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Title: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on February 22, 2019, 04:42:16 AM
Players and Chosen Expansions

Danisthirty - The Besiegers
JackFace - Inns & Cathedrals
Leven - The Tunnels
MrNumbers - Abbey & Mayor
Rich_The_Fish - The Tower
Rosco - Traders & Builders
Thodekey - The Goldmines


Fixtures

Each player is to play a single two-person game of Carcassonne using JCloisterZone against each of the other players in the division. The starting date will be today Friday 22nd February 2019 and all games must be played and the results posted on this thread before midnight GMT on Friday 17th May 2019. The starting player in each case will be chosen at random.

The tile set for each game will consist of the base game and each of the competitors' chosen expansions, i.e. two expansions are to be used in every match.

The Division

As a result of each match, each player will be awarded league points according to the following rules:-

Most game points for roads – 1 point
Most game points for cities – 1 point
Most game points for cloisters – 1 point
Most game points for farms – 1 point
Most game points overall (formerly referred to as 'a win') – 1 point
Tying any of the above with opponent – 0.5 points

This means that all matches have 5 points available to be distributed to the two players.

A league table with points gained from matches played will be maintained and regularly posted to this thread by the tournament organiser.

The top ranked two players after all matches have been played will be declared 'Champion' and 'Runner-up' respectively. The lowest ranked two players will be eligible for relegation.

In addition to the Champion and Runner-up, the following will be awarded:-

The Brave Brigand – the player with the most league points for roads
The Knoble Knight – the player with the most league points for cities
The Crafty Cleric – the player with the most league points for cloisters
The Fruitful Farmer – the player with the most league points for farms
The Triumphant Tiler – the player with the most league points for winning games

After each match, it is the winner's responsibility to ensure that the result is posted to this thread clearly showing the points awarded separately for Roads, Cloisters, Cities and Farms.

This season, in the event of a tie on points, the league order will be firstly selected according to number of games won, followed by points difference. This is a minor change from the last season's rules.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on February 22, 2019, 07:29:44 AM
Looking forward to it! :(y)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on February 23, 2019, 01:05:38 PM
Anyone available now?

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Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on February 26, 2019, 02:31:04 AM
Anyone available to kick this league of next friday evening, the 1st of march?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on February 26, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
i am online this evening - anyone?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on February 27, 2019, 02:44:07 PM
BOOM! It's done. The league is underway...

Rosco and I had our match this evening and it was a 4 - 1 victory to me. Screenshots below:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/RossDan_PL_Spring.JPG)

I won on roads, cities and farms and got a nice 30-point boost towards winning the game overall from trade goods. Rosco however won almost as many points from cloisters as I did from farms!

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Dan_Rosco_20190227-221358.png)

Rosco got off to a better start than I did and before long had built himself a tidy city full of trade goods. When the opportunity to close this presented itself to me, I decided that rather than trying to kill it off and trap his builder in there I'd close it and take the trade goods. This gave Rosco a good points advantage, which he continued to develop with a cloister and a few other things. I looked at the scores at one point and he had exactly double my score at 66 - 33.

I was often frustrated whenever I tried to trap Rosco as he always knew what I was up to and had an annoying habit of escaping me. I was blessed with some good fortune at one point though when I managed to sneak a second knight into a large city that we had been sharing, closing it in the process for 32 points and a couple of trade tokens. This felt like a bit of a turning point, even though Rosco kept closing the points gap I was trying to build over him with yet more cloisters that always seemed to fit perfectly into the holes we kept accidentally leaving for them. ::)

I had gone for the farm early so was in a better position than Rosco who got an early one onto it, and attacked it very aggressively later on, but couldn't win it outright before the tiles ran out. This said, I had been looking at it (the farm) assuming it to be worth a bajillion points based on the number of besieged cities on it. Especially with my pig. But I hadn't focused on actually completing any of those cities (besides one) so the farm wasn't especially valuable in the end.

Thanks for the game Rosco! Good luck with the rest of the competition! :) :(y)

PS - Please can I have a bonus point for winning the same number of points from Cities as I did from Roads and Farms put together AND for winning the same number of points from Roads as I did from Trade Goods? That was the main thing I was aiming for from the start of the game TBH - and I achieved it! 8)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on March 01, 2019, 05:10:32 AM
Anyone available this evening or this weekend for a game in this league?

I promise i won't try to get end scores that add up points of one another like some already have.  The thought alone...  ::)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 01, 2019, 05:56:33 AM
Anyone available this evening or this weekend for a game in this league?

I promise i won't try to get end scores that add up points of one another like some already have.  The thought alone...  ::)

I will probably be free on Saturday or Sunday evening and would definitely be up for a game.

