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Title: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 02, 2015, 06:52:20 AM
What better way to start the new year than with a brand new Carcassonne Central online tournament?!  :(y) ;D :(y)

It's free to enter and anyone with a PC/ Laptop/ Mac (i.e. anybody who can run JCloisterZone) can take part, regardless of skill level. Here are a few points on how it will work:
There will be more details to follow, but if you'd like to take part please register your interest by posting below. Closing date for entries is the end of next week (11th Jan) with a view to having the first games played at the start of the following week.

The exact duration of the competition will depend on the number of participants, but if you're likely to be away for any sustained period of time between 12th January and early February then please be mindful of this before entering!

Best regards, and good luck!

Dan  8)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 02, 2015, 06:52:37 AM
Me!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: jungleboy on January 02, 2015, 07:28:54 AM
I am most certainly in. :green-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Decar on January 02, 2015, 08:01:45 AM
Me three!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 02, 2015, 08:06:32 AM
Welcome on board guys!  :(y)

T & B is such a classic expansion that I'm really looking forward to getting this tournament up and running!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Paul on January 02, 2015, 08:52:23 AM
I am in, I have to. Got a score to settle, with literally everyone.  :P
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: quevy on January 02, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
I am there.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: MrNumbers on January 02, 2015, 10:48:06 AM
I am definitely in! :(y)
Have some comments about format, but I will leave them aside for the moment :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: SRBO on January 02, 2015, 11:05:22 AM
Im in !
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Andrew the Ambo on January 02, 2015, 12:18:39 PM
I am in.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Rosco on January 02, 2015, 01:45:41 PM
Do you need to ask? Of course I am in!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Hounk on January 03, 2015, 10:38:48 AM
I am a novice player and am located in Central European time zone. The first seems to be no problem (anyone [...] can take part, regardless of skill level), so if the second is OK too, I would like to join as well.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: farin on January 04, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
I am in. Thanks to danisthirty for notice me. I almost missed it.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: kettlefish on January 04, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Perhaps this topic has a better place in the forum section:

CarcCentral Carcassonne League (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?board=28.0)

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Sorry, I am not in, because I don't play online Carcassonne.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: jungleboy on January 04, 2015, 01:01:03 PM
I am a novice player and am located in Central European time zone. The first seems to be no problem (anyone [...] can take part, regardless of skill level), so if the second is OK too, I would like to join as well.

The second is definitely OK (and the first too, of course). For the most part we have two groups of players in these leagues regarding timezones: those in Europe and those in North America, so there will be plenty of others in your timezone or one hour ahead/behind.
 
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Jéré on January 04, 2015, 11:34:48 PM
I'm in :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 05, 2015, 02:15:27 AM
12 players so far! Thanks to everyone who has signed up; the deadline for new registrations is the end of this week!  8)

- danisthirty
- jungleboy
- Decar
- Yellow
- quevy
- MrNumbers
- SRBO
- Andrew the Ambo
- Rosco
- Hounk
- farin
- Jéré

Perhaps this topic has a better place in the forum section:

CarcCentral Carcassonne League (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?board=28.0)

Very true. I will move it there once the registration deadline has passed. The reason it is here is purely because this is the most read section of the forums and I don't want anybody who might have been interested in playing to have missed it.

Sorry, I am not in, because I don't play online Carcassonne.

That's a shame. I thought you were warming to the idea of playing using JCloisterZone?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Carcking on January 06, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
I am way IN! Glad I didn't miss this. I too have scores to settle in league play.  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: jungleboy on January 06, 2015, 01:26:31 PM
So we're at 13 now. I guess an optimum number would be 14 or 16?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Decar on January 06, 2015, 01:56:44 PM
I'll go in twice if necessary :p
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Yall on January 06, 2015, 02:07:16 PM
I made an account on these forums just to post in this thread.

I'd be up for doing an online tournament of Carcassonne! It would be my first time every playing "competively", so I'm not sure how well I'd do, but hey! Just playing is great fun as well :)

A few minor remarks I guess: I haven't played with JCloisterZone yet, so if anyone is kind enough to test out with me if I can get games running etc, that'd be awesome! I believe I can get my computer be a host as well. I'd love to just test a few games before starting this, just so I know I can actually PLAY, and so I know how the games on there work. (but I believe I can also test that vs an AI?)

