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Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:04:39 AM »
This cropped up on FaceBook a week or so back from a post by Carcassonne Central (shared from Hans Im Gluck), I'm assuming that comes out of here? It was suggesting that people with Winter Carcassonne should buy the Gingerbread Man expansion. So me being me waded in with all all guns blazing and the following conversation ensued:

ME: Not exactly a lot of point as this expansion is supplied inside Carcassone Winter Edition sets.... Well, it was when I got mine.

CarcassonneCentral: It's not intended to be included inside the Winter Edition set, but some retailers were giving it away with purchase when it came out originally.

Me: So how come it's printed about it's inclusion directly on my box and the rules for it are on the same sheet as the main rules?

CarcassonneCentral: Hmm... must be a North America thing. Some of us were impatient and bought the German version.

Me: Nope, bought in a basic toy shop in Devon. UK. Z-man ZMG78610.

At that point the conversation stopped. So here it is again for all to discuss!  :) As stated above, mine was purchased in a private toyshop (franchised with Toymaster) in Plymouth, Devon, UK not that long after it's original release. The shop sells mostly kids toys with a few shelves of reasonable games at the back. He usually has a few copies of Carcassonne games and the odd expansion.

My box has it printed on the front lid that it includes the Gingerbread expansion... Not a sticker. On the back it's included within the contents list and the expansion rules printed on the back page of the main rules sheet.


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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 08:42:22 AM »
Not sure exactly, when it changed, but recent versions do not contain the Gingerbread expansion.  Some do, some don't.

I do not think the German release ever came with Gingerbread, as it was sold at Cundco. 

This is probably Z-man's doing.  I get the feeling most US citizens have to put up with not having Gingerbread. 

Paul was missing the expansion too, but I'm not sure which publisher he got it from.

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 08:45:39 AM »
Exactly. Some do, some don't. If you have it then don't buy it again. If you don't then it's recommended as it's fun to play with. There isn't a lot to discuss really.

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 06:55:50 AM »
That's me told then!!

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 07:10:32 AM »
As far as I know about this:
The first print of the CC Winter-Edition from Zman games - there was the Gingerbread Man included in the box from the base game Carcassonne Winter-Edition published in 2013. The first year that Zman games has become the license from HiG was in 2012. But they first published the standard Carcassonne products.
The  CC Winter-Edition for the Germans have been published in 2012. The mini-expansion "The Gingerbread Man" was also published in 2012 - till this time it is an article at CundCo.

I never saw the rule book from Zman games included the Gingerbread Man rule.
I always thought, that there was an own small rule paper for the Gingerbread Man included the CC Winter-Edition box.

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2015, 08:44:11 AM »
Well done Kettlefish, I think that's the answer, but yes indeed, my set does definitely have the full Winter Carcassonne Instruction booklet with the back page dedicated to the Gingerbread Man rules.


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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2015, 09:31:47 AM »
zman games has the English rule book in the downloadable files at their homepage.

The English rule book is without the front box page (so not like the German rule book from HiG) - it starts directly with the rule text - that means the book has at page 8 place for the Gingerbread Man rule.

The rule at zman games:
The picture - looks bad with the components of the 6 tiles.

Here is the German rule from the mini-expansion "Der Lebkuchenmann"
« Last Edit: December 31, 2015, 09:48:15 AM by kettlefish »

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2015, 09:41:39 AM »
I have the Z-Man Winter Edition that came with the GB. I'll post pictures of the box and rule book when I return home from holidays.

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2016, 09:48:29 AM »
I have confirmed:

1st Edition Zman had gingerbreadman on the box.

2nd Edition Zman did not have gingerbreadman included.

Here are the boxes

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2016, 09:56:08 AM »
Also, here are the Zman rules, which include the Gingerbread man on page8:

http://www.zmangames.com/uploads/4/7/1/7/47170931/carcassonne_winter.pdf

The HiG rules, are similar buy only have 7 pages + the front cover:

http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/fileadmin/data_archive/Regeln/CarcWinterRegel_Final_Low.pdf

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2016, 09:57:17 AM »
I have confirmed:

1st Edition Zman had gingerbreadman on the box.

2nd Edition Zman did not have gingerbreadman included.

Here are the boxes

Ta-dah!!  :brown-meeple: ;D

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2016, 04:33:16 AM »
I have confirmed:

1st Edition Zman had gingerbreadman on the box.

Yep, your first box is the same one I have. This is written on the back of the box:


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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2016, 07:01:22 AM »
I wonder if anyone was disappointed to find out the gingerbread man wasn't edible.

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Re: Winter Carcassonne and the Gingerbread Man Expansion together
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2016, 07:41:27 AM »
I was in too much of a hurry to wait for Z-Man games to release it and bought the HiG box without the Gingerbread Man. I intended to buy the Gingerbread Man from Cundco but it was out of stock for months so I ended up getting it from eBay instead.

I wonder if anyone was disappointed to find out the gingerbread man wasn't edible.

I ate mine. I had to house-rule it especially so that I could but we do now need another Gingerbread Man though... :-[


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