Can we say 20:30 UK/ 21:30 CET ?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on March 02, 2019, 04:35:10 AM
Hello Dan,

This evening 20:30 UK would be perfect.  I'll be hanging around in Slack this evening so I'll meet you there. ;-)

Anyone available this evening or this weekend for a game in this league?

I promise i won't try to get end scores that add up points of one another like some already have.  The thought alone...  ::)

I will probably be free on Saturday or Sunday evening and would definitely be up for a game.

Can we say 20:30 UK/ 21:30 CET ?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 02, 2019, 03:56:22 PM
Thodekey and I had our match earlier this evening and it was a 3 - 2 victory to me. Screenshots below:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Thodekey_PL_Spring.JPG)

As you can see, it was a pretty low-scoring game but I won most from roads and farms, and my honourable opponent won most points from cities and cloisters (well... a cloister which is all it took as I couldn't risk claiming any!). Most of my 11-point winning margin came from the gold, but this did of course win me one extra point for winning the game overall.

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Dan_Thodekey_20190302-212048.png)

It felt to me like we were both very evenly-matched throughout the game, with the balance of luck remaining fairly neutral. Trapping was a key tactic for both of us and as a result of not always being able to defend our meeples we both struggled and were left a little short towards the end of the game. One saving grace I had in this respect was that I'd been reminded of a key feature of Besiegers during my previous game with Rosco; this being that knights can escape from besieged cities if a cloister is placed adjacent to their city. I was able to rescue a trapped and ultimately worthless meeple in this way after Thodekey had expertly trapped him in the city in the south-east corner. This worked nicely!

In terms of gold, the vast majority of my gold came from a single road which ended up with either 5 or 6 gold bars sitting on it. I ended up giving away Thodekey's 12-point farm in order to win the road (and the gold) outright but felt that this was a sacrifice worth making and ended up winning more points from the adjacent farm anyway!

Many thanks to Thodekey for this fun and exciting game. Good luck for the rest of the competition! 8)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 04, 2019, 02:11:32 AM
At risk of sounding like I'm attempting to embark on a series of affairs, my wife is out of the house most evenings this week so I intend to use the freetime wisely by playing some of my Spring League games. :-*

Is anyone else available? It'd be good to get a few games booked in to the calendar!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 04, 2019, 03:32:42 PM
It's been a dark day for Carcassonne... :'(

Screenshots below:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jack_PL_Spring.JPG)

The main farm was fought over pretty fiercely, and since I failed to connect my seventh farmer to it for an outright win I couldn't secure an overall game-win. So, Jack won on farms, cities and cloisters, and the game, and I won on roads. Sad times. :(

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jack_Dan_20190304-115946.png)

Despite the result, and my comments above, this was a great game which I very much enjoyed played. It was obvious from early on that the growing farm was going to decide the game, and as we both added extra farmers to it it continued to grow in value and significance.

Jack drew more cloisters than I did and was brave enough to claim most of them. I did try to trap him in a few spots but he always defended himself well or seemed to draw what he needed to escape soon afterwards. I just couldn't keep him down! This was especially evident when I dropped a cathedral on a city cap that he had claimed as he was otherwise out of meeples and this was my attempt to make sure it stayed that way. However, he persevered with it and after immediately cutting me out of an attempt to share his points when I realised that he was getting dangerously close to completing it, he did just that, and even used this as an opportunity to get his double meeple onto the farm!

I was on the back foot after this and had a lot to overcome to keep myself in the game. I was lucky in a couple of places where I was fighting hard for a share of the farm and breathed a very slight sigh of relief when I eventually got it back to 4 meeples + double each. I needed the farm outright though, and with just a few tiles to go I attempted to get my final meeple onto it. With two tiles left in the bag it was still possible, but I didn't draw the tile I needed and so had a little cry instead. Jack took the 9-point farm at the top with the last tile of the game and that was it. Boom.

Thanks for yet another fun and exciting game Jack. And good luck with the rest of the competition... :(y)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on March 05, 2019, 03:42:31 AM
Great game as always, Dan. Fab write up too.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on March 05, 2019, 03:45:07 AM
Anyone free at any point today for a game?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on March 05, 2019, 04:02:38 AM
Yes I am free now ish

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Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on March 05, 2019, 04:32:09 AM
Sweet. Let’s do it!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on March 05, 2019, 08:05:05 AM
I’m free between now and 5.45pm GMT if anyone is around.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on March 05, 2019, 01:44:33 PM
Jackface 4 - Rosco 1

This felt like quite a tight game, with lots of our meeples trapped in a large incomplete cathedral city.
The cities in particular could've gone either way, with my final meeple placement giving me five points and the victory in that particular area.

Good game, and apologies for the long pause while I found some power for my flat battery.

Well played Rosco and good luck in the rest of the league.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 07, 2019, 09:11:37 AM
Hi All!