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Decar on January 06, 2015, 02:12:01 PM
Welcome to the forum Yall, if you've downloade JCZ: 3.0.2 and have it running you can connect to my host on: carc.tehill.net on port 37447.  Should be online for the next hour.

EDIT: JCZ: 3.0.2  not 3.2.0.  PM me if you need help!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: jungleboy on January 06, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
I'll go in twice if necessary :p

 :(y)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: kettlefish on January 06, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
What is with the members from here:

Waiting List (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=936.0)

Did anyone contact these members?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Yall on January 06, 2015, 02:48:45 PM
After trying for a bit, it seems I cannot open the port to host games... on a brightside, I was able to join Decar's game, so I can atleast join others :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Decar on January 06, 2015, 02:51:20 PM
Glad it's half working!  No doubt it's firewall or port forwarding, it's a fiddle these days.  Hopefully the new JCZ will make this easier.  I Just wanted to let you know my hour got cut a little short :(

Hope you manage to get it working; I'm around tomorrow if you need some help.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 06, 2015, 03:33:58 PM
I am way IN! Glad I didn't miss this. I too have scores to settle in league play.  >:D

If there was a smiley for whistling and looking the other way I'd be using it right now!

I made an account on these forums just to post in this thread.

Welcome to the forums Yall! I hope that you enjoy your time here at Carcassonne Central and wish you all the best for the tournament!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: CarcinFool on January 07, 2015, 06:33:41 AM
I'm interested, but I've never used JCloister before -- does each game need to be played real-time in its entirety for this tourney?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 07, 2015, 07:46:03 AM
I'm interested, but I've never used JCloister before -- does each game need to be played real-time in its entirety for this tourney?

Hello CarcinFool, welcome to the forums!  :(y)

We use JCloisterZone because it allows people to connect and play Carcassonne across the internet. At present it is only possible to play in real-time so you'd need to set aside half an hour to an hour for each game and agree with your opponent on a mutually acceptable time for your match. The fact that few of us are in the same time zone is an unfortunate complication, although many of us are at least on the same continent! Generally most people are fairly flexible with regards to time but I will attempt to reduce potential time zone conflicts as much as possible when I arrange the groups.

Please let me know if you're still interested!  :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 07, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
What is with the members from here:

Waiting List (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=936.0)

Did anyone contact these members?

They have been messaged. Hopefully they will be able to join in...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: ny1050220 on January 07, 2015, 11:44:03 AM
I'm in! ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: CarcinFool on January 07, 2015, 01:17:10 PM
Ok thx for the reply. Unfortunately I'm probably not able to commit to the time required. Have a good tourney!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 08, 2015, 03:58:50 AM
I've had a few messages regarding various things that I haven't made clear so here are some clarifications:

- Games played will be synchronous (i.e. you and your opponent will both be sitting at a computer, playing each other in real time). Naturally we all prefer to play in person, but flying everyone around the world to play each other was deemed to be financially problematic so playing online is the next best thing.

- Individual competitors do not need to be able to host JCloisterZone games on their own computers. Farin (the author of JCloisterZone who is also taking part in the competition) is working on a dedicated host server which we will hopefully be able to use for future competitions and possibly even this one depending on how far along he is with it. But for the time being, if neither you nor your opponent can host then a third-party host will be arranged for you by your group administrator.

- Unlike the last league, there will be no “rounds” specifying who your next opponent should be. You need to play everyone in your group, but arranging those matches at a mutually agreeable time will be up to you so you can choose to face your fellow league members in whichever order you choose.

- Hopefully this won’t be the case, but if a game crashes and cannot be continued, the host of the game should attempt to save it, quit and restart JCloisterZone, load the saved game and then let the other player connect. Please repeat this if the first attempt fails to reload the game, before contacting your group administrator if the second attempt also fails. In the event that the game crashes at quite an early stage or no clear winner has been established, you may also restart your game if it can’t be reloaded as long as both players are in agreement over this.

