Rather odd. Increased prices often mean new components. Kettlefish, are you hiding something? Hmmm?
I rather suspect it's Hills & Sheep and River I (new edition) with the base game. They seem to be on a Hills & Sheep kick right now.
Well, there is a new edition coming in The Netherlands as well, which will include the German Monasteries Promo.Hi Khonnor,
So, maybe that will be it for other countries as well?
that is an interesting information.
Do you have a link to the new from the Netherlands?
Yes, sure...here it is on bol.com
It has just become available, for 31 euros!
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/spel-carcassonne-mini-uitbreiding-kloosters-bordspel/9200000027680037/
And for what it's worth, I think it is the Monasteries in Germany. If this were a brand new set of Dutch cloisters, that would be a pretty exciting development for the Dutch market and I think they would heavily promote the Dutch aspect of the cloisters on the front of the box.
as well as a completely new mini expansion together in a box.Well, I guess "told you so" is in order.
I never trust that terminology until I see it. It could just mean completely new to the public, which The Monasteries would be, brief preview release not withstanding.
I never trust that terminology until I see it. It could just mean completely new to the public, which The Monasteries would be, brief preview release not withstanding.Again - I hope you are right and that I am wrong.
die neue Mini-Erweiterung DER ABT
Quotedie neue Mini-Erweiterung DER ABT
:o :o :o
Quotedie neue Mini-Erweiterung DER ABT
:o :o :o
The figures are in wood - no plastic.
The graphic is new.
?? I don't know. All what I know is that there are more details on the landscape tiles.The figures are in wood - no plastic.
The graphic is new.
you think higher resolution? or completely new graphics, in such way it cant combine?
Bollocks.I never trust that terminology until I see it. It could just mean completely new to the public, which The Monasteries would be, brief preview release not withstanding.Again - I hope you are right and that I am wrong.
Quotedie neue Mini-Erweiterung DER ABT
:o :o :o
German: Der Abt
English: The Abbot
Quotedie neue Mini-Erweiterung DER ABT
:o :o :o
German: Der Abt
English: The Abbot
So is this a new type of follower?? Only to be played on the German Monastery?
I expect the"Abt / abbot" figure is used on regular cloisters to convert them into a German cloister and everyone gets 1 figure.
at www.spieleoffensive.de (http://www.spieleoffensive.de) is a picture
Carcassonne Edition II (http://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Edition-II-1015616.html)
It reminds me of the Gingerbread Man. Could it just be a straight up conversion?
What are the rules for the gingerbread man again? I haven't played it yet.
If a player draws a landscape tile with the gingerbread man
symbol, he or she places the tile using the normal rules and performs a normal turn. He or
she then takes the Gingerbread Man and puts it into another unfinished city.
Gingerbread Man scoring
1) When the Gingerbread Man leaves a city (by placement of another gingerbread man
tile), all players who have one or more knights in this city will receive points. For each of
his or her knights in this city, each player receives 1 point per tile that is a part of the city
at this moment. Pennants score no points. The knights remain in this city.
2) If a player completes a city with the Gingerbread Man, here is what happens: Before
the normal scoring is performed, all players who have one or more knights in this city will
receive points. For each of his or her knights in this city, each player receives 1 point per
tile that is a part of the city. After that, the player who completed the city places the
Gingerbread Man into an unfinished city of his or her choice.
Special case: If there is no other unfinished city when the Gingerbread Man must be
moved, it stays in the city in which it is located. If this city is completed, it is placed next
to the game board and can be brought back into the game by playing a tile with the
gingerbread man icon.
The Abbots as they current are used (with German Monasteries) are powerful since a single player could claim multiple German Monasteries. If normal cloisters are used with Abbots being used to claim them, then each player can only have, at most, one Abbot. And since they stay on the board until the end of the game, players would never have more than one cloister scored in the manner of a German Monastery.
