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Title: Shepherd's field gets completed by another player
Post by: mPony on October 16, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
On Reddit the following photo was posted: http://imgur.com/90ty52N

It seems the field containing the grey shepherd was fully enclosed by a different player. No more tiles can extend that field.  Of course if the pasture was enclosed by the grey player they would retrieve their shepherd and score for their sheep. 

But what happens to the grey shepherd when someone else encloses that pasture?  Is it stuck there until the end of the game? Does it return to the grey player scoring no points? Does it return to the grey player scoring points for the sheep?
Title: Re: Shepherd's field gets completed by another player
Post by: aenima on October 16, 2016, 01:14:57 PM
Is it stuck there until the end of the game?

I think so...
Title: Re: Shepherd's field gets completed by another player
Post by: Rosco on October 16, 2016, 02:39:17 PM
You can claim shepherd points and retrieve the shepherd at any time as your move the wood phase

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Title: Re: Shepherd's field gets completed by another player
Post by: Halfling on October 16, 2016, 11:21:13 PM
You can only reclaim the shepherd if you extend the farm in which the shepherd resides.  As this farm is enclosed the shepherd is stuck in my opinion.
Title: Re: Shepherd's field gets completed by another player
Post by: kettlefish on October 17, 2016, 01:59:28 AM
On Reddit the following photo was posted: http://imgur.com/90ty52N

It seems the field containing the grey shepherd was fully enclosed by a different player. No more tiles can extend that field.  Of course if the pasture was enclosed by the grey player they would retrieve their shepherd and score for their sheep. 
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But what happens to the grey shepherd when someone else encloses that pasture?
In the BigBox5 from 2014 - German rule book is this situation in the rules as a "special case" (page 11).
If a player surrounded a farm complete with roads and citywalls, then the action "gather the flock" triggers.

Is it stuck there until the end of the game?
No, it isn't.

Does it return to the grey player scoring no points?
No, this suggestion is wrong.

Does it return to the grey player scoring points for the sheep?
Yes, this is right. The shepherd returns to the grey players supply and he gets the points for the sheep.
The sheep return into the bag.