I have now come out of exile (hiding from Rosco) and have now put together the first Premiership League Table.

I have not had a chance to check this, so would be grateful if you could check your own scores and let me know if I have any bugs in my program (had to add an extra player to the spreadsheet, so it was untested).

Thanks!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 07, 2019, 09:24:50 AM
Thanks TheSteve. This looks mostly correct although it doesn't look as though your spreadsheet is adding the extra special bonus point I won for whatever it was I did in my game with Rosco. I've forgotten the details now but it was certain to have been both clever and crafty in equal measure.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 08, 2019, 02:07:56 AM
Hey hey.

Apologies for not posting sooner, but I assumed Leven was going to do the write-up as he was the winner and that's kind of become the tradition. But anyway, this game went just as badly (for me) as my last game, with the final result being that Leven won everything apart from Farms (4 - 1):

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Leven_PL_Spring.JPG)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Dan_Leven_20190307-210819.png)

I don't think this combination of expansions (Tunnels + Besiegers) made for an especially exciting game. The inclusion of Tunnels introduced the risk that if you had a meeple on an open-ended road then it could be permanently trapped in the event that your opponent draws a tunnel tile, places it at the end of the road and claims the tunnel. This was a risk that neither of us seemed prepared to take so road scoring was low. Other than this, my limited knowledge of Tunnels and the fact that it includes just 4 tiles meant that I didn't have a lot of interactions with them.

The other thing was that all of the Besiegers tiles seemed to come out early which reduced the significance of this expansion in the second half of the game.

The overall points winner of the game was undecided until the last couple of tiles where Leven needed the final ffff cloister to tie the main farm. I had a backup plan which involved joining another farmer of mine onto the field to retain my majority even in the event that Leven did draw the cloister he needed. However, he was able to mitigate this risk before I'd drawn the tile I needed to exploit it, and then drew the cloister he needed for 9 easy points and a tied farm.

Another tile that we both needed was the final cccf which I hoped I'd be able to use to join Leven's uncompleteable city to an adjacent besieged city rendering it worthless and reducing his final score by 10 (at risk of him utilising the cloister next to the besieger tile to get his meeple back if he so desired). However, this also went to Leven which allowed him to increase the value of his city and win himself another point for most city points in a game that was otherwise fairly even in this respect.

Thanks for the game Leven, and good luck with the rest of the competition! :(y)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 08, 2019, 02:12:33 AM
Hey hey.

Apologies for not posting sooner, but I assumed Leven was going to do the write-up as he was the winner and that's kind of become the tradition. But anyway, this game went just as badly (for me) as my last game, with the final result being that Leven won everything apart from Farms (4 - 1).

I don't think this combination of expansions (Tunnels + Besiegers) made for an especially exciting game. The inclusion of Tunnels introduced the risk that if you had a meeple on an open-ended road then it could be permanently trapped in the event that your opponent draws a tunnel tile, places it at the end of the road and claims the tunnel. This was a risk that neither of us seemed prepared to take so road scoring was low. Other than this, my limited knowledge of Tunnels and the fact that it includes just 4 tiles meant that I didn't have a lot of interactions with them.

The other thing was that all of the Besiegers tiles seemed to come out early which reduced the significance of this expansion in the second half of the game.

The overall points winner of the game was undecided until the last couple of tiles where Leven needed the final ffff cloister to tie the main farm. I had a backup plan which involved joining another farmer of mine onto the field to retain my majority even in the event that Leven did draw the cloister he needed. However, he was able to mitigate this risk before I'd drawn the tile I needed to exploit it, and then drew the cloister he needed for 9 easy points and a tied farm.

Another tile that we both needed was the final cccf which I hoped I'd be able to use to join Leven's uncompleteable city to an adjacent besieged city rendering it worthless and reducing his final score by 10 (at risk of him utilising the cloister next to the besieger tile to get his meeple back if he so desired). However, this also went to Leven which allowed him to increase the value of his city and win himself another point for most city points in a game that was otherwise fairly even in this respect.

Thanks for the game Leven, and good luck with the rest of the competition! :(y)

Do you have the screen shots for me to do the league table please?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on March 08, 2019, 02:20:32 AM
Do you have the screen shots for me to do the league table please?

Done! :(y)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on March 08, 2019, 04:37:43 AM
Anyone around tonight for a game?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 08, 2019, 04:46:30 AM
League table update. I believe that this includes all completed matches so far?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on March 09, 2019, 01:57:28 PM
:violet-meeple: Leven vs :green-meeple: JackFace 4:1

Jack and I missed each other at last year's world championship so now our first battle took place here at the Spring Divisional League.
I won the game by 50 points but that margin was almost entirely caused by my last tile which helped me to win a 24 point farm instead of losing it.

