magazines, then this will probably do the trick.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Decar on November 04, 2018, 11:35:14 AM
The Safari tiles are nice
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Halfling on November 05, 2018, 02:59:46 AM
I add them in the bag with labyrinth and my signed tile and use as vanilla tiles.
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Maj. Frost on November 05, 2018, 01:12:19 PM
In case you ever need rules for the new Safari tiles :)
http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Spiel_Doch_Safari_Promo

You could use C2 tiles as regular tiles.
http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Spiel_Doch_Promo
Title: Re: Spiel Doch Magazine 2018/2 : 2 Carcassonne tiles & 2 Safari tiles
Post by: Geordieracer82 on November 16, 2018, 06:02:36 AM
Whilst they aren’t the prettiest tiles, I am still putting them in my game, but I am not using them as starting g times, too dull for that.