The Abbots as they current are used (with German Monasteries) are powerful since a single player could claim multiple German Monasteries. If normal cloisters are used with Abbots being used to claim them, then each player can only have, at most, one Abbot. And since they stay on the board until the end of the game, players would never have more than one cloister scored in the manner of a German Monastery.
From what I have read from players who have used the abbot, even one abbot can score too many points especially for placing a single follower on a single feature
Here is the link to CarcF:I'm not questioning the number of tiles. All three Rivers have 12 tiles. I'm wondering if the River tiles show the new features included with the Big Box 5 River.
Carcassonne (neue Edition) (http://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=1928)
-----------------------------
The river has 12 landscape tiles (this information is from HiG by call)
I know whaleyland, but this was my question to Dirk Geilenkeuser at HiG yesterday by call.The river has 12 landscape tiles (this information is from HiG by call)I'm not questioning the number of tiles. All three Rivers have 12 tiles. I'm wondering if the River tiles show the new features included with the Big Box 5 River.
With HiG mixing general release mini-expansions, limited release stuff , new river mini-expansions bundled with the base game and out of print larger expansions bundled with the big box , add in two new colours of meeples and now adding a new abbot meeple if you buy new copies of the game, well it all just seems a little bit too much merchandise for too little product.Yes. They keep spitting their old fans in the face with crap like this.
The Abbot is a completely new not yet published mini. This mini has nothing to do with the German Monasteries.Of course not. All according to their policy towards their old fans.
Kettlefish has been nice being able to get some of these for us, but that doesn't fix the bigger problem. I see very little value in adding new expansions to base games when the audience for those games are new players to begin with. Changing the cover I understand but the components should remain static. Add The River, for all I care, but keep it to that. Kinda getting annoyed, to be honest.
Here is the link to HiG:
Carcassonne II (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/newsdetails/news/carcassonne_ii/)
My understanding is that there are licensing problems with many of the Spielbox expansions, certainly the older ones, which would make reprinting them tricky from a legal point of view.
My understanding is that there are licensing problems with many of the Spielbox expansions, certainly the older ones, which would make reprinting them tricky from a legal point of view. If it was worth it financially then I’m sure a solution could be found but I think the number of fans seeking the rare and hard to find expansions is probably relatively small compared to how many sales they could expect from some new and never seen before expansion even if it isn’t all that good.
I don’t necessarily condone it but I imagine that HiG are probably in the same boat. Whilst I’m sure they’d never set out to deliberately alienate/ frustrate those who most enjoy and support the games they’re responsible for (why would they do this?) it probably makes most sense for them as a business to focus on attracting new players. And if this means enticing them with some unique special edition then so be it.
I don’t necessarily condone it but I imagine that HiG are probably in the same boat. Whilst I’m sure they’d never set out to deliberately alienate/ frustrate those who most enjoy and support the games they’re responsible for (why would they do this?) it probably makes most sense for them as a business to focus on attracting new players. And if this means enticing them with some unique special edition then so be it.
Here is the link to HiG homepage - news:
HiG - news - Carcassonne II (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/newsdetails/news/carcassonne_ii/)
Link to HiG facebook:
HiG - facebook - Carcassonne II (https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/photos/a.281965897298.141444.237314407298/10152672172632299/?type=1&theater)
My understanding is that there are licensing problems with many of the Spielbox expansions, certainly the older ones, which would make reprinting them tricky from a legal point of view.
If Microsoft can agree with Apple to get it's office products working on a MAC and ITunes on a PC then I am sure that they could work something out.