Jack suffered from meepleshortage for almost the whole game thanks to my cruel use of the tunnel chips (I trapped two of his followers that way), plus two other followers were stuck in an uncompletable city which later became worthless when I attached a cathedral to it. But even so, Jack was in the game, especially after a risky but successful attempt where he could join his big follower to the most valuable farm. Then he used his last follower to take the second largest farm as well but after that he had to play the last 5-6 turns without any meeple in supply (while I still had 4 including my big one). These final turns gave me enough opportunity to turn the game and with a little luck I could even win the large farm which explains the final point difference.
Thanks for the game, Jack, and good luck for your forthcoming games.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on March 09, 2019, 02:13:06 PM
Apologies for not posting sooner, but I assumed Leven was going to do the write-up as he was the winner and that's kind of become the tradition.
Apologies for not posting the result right after the game as winner, my mistake.
Thanks for the excellent write-up.  :(y)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 11, 2019, 02:29:25 AM
League table update.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rich_The_Fish on March 12, 2019, 03:12:45 PM
JackFace and I started playing our game tonight, but unfortunately with about 26 tiles left the online server had had enough and decided we couldn't finish our game.
I'd been saving it periodically just in case we had an issue, but now I need to rely on someone performing some technical magic (if it's possible) and hopefully resume another night.
It's a real shame as it was shaping up to be a really tense finish - I was running low on meeples but had managed to finally get a foothold in the main farm (once Jack ran out of tower pieces).
Screenshot attached showing how things looked just before it crashed.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on March 14, 2019, 02:20:42 PM
Regular Scoring:
196 Jackface - Thodekey 175

TheSteveAllen ScoringSystem:
2 Jackface - Thodekey 3

Strange and intense game!  I placed more meeples in the beginning then I ought too and after Jackface added a cathedral to the city where my big follower was, he successfully tried to trap that meeple...leaving me on hoping to draw that one CFRF-tile and rather soon than later.  I was lucky!
Meanwhile, I succeeded in scoring long roads (one with an inn in the south) and completing 2 cloisters which gave me an advantage in those features.  Jackface had superiority over the farms. 
Leaving the fight for the cities and points difference open.  Once again, I succeeded in loosing by points due to the expansion I choose myself: Jackface collected 9 gold bars, I only had 2: resulting in a 25 points advantage for Jackface. 
Luckily again, I drew the last cathedral, avoiding it to be added to one of my many uncompleted cities which would have surely cost me the overhand in the city points.
Jackface made an almost fruitful attempt to complete 2 cloisters in the last part of the game...coming only 1 point too short to succeed.

To conclude (1): I leaded the entire game on points but I never had the feeling I would win because Jackface was outsmarting me with his tile placement for a large part of the game. 
To conclude (2): gold doesn't love me at all but apart from that, I surely had the feeling luck was on my side.

I wish you the best in the games to come/complete, Jackface and thank you for the fun game.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on March 14, 2019, 02:22:01 PM
PS: thanks to TheSteveAllen for hosting our game!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 15, 2019, 03:18:38 AM
With 7 matches played the Premiership table looks like this:-
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rich_The_Fish on March 19, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Good evening all,

Tonight JackFace and I were able to continue the game we started a week ago (thanks for hosting it Dan). Play resumed with 32 tiles left (which unfortunately was a little more than we actually got down to, but this was the most recent save we had). I'm pretty sure neither of us had a good idea how we were performing with the unique scoring system for the league, which made it pretty difficult to know where it was most economical to use our remaining meeples. Despite a minor technical hitch due to a lost connection, we managed to finish the game. I'm pretty sure things were rather finely poised and points in each of the 4 categories could have gone either way in addition to overall points. Crucially, I had a couple of tower bases remaining whilst JackFace didn't have any, so I could be confident in my meeple placement that they couldn't be captured. The battle for the main farm continued and eventually we ended up sharing the spoils (worth 39 points each). Several of my meeples were skilfully trapped, whilst I ruined a potentially valuable city with a cathedral as it remained unfinished. JackFace drew most of the cloisters and took full advantage towards the end, creating an unassailable lead in this category, so I used the last one to try and reclaim the majority in the main farm but it didn't work out as JackFace drew the CCFF I needed with just 2 tiles remaining. On placement of the final tile, we were just 1 point apart, before final scoring. Overall, a very enjoyable game of two (unequal) halves - thanks very much for playing.

