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Title: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: CorporalRutland on July 26, 2019, 03:16:08 AM
Hello everyone,

I finally dusted off my 'complete' (less Corn Circles I and Solovei Razboynik and Vodyanoy at least) first edition Carcassonne box and organised it all.

I've read that apparently there were plans to re-realise UtBT with the original art. (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3031.210)

I'd be happy to even buy a copy and print replacement stickers. Does anyone know if the project ever came to fruition?

Likewise, if anyone knows if similar happened for the Watchtowers that would be great to know.

Thanks
Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: Meepledrone on July 26, 2019, 04:50:28 AM
Hi CorporalRutland,

You are not new to forums so congrats for your first post!  :(y)

You will find an ongoing project on Carcassonne Forum (CarcF) to create an authorized C1 version of Under the Big Top. It is not finished yet, but you can find some tiles and token you can use for PnP here:

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=325&t=3709&start=60#p50059 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=325&t=3709&start=60#p50059)

On CarcF they also have authorised conversions of The Watchtowers and The Abbot to C1. The download files are here:

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=310 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=310)

The access the downloads you will need to register on CarcF and post at least 5 times.

As a side note, CarcF is also working on authorised conversions of The Plague and the mini expansion GQ#11 to C2



EDIT: You can find here the threads discussing some conversions (The Plague to C2, The GQ#11 to C2 and UtBT to C1 as of today) here:

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=324 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=324)

The current state of affairs is next (translated info from
this CarcF post (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=324&t=3776&start=105#p62347)):

---
1st half-year 2017: The Abbot [PresetM, finished], the current plates are added continuously
1st half-year 2017: The Watchtowers [PresetM, finished]
2nd half-year 2017: GQ#11 [Ratz65, almost finished]
2nd half-year 2017: The Plague [PresetM, almost finished]

1st half-year 2018: Under the Big Top [PhillippJConrad, ?]
1st half-year 2018: ?
2nd half-year 2018: ?
2nd half-year 2018: ?

1st half-year 2019: ?
1st half-year 2019: ?

As you can see, the forum has fallen behind badly...
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Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

Cheers!
Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: CorporalRutland on July 26, 2019, 05:55:11 AM
Thanks for this! Unfortunately, I can't see myself needing to make many posts. As you said, it's my first post here despite having a very old account.

Thank you for the UtBT link. I'll be making use of those tiles for sure.
Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: Meepledrone on July 26, 2019, 06:14:41 AM
No problem! I spent several months until I first posted. It's normal... Your account is only 4 years old.  ;)

Why not sharing the UtbT tiles you create a sample game with them? The ones available contain several options for the tiles with gardens and a couple of versions for tokens. What will be your pick.

If you need some support, you may find the UtbT rules and tile distribution here, at WICA

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Under_the_Big_Top (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Under_the_Big_Top)

What about the C1 Watchtowers or the C1 Abbot tiles?

Cheers!
Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: DrMeeple on July 26, 2019, 05:02:44 PM
Hi CorporalRutland,

You are not new to forums so congrats for your first post!  :(y)

You will find an ongoing project on Carcassonne Forum (CarcF) to create an authorized C1 version of Under the Big Top. It is not finished yet, but you can find some tiles and token you can use for PnP here:

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=325&t=3709&start=60#p50059 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=325&t=3709&start=60#p50059)

On CarcF they also have authorised conversions of The Watchtowers and The Abbot to C1. The download files are here:

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=310 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=310)

The access the downloads you will need to register on CarcF and post at least 5 times.

As a side note, CarcF is also working on authorised conversions of The Plague and the mini expansion GQ#11 to C2



EDIT: You can find here the threads discussing some conversions (The Plague to C2, The GQ#11 to C2 and UtBT to C1 as of today) here:

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=324 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewforum.php?f=324)

The current state of affairs is next (translated info from
this CarcF post (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=324&t=3776&start=105#p62347)):

---
1st half-year 2017: The Abbot [PresetM, finished], the current plates are added continuously
1st half-year 2017: The Watchtowers [PresetM, finished]
2nd half-year 2017: GQ#11 [Ratz65, almost finished]
2nd half-year 2017: The Plague [PresetM, almost finished]

1st half-year 2018: Under the Big Top [PhillippJConrad, ?]
1st half-year 2018: ?
2nd half-year 2018: ?
2nd half-year 2018: ?

1st half-year 2019: ?
1st half-year 2019: ?

As you can see, the forum has fallen behind badly...
---
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

Cheers!
Hahahaha I love how do you do the chronology hahahaha it's C1 Converter department of CarcF closed?? Seems yes hahahaha

Enviado desde mi XT1700 mediante Tapatalk

Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: Meepledrone on July 27, 2019, 01:13:20 AM
It's not a chronology of mine. It's the roadmap available on CarcF showing their progress.

They got permission from HiG to produce two conversions per year.

Although they lost some steam, it is an interesting that in cases such as The Plague they are working on updating rules and  clarifying some interactions with newer expansions with the validation of HiG. A couple of examples:

* One example is the well known "once at any time during your turn you may..." that could create some conflicts and contradictions with double turns, moving plague tokens and placing outbreak tokens.

* Other topic covered may help clarify whether special figures may flee from the plague. 

So I would keep an eye on the outcome. This work can become the source of new official clarifications.  ;D
Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: wolnic on July 27, 2019, 02:51:33 AM
Additionally, although you may find draft versions of the tiles on the particular threads, the final tiles have to be agreed by HiG before the expansion is deemed to be complete, so that can add time to the overall process as well.
Title: Re: UtBT, Watchtowers v1 Art
Post by: DrMeeple on July 27, 2019, 04:30:06 AM
Additionally, although you may find draft versions of the tiles on the particular threads, the final tiles have to be agreed by HiG before the expansion is deemed to be complete, so that can add time to the overall process as well.


I understand that it takes time. But it seems strange to me that it is so slow. I think that HiG's people don't pay much attention to the subject and are more because of C2 news ...