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Re: Bug report: Pig Herd bonus
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2015, 08:22:39 AM »
You're right, so since I&C & T&B are "possessed by" (=included in) JCZ, there really is no point, why the rules should not be applied.  8)

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Re: Bug report: Pig Herd bonus
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2015, 08:44:37 AM »
The Inn on the Lake is such a nice graphic addition to the game that it is understandable why they were tempted to slip one onto the river II

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Re: Bug report: Pig Herd bonus
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2015, 05:20:45 AM »
official rules for the river II:

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When you play without the corresponding expansions, the inn on the lake, the pig herd, and the volcano have no effect.

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The pig herd tile:
This bonus is in addition to the normal pig bonus for the Traders&Builders expansion.

This rule is also in the rules from the "Graf, König und Konsorten" 2007 - also in the rules for the "Müller Box" 2013 - HiG.
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Zman Games Rule (Count, King&Robber - 2013):
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This bonus is in addition to the bonus provided by the pig found in the Traders&Builers expansion
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If you are playing without the corresponding expansions, the inn and the volcano pictured on the following tiles are ignored

Here we don't have the pig herd (ZMG: pigsty) excluded...
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Hmm - I have to ask if someone has a newer rule from HiG.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2015, 05:31:54 AM by kettlefish »

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Re: Bug report: Pig Herd bonus
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2015, 12:28:49 PM »
I don't think that the pig heard tile is attached to any particular expansion though since there are only two, one in the River II and the other in GQ11.  Therefore, officially, I don't see how the River II pig herd should ever be inactive. 

Edit: I see now that it was written into the rules to only be included with T&B, but that rule doesn't make any more sense than RGG's original prohibition of the GQ11 tile.  I think Z-Man has it right and since they are the U.S. publisher now, it would make sense (at least in the U.S.) that their rule (or perhaps the implied ruling) should be official. 
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 09:04:53 AM by CKorfmann »
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Re: Bug report: Pig Herd bonus
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2015, 07:39:34 AM »
It might not make sense, but it is never the less the official rule by HiG. Actually, as a house rule, I would even make the inns from River II or B,C&B count, if not playing with I&C. (To be honest, all games I played on table had been with I&C yet.) Why not? The rules are easy enough, don't cause headache with other expansions, everybody is aware, what to do with this tiles. And they are not outbalanced, it there are only one or two of them in the game. ANd yes, I would also play with pig heard.


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