Final result (à la TheSteve):
 :red-meeple: RichTheFish 4
 :green-meeple: JackFace 1
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 20, 2019, 02:25:40 AM
Premiership League Table update - after Rich v Jack, the table is now like this:-
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on March 23, 2019, 12:24:16 PM
MrNumbers, Rich_The_Fish, Rosco, Thodekey: I can play a game this evening if any of you is around.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on March 23, 2019, 12:26:33 PM
I am not tonight but will be on Monday day or evening

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Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on March 23, 2019, 12:33:47 PM
I am not tonight but will be on Monday day or evening
Monday evening (from 21:00 CET) might be OK for me, too.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on March 25, 2019, 02:41:40 PM
Leven and i played our game tonight and it was fairly epic - we had a battle for a massive city which we ended up sharing but i took all the trade goods, we had trapped meeples on cloisters, we had tunnels doing all sorts of weird things and we had a massive farm battle!  All the way through it was fairly even and we seemed to be getting an equal amount of "good" tiles.  Leven made some very clever placements to try to equalise the farm which would have meant he would have scored the farm point but unfortunately i got the tiles he needed which meant i won the farm outright giving me a 4-1 score overall.  Thanks Leven!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on March 27, 2019, 02:36:53 AM
After 9 matches, the Premiership looks like this:-
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on April 30, 2019, 12:05:12 AM
No game has been played in the premiership in April. :( 12 out of 21 games are still ahead which seems an almost impossible mission as we have less than 3 weeks left from the competition. Still, I'd like to play my remaining games. MrNumbers, Rich_The_Fish, Thodekey: are you available for a game this week?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on April 30, 2019, 01:57:02 AM
Hello Leven,

I'm available tomorrow during the day and evening.  Would that work for you?

No game has been played in the premiership in April. :( 12 out of 21 games are still ahead which seems an almost impossible mission as we have less than 3 weeks left from the competition. Still, I'd like to play my remaining games. MrNumbers, Rich_The_Fish, Thodekey: are you available for a game this week?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on April 30, 2019, 03:31:02 AM
Hello Leven,

I'm available tomorrow during the day and evening.  Would that work for you?
Yes. How about 9 p.m. CEST?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on April 30, 2019, 04:42:02 AM
Deal!  I'll be hanging around in Slack around 9.00 PM CET then tomorrow.

Hello Leven,

I'm available tomorrow during the day and evening.  Would that work for you?
Yes. How about 9 p.m. CEST?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on April 30, 2019, 05:02:25 AM
Deal!  I'll be hanging around in Slack around 9.00 PM CET then tomorrow.

Hello Leven,

I'm available tomorrow during the day and evening.  Would that work for you?
Yes. How about 9 p.m. CEST?
Great. Me too.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on May 01, 2019, 01:41:34 PM
So, after an intermission of more than a month here is a new result from the premiership:

:violet-meeple: Leven vs :blue-meeple: Thodekey 3:2

(Probably it was the first CC-league game with the new (4.4.1) version of JCloisterZone where end game stats include the number of placed tiles and the consumed time of the players as well. I "won" these categories, too. ::) )
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: JackFace on May 06, 2019, 01:48:55 PM
Enjoyable game v MrNumbers tonight. I came out 3-2 winner, in match where we both thought i was on for a 5-0, so kudos to MrNumbers for a good comeback.

I think that's all my games in this league. I've really enjoyed it! Thanks all!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on May 07, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
Another game in the league:

:violet-meeple: Leven vs :red-meeple: RichTheFish 4:1

A very lucky game for me. I claimed easy 22 points for the big city in the north right after capturing Rich's knight from there. Rich desperately needed the last CFFF tile (to finish his city and to join his farmer to the big farm) but I drew that tile. And thanks to my very last tile I could win in farm points as well.

Thanks for the game, Rich, I wish you more luck in your forthcoming games.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on May 08, 2019, 01:59:53 PM
 :blue-meeple: Thodekey vs  :red-meeple: Rich_The_Fish 4-1

I couldn't blame Lady Luck in this enjoy game.  We played a quite defensive game on both sides, due to the tower expansion.  Some turning points decided the overall score:
- early on, I was able to trap 2 meeples of Rich in one move...Rich could only free both of them with that 1 RFCF-tile from the tower expansion but I drew that one.
- Rich possessed quite late the main farm but I captured his farmer some 10 tiles before the end.  After that, it was a "coin flip" who would take the farm back and again I was lucky
- we both completed 1 cloister, all others weren't scored due to the towers.  In my 2nd last turn, I drew the last cloister tile and placed it somewhere safe from the towers.  If Rich had drawn that tile, we would have won that feature.
- Rich's wife and daughter helped me in distracting Rich from this game (I owe them some beer and treats)  ;)

Good luck with the rest of your games and thank you for the game!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: MrNumbers on May 11, 2019, 12:31:43 PM
Is anybody free tonight for a game?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on May 11, 2019, 12:34:04 PM
I am.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: MrNumbers on May 11, 2019, 12:35:58 PM
I am in Slack channel.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on May 11, 2019, 02:31:26 PM
My last game in this league:

