Carcking,And here comes an example perhaps for your 1st question.(But it is a city - not a road - sorry)Quote1. If a player scores a castle is he eligible to collect any gold that is on the feature that triggered the castle score, even if not in the vicinity of the castle? Let's say gold exists on a relevant road on the 6th and 7th tiles away from the castle.(the just placed tile has a red line around)The castle scores 20 Points for the city.
1. If a player scores a castle is he eligible to collect any gold that is on the feature that triggered the castle score, even if not in the vicinity of the castle? Let's say gold exists on a relevant road on the 6th and 7th tiles away from the castle.
Is Red eligible to collect either of the gold in the lower right region outside of Blue's city? That is, since the owner of the castle is also scoring the feature (as a function of the castle) does that feature become part of the castle feature for purposes of collecting gold?
Quote from: Carcking on May 31, 2013, 12:57:19 PMIs Red eligible to collect either of the gold in the lower right region outside of Blue's city? That is, since the owner of the castle is also scoring the feature (as a function of the castle) does that feature become part of the castle feature for purposes of collecting gold?I would say - no. Theese two gold pieces are not on the 6 tiles from the castle.
It's a question of how the castle mechanic works. Does the castle grant a share of the ownership of the triggering feature to the owner of the castle? Or do the two remain completely independent?
Quote from: Carcking on May 31, 2013, 01:08:04 PMIt's a question of how the castle mechanic works. Does the castle grant a share of the ownership of the triggering feature to the owner of the castle? Or do the two remain completely independent?The scoring for the castle has nothing to do with the "ownership" of that feature. The castle gets points only for "how many points is that finished feature worth?". The castle score also for a finished feature that was not occupied by any follower. (see the picture "Burg und Goldmine2.jpg")
harvster - are these intended to be answers to the castle questions?
But now I have some questions for you both (and anyone else):Consider the situation where a piece of gold was placed on the first half of the city. Then the Red player completes it with another half city tile (a town) and turns it into a castle.(Note: the second gold piece was placed as a second gold on the topmost tile.)
Q1 - In the case of the previous picture (Blue completes city), what happens with the gold on the castle?
Quote from: harvster on June 01, 2013, 08:03:16 AMBut now I have some questions for you both (and anyone else):Consider the situation where a piece of gold was placed on the first half of the city. Then the Red player completes it with another half city tile (a town) and turns it into a castle.(Note: the second gold piece was placed as a second gold on the topmost tile.)The gold piece belongs to the whole tile not only to a feature like the half city segment.
havster, could you please tell me which of all the pictures is important for your example, then I am able to design a picture for your questions.
Quote from: harvster on June 01, 2013, 08:03:16 AMQ1 - In the case of the previous picture (Blue completes city), what happens with the gold on the castle?A gold piece can't be placed on the top of a castle, because the gold piece belongs to a tile (see above).
Q2 - This time what happens if it's the cloister that's completed first (where the cloister has a Green meeple )?(Note: the other cloister tiles do not have any gold on them and no other feature was completed by any of the cloister tiles.)
Thanks kettlefish - that's very nice work. You got the all pictures spot on, and for the second question I like how you created the two possible situations depending on who is the active player!
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