Carcassonne Central
Off Topic => Other Games => Topic started by: MrNumbers on August 30, 2014, 06:24:10 AM
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Just returned from national Ticket to Ride championship. I think that the format used in the tournament is wrong.
We were 9 participants, played on 3 tables, 3 players on each. 2 games were played, one on USA map and 1 on Europe map. I won both games. But 3 finalists were determined by the sum of points from two games and by that factor I remained 4th. Maybe it is the only championship in the world where you can win all qualifying games and don't get to the finals :-\
What do you think? Is it fair format? ???
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That is strange indeed.. and not logical at all..
normaly the amount of points is the second thing to be looked at. so.. meaning that there were 6 games, and 3 winners.. all 3 winners should be qualified and the amount of points would be used to determine whos 1st, 2nd or 3th
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This just sounds wrong! How can you win both games and only get 4th? - craziness!
Write a letter to the organizers and maybe they will revise the rules before next years tournament.
:black-meeple:
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meaning that there were 6 games, and 3 winners
Not exactly 3 winners: in each game there could be different winner, so we could have 6 winners as maximum.
I won my games with 125 points (USA) and 134 points (Europe). But on other tables people managed to win with 143, 153, 155 points (Europe) and 122, 123, 120 points (USA) and got the higher sum. My point is that we should count points from two games, yes, but at every table separately! And we have situation that from my table nobody qualified for the final and from other tables accordingly 2 and 1 player.
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MrNumbers,
the best way is for you: play the next time your national championship with Carcassonne.
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MrNumbers,
the best way is for you: play the next time your national championship with Carcassonne.
I will definitely play in national Carcassonne championship in September this year! It's by default :D
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...What do you think? Is it fair format? ???
That does seem very odd. They could have technically taken 3 from one table. That does not seem to be very inclusive. That situation would have left me very frustrated. I can feel your pain >:(
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That isn't fair at all. I'm no expert in Ticket to Ride (have only played it a couple of times) but it seems fairly common than some games are simply lower-scoring than others so the fact that you won should definitely be taken into consideration ahead of what your winning score was. You had a 100% record of scoring more points than your opposition; how many points were won by players in others games is irrelevant. It should be anyway.
I wasn't there, but I've read that a couple of years ago the UK Carcassonne championship was played in the same way and the players with the highest combined scores across several games won a seat at the top table. Obviously this is ridiculous, and most of those who realised this played in a friendly way to generate and share as many points for themselves and their opponents as possible.
There was at least one person who played aggressively and won all of his games, but ranked very lowly because everyone else has been playing such high-scoring games.
I can see both sides of the argument, but my personal opinion is that competitions are supposed to be competitive and being competitive is all about winning...
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Today I participated in national Ticket to Ride championship. Some time ago I qualified for the finals, and here it is! We were 4, and all of my 3 opponents were familiar with each other - they are from one company, which plays TtR very often. We played 2 games - Europe and USA. I won the first one with 127 points, but lost the second with the same 127 points (winner had 138 points). In Europe I chose "more tickets" strategy, which paid off. In USA I took only 2 initial tickets (20+17 points) and tried to claim as many 15-points parts (consisted of 6 wagons) as possible.
Because of the format the summary of two games determined the winner and I had 254 points, and nearest opponent had 245 points total. That's the story - I am Latvian Ticket to Ride champion! 8) :D
For my win I received "Camel Up" board game, which I missed in my collection till today :)
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Wow! Congratulations MrNumbers! That is excellent and very exciting news. Will you go to the world championships now? If they take place in Essen we'll have to make a big banner with your name on!
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Congrats MrNumbers, well done!!! :(y)
TTR is a great game in its own right except my wife wins most the time :( I've encouraged her to get into a tournament, she is that good!
We still play regularly and I think we have all the expansion maps. I do better when I can get her onto a new board :)
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Congratulations MrNumbers!
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Gratulations to you MrNumbers.
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Thanks to everyone for congratulations! ^-^
Will you go to the world championships now? If they take place in Essen we'll have to make a big banner with your name on!
It would be cool, but, as far as I can find the information, TtR World championship was held only once, in 2014 in Paris, 10th anniversary year for this game.
So this was just national championship without being delegated anywhere further. But still it is very cool to be National Champion, regardless of the discipline :D
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Congratulations from me, too, Mr. Numbers.
I myself, by the way, suck at this game. Last time I played, I even managed getting a negative score from tickets total. :D
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Well done Mr Numbers it sounded like you picked the right strategies against the other players. Considering they knew each other too, you were probably at a major disadvantage but you tried different things each round to score points. It sounded like you used the scoring mechanism as an advantage too!
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Thank you, Hounk and Decar!
Yes, I played over 30 games with AI on both maps and after analyzing all my losses and AI wins, chose best strategy for each map. I knew I was at disadvantage but I think my opponents didn't take me seriously and that's why didn't block me specially. Maybe next time they will choose another strategy :)