:violet-meeple: Leven vs :red-meeple: MrNumbers 5:0

I don't think this result is well-deserved, actually it is quite an unbelievable outcome considering that the final score of the game was 184:160 which is a moderate point difference and it was not a one-sided game at all. Towards the end of the game I managed to join my barn to the main farm (where MrNumbers had deployed his barn early in the game), without that I would have lost both overall points and farm points. I luckily won roads by 1 point, here my experience with tunnels helped me (6th game with this "nasty" expansion – as MrNumbers called it – within a few months, I suppose it matters much).
Thanks for the game, MrNumbers, I know you still have some games left, I wish you more luck in those.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 14, 2019, 03:19:53 AM
I played my match with Rich_The_Fish last night. It's been so long since I last played a match in this league that I'd almost forgotten what my chosen expansion was, and certainly didn't know that Rich had chosen the dreaded "Tower" until he selected it in the pre-game screen!

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/RichTheFish_PL_Spring.JPG)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rich_The_Fish_CoolDan_20190513-213155.png)

The game got off to a slow start with the drawing of a couple of early tower tiles meaning there were very few safe spots on the landscape. We both managed to grab a few points here and there, but it wasn't until the landscape had expanded a little that we were able to keep any meeples down for more than a couple of turns. This said, I did manage to generate a decent handful of points from what would have been a 20-point city (if it hadn't been besieged) which gave me a small lead that I was able to hang onto for a little while. Most other city points were generated from quick wins as the threat of being either kidnapped or besieged meant that neither of us were willing to claim many cities unless they could quickly be completed. I won 42 – 34 from city points.

With a completed, besieged city on the board, I launched myself headlong into the farm battle knowing that some if not all of my hopeful farmers would soon be returned to me after having been kidnapped from their strategic positions. Rich fought back here in a battle that raged on for much of the game, but despite numerous tower-related setbacks for both of us, I was eventually able to retain both the north-west and southern farms while Rich kept the north-east farm to himself. I won 48 – 15 from farm points.

The battle for cloister points was not a very high-scoring affair. They appeared to be missing for the early part of the game and I was starting to wonder if the computer had accidentally left them in their box rather than shuffling them in with the rest of the tiles at the start of the game. Rich discarded the first cloister of the game and I was determined not to do the same. However, in my joy at having finally drawn a cloister I made the mistake of putting it next to a besieged city of Rich's that I'd been trying to kill off. This gave him the perfect opportunity to let his knight escape, which he did, and my monk was kidnapped before I'd had the chance to complete it. Doh. Rich grabbed a couple of cloisters later in the game and claimed both even though it was unlikely either of them would be completed. I kidnapped one of his monks shortly before the end of the game, but couldn't get the other, so he won 7 – 0 from cloisters.

There was nothing very remarkable about the roads, other than that we ended up being so close on road points at the end of the game. I hadn't gone out to score points from roads specifically but grabbed an easy 2 or 3 points every now and again if I couldn't think of anything better/ safer. This seemed to be Rich's approach to roads too, but I was pretty sure he'd won them overall when he completed a 9-point road leading down from the fffr cloister instead of claiming the cloister itself. So this turned out to be a very lucky point for me when we saw that I'd beaten Rich in this respect by 23 – 22.

With roads, cities and farms in my favour, the final scores ended up swinging that way too; 113 – 78. This made the final scores 4 – 1 in my favour, although 3 – 2 to either of us seemed equally plausible for the majority of the game.

Thanks very much for the great game Rich!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 14, 2019, 03:29:42 AM
Is anybody free tonight for a game?

Any availability for this evening or later this week?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 14, 2019, 06:46:47 AM
I made a thing:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Results_14may19.JPG)
(don't worry about the numbers in the main part of the grid - they just represent the order in which the games were played)

The important thing to note is that there are still 6 games left to play before Friday!

Let's do this thing! C:-)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on May 14, 2019, 08:07:40 AM
Impressive, Dan!  ^-^

I hereby challenge Mr Numbers and Rosco.
I'm willing to play on these moments:

- thursday evening
- friday evening
- saturday during the day, not in the evening
- sunday during the day or evening
(and yes, Dan, i know that's technically after Friday but hey...living on the edge eh)

Would that work for you gentlemen?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on May 14, 2019, 08:57:11 AM
A BIG apology guys! I appear to have stopped getting notification messages about additions to this thread and I was totally unaware that these games had been played. This has made me very happy seeing that the league has not been totally abandoned!!

The up-to-date league table is attached.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on May 14, 2019, 08:59:53 AM
Thursday would be good for me. 


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Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: MrNumbers on May 14, 2019, 12:56:54 PM
Is anybody free tonight for a game?

