The Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?
[192.] "You can place a wagon in a castle when converting a completed small city into a castle. There is no written rule or clarification stating that after scoring the castle you may move the wagon to an adjacent unoccupied feature.So far we can assume the wagon will score the castle and the player will remove it.You may define a house rule to move it to any unoccupied feature in the castle fief but, this is not official", but "Exp. 8 - Bridges, Castles and Bazaars: If you place your ringmaster on a castle, you score its ringmaster points considering the 6 tiles in the castle fief."
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[193.] Does an incomplete cloister occupied by an abbot is scored, does abbot goes to a free bathhouse ?
I think no, because in this case the abbot is scored in step. 2, and the placing of a meeple on a bathhouse happens in step 3.
[194.] The Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:37:48 AMThe Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?We were playing this way that this is different meeple scored in this turn, so in current run scored and more than one meeple, so no-one goes to bathhouse.
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:37:48 AM[194.] The Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?Quote from: stano.lacko on April 11, 2020, 11:31:37 AMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:37:48 AMThe Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?We were playing this way that this is different meeple scored in this turn, so in current run scored and more than one meeple, so no-one goes to bathhouse.Message 8 applies scoring after the the game, where no bathhouse scoring or actions are applied (it affects completed features with one meeple only). This said, Message 8 should not apply anything related to bathhouses in the scoring taking place.
Quote from: Meepledrone on April 12, 2020, 05:13:46 AMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:37:48 AM[194.] The Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?Quote from: stano.lacko on April 11, 2020, 11:31:37 AMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:37:48 AMThe Barber-Surgeons: What happens if you score a meeple with the message 8?We were playing this way that this is different meeple scored in this turn, so in current run scored and more than one meeple, so no-one goes to bathhouse.Message 8 applies scoring after the the game, where no bathhouse scoring or actions are applied (it affects completed features with one meeple only). This said, Message 8 should not apply anything related to bathhouses in the scoring taking place.I don't know. Maybe we are plaing Message 8 wrong, but in rules is written:( 8 ) Score a Meeple and Return it to your Supply: Choose one of your meeples in the play area. If you have the majority in the feature where this meeple is, score the area as you would at the end of the game but only you get points. Then return only your meeple that was on the feature back to your supply, even if it didn't score any points.That Meeple is scored by end game scoring rules (Message 8 ), it dosn't mean, that it can't go to bathhouse.Rules for Barger-Surgeons are:If there is only one Meeple involved in scoring a feature and if there is at least one free bathhouse, instead of returning the Meeple to your hand, you must place your Meeple sideways in (any) one of the free bathhouses (or in the only free bathhouse) immediately after the scoring. You score the feature as usual before doing so.Question is, what means this rule by "scoring a feature". If it's only finishing Road / City / Monastery / Garden (what ever else) by rules scoring during a game, in this case. Meepledrone is right. If it's not so strict, than Meeple can go to bathhouse.
After scoring the small city, you place your Meeple in the bathhouse.
If there are several features scored (by placing one single land tile) you have to consider the order in which the features are scored - the player who placed the land tile decides the order in which the scoring is carried out, as this may affect which meeples are placed in free bathhouses (if applicable).
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:34:13 AM(193.) I think no, because in this case the abbot is scored in step. 2, and the placing of a meeple on a bathhouse happens in step 3.You are scoring a feature, so I guess, meeple goes to Bathhouse.
(193.) I think no, because in this case the abbot is scored in step. 2, and the placing of a meeple on a bathhouse happens in step 3.
[195.] Do you receive 3 points for fairy if you use message 1, 2 or 3?
Quote from: stano.lacko on April 12, 2020, 09:02:01 AMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on April 11, 2020, 06:34:13 AM(193.) I think no, because in this case the abbot is scored in step. 2, and the placing of a meeple on a bathhouse happens in step 3.You are scoring a feature, so I guess, meeple goes to Bathhouse.Allow me to disagree if you please. You are scoring a figure, the abbot, that happens to score in phase 2. Placing a meeple as an incomplete monastic building or garden at the end of the game without any possible bonus from phase 3. Scoring a feature. So these bonuses may not be applied:* Monastic buildings with an abbot as a monk: no vineyards, Darmstadt church bonus, teacher bonus, Bookbinders bonus (Markets of Leipzig) or 3-point fairy scoring bonus,can be applied, for example.* Gardens: no fairy bonus can be applied, for example.
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on April 12, 2020, 05:25:31 AM[195.] Do you receive 3 points for fairy if you use message 1, 2 or 3?Yes, you may get the 3-point fairy scoring bonus when resolving Messages 1, 2 and 3. These three messages let you pick an incomplete feature with one of your meeples so you score it as if after the game. You have to choose the feature worth the fewest points. The rules for the 3-point fairy bonus indicate it applies to a meeple (with the fairy next to it) placed on a feature being scored, no matter if the meeple has the majority. This means the meeple receiving the bonus may be on:* A complete feature scored during the game in phase 3. Scoring a feature (roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) * An incomplete feature scored after the game (roads, cities, monastic buildings, fields,...) So, in our case, when scoring a feature when resolving messages 1, 2 or 3, that is, scoring it as if after the game, a meeple on it next to the fairy would get the 3-point fairy scoring bonus.You can review the rules here:* Messages 1, 2 and 3: http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Messages#The_Messages_Tiles* The 3-point scoring fairy bonus: http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Princess_and_The_Dragon#3._Scoring_a_feature_5
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