I think that Matt Harper didn't saw the problem of the just finished features and the magic portal: cloister and cult place.No - the follower can't be placed on that finished cloister.
Incredible job that all of you did on those Rules, really impressed.Keep doing this wonderful job, I was redirected here from BGG and first thing I did was to read almost completely this file
You may claim an unclaimed tunnel portal by placing a tunnel token on it
I notice in the "any time" portion of the turn play order.QuoteYou may claim an unclaimed tunnel portal by placing a tunnel token on itI note that it is theoretically possible for this to complete a road that is entirely unrelated to the tile just placed. I presume that step 6 is also immediately executed for this road independently of anything else and this might even happen inside a different step 6.
Until there is a clarification to the contrary, I would think that a road completed by a tunnel token is scored at the same time as features completed by tile placement -- during the scoring phase.
I'm not convinced that scoring occurs immediately after completion, since there's no comment in the rules about immediately scoring a completed tunnel road. In fact, immediate scoring could lead to rules abuse. For example, if I have no more followers in my pool, I could place a tile, place a tunnel token to complete a road, score that road, return the follower to my hand, then have a follower to place on the tile that I just played (since we haven't gotten to the move wood phase yet).
Until there is a clarification to the contrary, I would think that a road completed by a tunnel token is scored at the same time as features completed by tile placement -- during the scoring phase. Within that phase, the active player gets to choose what order everything is scored in, and if the tunnel token is placed during the scoring phase, a newly-completed tunnel would just enter the queue to be scored as well.
How would you handle the tunnel being completed after the scoring phase if that prescribed opportunity to score has passed? You have to suppose that the tunnel road does get scored if completed after the scoring phase (not just abandoned), so by extension one would reason it could be scored even before the scoring phase. To uphold the definition of "any time".
Regarding the placement of a Flea - it would seem a player could flea his own follower (anytime) in order to have one to place that turn. Also, is there a similar sequence with the Tower if a player ransoms a follower back at anytime? (Although admittedly there is a cost associated with that one.)
Quote from: obervet on July 24, 2014, 07:20:04 AMUntil there is a clarification to the contrary, I would think that a road completed by a tunnel token is scored at the same time as features completed by tile placement -- during the scoring phase.The concern you raise is valid regarding timing, but that may just be a matter of preference. How would you handle the tunnel being completed after the scoring phase if that prescribed opportunity to score has passed? You have to suppose that the tunnel road does get scored if completed after the scoring phase (not just abandoned), so by extension one would reason it could be scored even before the scoring phase. To uphold the definition of "any time".
Multiple comments which are not repeated here to save space.
The fairy actually cannot be moved after the Festival is used (see footnote 381, CAR 7.0).
I don't think I understand your point about order of resolution for scoring. A number of official clarifications indicate that the active player chooses the order that features score (see footnote 444 in CAR 7.0, for example). Is there something in the turn order that contradicts this?
green - 2red - 5blue - 5green - 3blue - 3
In going back and reading the rules, I think there is actually an argument to be made for tunnel token placement during the Move Wood phase. The rules state that the token may be placed "on the land tile which has just been placed", seemingly indicating that this is after tile placement. It doesn't say that you can't place a token during the scoring phase, but to me it kind of sounds like a Move Wood action that doesn't prevent follower placement.
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