Any availability for this evening or later this week?
I am free now.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 15, 2019, 03:58:22 AM
Is anybody free tonight for a game?

Any availability for this evening or later this week?
I am free now.

Sorry I missed you last night MrNumbers, but as explained, I was playing my basegame league match against TheSteve. Hoping to catch you tonight though?
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 15, 2019, 02:31:17 PM
This evening I played my match with my good friend and long-standing Carcassonne rival MrNumbers. I can't pretend that I was particularly looking forward to this clash as I have a terrible track record a) against MrNumbers, and b) with Abbey & Mayor. However, the final result surprised me as I'm sure it will you too:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MrNumbers_PL_Spring.JPG)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Dan_MrNumbers_20190515-212801.png)

I could spend a long time writing about the events that took place in this game, but there were really only a few key moments. The first of which occurred within the first dozen tiles when I was given the chance to place my barn on a field containing just one (besieged) city that I was already farming. It was risky, but I was glad just to have my barn down even if it only got me a few points as I tend to let them go to waste otherwise. As it was, I could concentrate on expanding my farm and dropping extra farmers onto it whenever safe opportunities to do so arose, and I also had several opportunities to claim some minor/ adjacent farms towards the end of the game which all helped to boost my score significantly.

Another thing to mention about this game was that a lot of cloisters seemed to come out very early. MrNumbers and I both seemed to spur each other on in this respect as neither of us wanted to forego a championship point for the sake of a single unclaimed cloister! It meant we both struggled for meeples at points while we both had 2 or 3 monks each down at the same time though, and with this came some difficult decisions when neither of us had more than 1 or 2 meeples left to commit elsewhere. Also weird, was the fact that there was only ever one space suitable for an Abbey and that was because I created one with the sole purpose of placing my Abbey in it (and completing a city and another cloister in the process).

I was very lucky with respect to cities and seemed to draw some great splitter tiles at some key moments when I most needed them. Not only did this mean I didn't lose out on too many city points (with the exception of the huge besieged city in the east that MrNumbers won outright after some effort) but it also added extra cities to my barn farm.

I didn't score many points from roads, although I hadn't realised that MrNumbers had outscored me so significantly here either. This was something I was willing to let go, mostly because I tended to use road tiles as an opportunity to get extra farmers back onto my barn farm rather than claiming the roads themselves. Clearly MrNumbers wasn't going to do this, and expand my barn farm in the process, so it makes sense that he would have picked up more road points than I did.

So, at the end of it all it was 4 - 1 to me and +170 PD thanks in no small part to the favourable tile draws. Thanks very much for the game MrNumbers and good luck with the rest of your matches!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on May 16, 2019, 01:31:55 PM
Rosco  :red-meeple: 0 - 5  :blue-meeple: Thodekey

Many tiles, many cloisters, many city parts and gold! That ought te be the recipe for a challenging game.
Both of us started building our own city and making it bigger with the builder.  One of the key factors was that I was lucky to complete mine quite fast while Rosco -also due to my nevertheless not succeeded attempt of blocking that city- struggled in completing his one.
I drew some gold tiles in the start, Rosco per caught up on me on that one.

In scoring cloisters, both of us were quite cautious.  I succeeded in closing on of my cloisters while I could block one of Rosco's cloisters.
I was lucky to share the city in the far north and leading 2-1 in the city just below that one, including my builder.  In one turn, I could complete that one and the one above...which not only gave me some extra points advantage but also gave me the upper hand in the trading goods. (till that point, Rosco was leading in it)
The end, we both concentrated on the largest farm I had claimed first.  With a golden round-a-bout Rosco took the gamble of joining that farm and even increasing it more.  With some big luck, I succeeded in joining 2 more farmers and blocked one attempt of Rosco.

The result was a 0-5 score, although the game sure didn't feel unbalanced.  It just was one of those rare occasions where all the right tiles came my way on the right moment.

I wish you the best in your upcoming games, Rosco!

And for the gold: well, I lost that feature again on points.  And the same goes up for the consumed time.  ??? 
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rich_The_Fish on May 16, 2019, 02:59:24 PM
Rich_The_Fish  :yellow-meeple: 4 - 1  :red-meeple: MrNumbers

Note: It's late and need to make my bed after doing the washing earlier! Write up to follow tomorrow night (hopefully) as I'll be playing Rosco tomorrow lunchtime so won't get chance then. Cheers
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 16, 2019, 03:12:07 PM
I made a thing:

The important thing to note is that there are still 6 3 games left to play before Friday!
  • Danisthirty vs. MrNumbers
  • MrNumbers vs. Rich_The_Fish
  • MrNumbers vs. Rosco
  • MrNumbers vs. Thodekey
  • Rich_The_Fish vs. Rosco
  • Rosco vs. Thodekey

Looks like MrNumbers and Rosco are going to have a busy day tomorrow!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on May 16, 2019, 03:24:55 PM
I am hoping Mr numbers can play during the day tomorrow.
I am working at night

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Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on May 17, 2019, 05:57:01 AM
Well that was tense - we hadf a bit of a nightmare in the middle with the connection but what a game!