- If anybody drops out of the competition, the results of all games played against that person will be removed from the overall standings. This could be bad news for you if it robs you of a good win, or good news if it removes all trace of a bad loss, but ultimately it’s bad news for the competition as a whole as we want everyone to stay in until the end.

- Traders & Builders may seem like a strange choice since this is the first of the 2015 “Expansion League” series and T & B is the 2nd large expansion. However, Inns & Cathedrals was used extensively (in the group stage) of last year’s World Cup of Carcassonne Central, hence why I chose to start this year with Traders & Builders.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 08, 2015, 03:59:31 AM
I'm in! ;D

 :)

Ok thx for the reply. Unfortunately I'm probably not able to commit to the time required. Have a good tourney!

 :( maybe next time...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: jungleboy on January 10, 2015, 10:30:15 AM
Bumping this thread. Tomorrow is the last day to register for the league!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 12, 2015, 04:12:31 AM
This topic is now locked!

The following members are taking part:

- danisthirty
- jungleboy
- Decar
- Yellow
- quevy
- MrNumbers
- SRBO
- Andrew the Ambo
- Rosco
- Hounk
- farin
- Jéré
- Carcking
- B1nder
- Yall
- ny1050220
- zone2

I will create a new post within the CarcCentral Caracassonne League/ Carcassonne Central League forum (and probably rename it too) with details of groups and officially start the tournament. This will be within the next couple of days so stay tuned!  :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Paul on January 12, 2015, 05:45:28 AM
Gentlemen... Start your engine (engine in computer terms means a system, i.e. a computer or a TV game console).

 :meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Carcking on January 12, 2015, 11:52:30 AM
Is there an odd number of players then?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 12, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
Is there an odd number of players then?

Looks like it. Trying to find an 18th player just to make the two groups even...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 13, 2015, 05:50:05 AM
Hello again.

This topic has now been unlocked as we only have 17 players and it's proving difficult to arrange the groups evenly with an odd number of players.  ::)

So, if you haven't signed up yet but would be interested in playing a few (9) games of Carcassonne against your fellow forum members over the next 3 or 4 weeks then please sign up by posting a reply in this thread. As long as you've got a PC or a Mac you should be able to install Java and run JCloisterZone. It doesn't cost anything, and it's lots of fun. Do it.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Hounk on January 13, 2015, 06:18:15 AM
Won't want to discourage an 18th player, would be great, if one is showing up. But in case not, would it be such a big problem, if we would play in two groups, one with 8, one with 9 players? The last one in the bigger group (who could likely be me) would get at least 8 games out of the tournament, the others could then proceed with an 1/8 final (first of one group against eight of the other) and so on, or the first four of each group go straight to the quarterfinal, the places 9, 11, 13 and 15 are done by games of equal places in the two groups. Just a suggestion, how different rounds of the league could be handled more or less equal, no matter how many players attend the round.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 13, 2015, 06:27:43 AM
Won't want to discourage an 18th player, would be great, if one is showing up. But in case not, would it be such a big problem, if we would play in two groups, one with 8, one with 9 players? The last one in the bigger group (who could likely be me) would get at least 8 games out of the tournament, the others could then proceed with an 1/8 final (first of one group against eight of the other) and so on, or the first four of each group go straight to the quarterfinal, the places 9, 11, 13 and 15 are done by games of equal places in the two groups. Just a suggestion, how different rounds of the league could be handled more or less equal, no matter how many players attend the round.

Yes this is all true and will likely be applied once everyone has played against everyone else (exact details are currently being discussed). It just seems a shame that a single player should be eliminated from any additional play if it could otherwise have been avoided.

If there are no responses by tomorrow morning (my time) then we will proceed with 17.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Leven on January 13, 2015, 04:13:07 PM
I just can't help joining in. I have not much spare-time these days but never mind. I'm in!  :D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: Decar on January 14, 2015, 12:09:04 AM
Great news Leven! We appreciate the time you're investing;  I'll make sure every move I play is calculated if/when we play  O:-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 14, 2015, 01:15:37 AM
Welcome on board Leven! Thanks for taking part...  :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central Expansion League #1: Traders & Builders
Post by: danisthirty on January 14, 2015, 03:03:07 AM
The League is now live! (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1452)  :(y)