Rosco ( :red-meeple:) 171 - 159 - ( :yellow-meeple:) Rich_the_fish

From the start i was losing meeples to the towers left right and centre - i think that at one point Rich had 5 of my meeples!  I kept claiming features and buying back a meeple but it was only much later that i managed to turn the meeple capture around.

It was a very close game and fairly evenly matched in terms of luck and skill i thought. 

Great game - could have gone either way - 3 - 2 on features.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 17, 2019, 06:25:10 AM
W00t!

2 more to go... :) :(y)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Rosco on May 17, 2019, 06:34:14 AM
Mr numbers and I may struggle  to finish this weekend.

Can we have a homework extension please sir?

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Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: MrNumbers on May 18, 2019, 07:47:10 AM
MrNumbers vs. thodekey
205:202
4:1

At least one win in this season, and again, I failed to use my own expansion - my barn left unplaced. Still, I managed to win all other features, but gold helped me to win in overall points. Thanks for the enjoyable game, Thomas! :)

P.S. To avoid relegation, I must win Rosco with at least 2 league points difference (4-1 or 5-0), or 1 league point (3-2) and 168 game points difference.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on May 20, 2019, 02:01:44 PM
I will be updating the league table in the morning and discussing outstanding matches once this is complete.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: MrNumbers on May 20, 2019, 02:14:54 PM
Last game of the season is over!

MrNumbers vs. Rosco
285:235
4:1

A quick game with Rosco, and again I lost the farms, but managed to win everything else :)
With this win I avoided relegation :o (phew!)

Thanks everyone for the games and for the patience ::)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on May 21, 2019, 01:58:45 AM
A big thanks to all players for making this league happen and for finishing all fixtures (nearly) on time!!

Congratulations to Leven for winning the title and to everyone else for making the tournament so close and interesting.

I will be sorting out the Summer league this week.

Final table attached.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 21, 2019, 06:22:19 AM
Thanks for overseeing it all TheSteve, and for coming up with the concept in the first place!

Congratulations Leven for coming out on top. Really pleased we managed to get all of our games played, and delighted to have won myself a title in the process too!
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: thodekey on May 22, 2019, 12:32:14 AM
Hello gentlemen,

Indeed a big thank you to The OneAndOnlySteve for all the effort he puts in this competition.
Also a special thanks to all of the competitors for making it possible to play all of the games and to all the people who have been so kind to host these games.

Allready looking forward to the summer edition.

Your "Knoble Knight" Thodekey  ;)
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: MrNumbers on May 22, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
Thanks, Steve, for organizing this league!  :(y)
Am I missing something, or no games were played in Championship division? :o
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: danisthirty on May 23, 2019, 07:22:00 AM
Am I missing something, or no games were played in Championship division? :o

Certainly looks that way... :(
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: Leven on May 23, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
Thanks to all of you, and especially to the organizer Steve for this great competition. :(y) The format is excellent, every game is different thanks to the varying combination of the expansions. I'm already looking forward to the next season.

It seems I could confuse some of you with the tunnels (I have to admit that it's a dangerous expansion if you don't have any previous experience with that) but I also hope that you agree with me that it is a fun expansion even if some find the official rules controversial and erroneous (and there has been attempts to create rule variants (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2571.0)).

I find it quite strange that the other division hasn't started at all. But as the Championship has no winner, I assume that noone will be relegated from the premiership.
Title: Re: CCDL - Premiership Spring 2019
Post by: TheSteveAllen on May 23, 2019, 02:49:19 PM
Just to bring everyone into the picture, the Championship never started this time around, and I have been too busy in real life trying to get it going at a late stage.

This having been said, the Summer league will be starting soon and I will be putting up a post this weekend for everyone to sign up.

The structure of the league will depend on how many sign up, but all apart from the two ‘elegible for relegation’ in the bottom two places will definitely for the Premiership, assuming that they want to play again.

I will be trying to create two of more leagues but, this time, with people who are committed to playing their matches with no need for reminders from myself.

My guess is that Halfling, Chooselife and Myself will all be added to the pool of players, and I hope that some of those that are currently playing in the base game league would like to join us too.

Thanks to all of you in the Premiership, we managed a competition that literally ‘ran itself’ with no jollying along from me. This is how it should be.

As I said, a new post for signing up will be created on Saturday, and I am hoping that all of you guys will be taking part once again.