Here is the link to HiG homepage - news:
HiG - news - Carcassonne II (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/newsdetails/news/carcassonne_ii/)
Link to HiG facebook:
HiG - facebook - Carcassonne II (https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/photos/a.281965897298.141444.237314407298/10152672172632299/?type=1&theater)
Google translate produces a lovely phrase in the english translation
we have revised the rule to allow everyone a liquid entry
Here is the link to HiG homepage - news:
HiG - news - Carcassonne II (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/newsdetails/news/carcassonne_ii/)
Link to HiG facebook:
HiG - facebook - Carcassonne II (https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/photos/a.281965897298.141444.237314407298/10152672172632299/?type=1&theater)
Google translate produces a lovely phrase in the english translation
we have revised the rule to allow everyone a liquid entry
Here is the link to HiG homepage - news:
HiG - news - Carcassonne II (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/newsdetails/news/carcassonne_ii/)
Link to HiG facebook:
HiG - facebook - Carcassonne II (https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/photos/a.281965897298.141444.237314407298/10152672172632299/?type=1&theater)
Google translate produces a lovely phrase in the english translation
we have revised the rule to allow everyone a liquid entry
that should be an easy start, literally a "fluent entry" like in the phrase "in fluent english"
I don't think they are trying to deliberately upset anyone but it kind of looks like they are “running on empty”
Am I the only one really NOT liking this idea of a total new set of carc?
The graphics are so different and ugly in my opinion.. i wont buy or mix them with my carccollection
Am I the only one really NOT liking this idea of a total new set of carc?
The graphics are so different and ugly in my opinion.. i wont buy or mix them with my carccollection
Based on the couple of pictures I've seen (not up close), I completely agree with you. I find the graphics of the original so beautiful which is a huge part of the attraction of the game for me. The simplicity and rustic quality of the original seems completely gone in this new version. But I'd like to see more pictures.
The artwork has simply been updated and modernized.
Am I the only one really NOT liking this idea of a total new set of carc?
The graphics are so different and ugly in my opinion.. i wont buy or mix them with my carccollection
Based on the couple of pictures I've seen (not up close), I completely agree with you. I find the graphics of the original so beautiful which is a huge part of the attraction of the game for me. The simplicity and rustic quality of the original seems completely gone in this new version. But I'd like to see more pictures.
Thanks,
Im also terrified of the idea new expansions only come out in new graphics..
Am I the only one really NOT liking this idea of a total new set of carc?
The graphics are so different and ugly in my opinion.. i wont buy or mix them with my carccollection
Anne Pätzke did the graphics for the beautiful Carcassonne Winter-Edition
I saw this too. No idea what it means! Maybe it means you can place followers on the river? :D
Link to ZMG:
Carcassonne enters a new era! (http://zmangames.com/nouvelles-details.php?id=449)
graphic artists:
Cover: Chris Quilliams
landscape tiles: Anne Pätzke
Anne Pätzke did the graphics for the beautiful Carcassonne Winter-Edition
I really hope the Abott is not The Missionary. :-\Hi CKorfmann,
Google translate produces a lovely phrase in the english translation
we have revised the rule to allow everyone a liquid entry
I really hope the Abott is not The Missionary. :-\Hi CKorfmann,
I've checked the rules from your fan-made expansion "The Missionary" with the mini "The Abbot".
The Abbot has nothing to do with the Missionary.
kettlefish, you mean to say you know what The Abbot is about? You know the rules?;D
What about the potential for confusion with the Abbot of the German Monastery?The normal follower has a role as an abbot placed on the German Monastery.
kettlefish, you mean to say you know what The Abbot is about? You know the rules?;DWhat about the potential for confusion with the Abbot of the German Monastery?The normal follower has a role as an abbot placed on the German Monastery.
The new figure Abbot looks quite different than a typical Meeple.
I hear the Abbot meeple is the first of two new ones to be introduced, the second one will be name Costello :@
see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_and_Costello
Lots of negativity in here...
It's like trying to decide between pizza and ice cream: I want both.
I think the new artwork is beautiful...
I was happy to buy the winter edition (just a couple of weeks ago) as I saw it as a free standing, basic version of the game. I normally play with my son and we take the game seriously but I thought the winter version would be great to get out at xmas to play a basic seasonal game with the whole family.I like the Winter edition too. In fact, I've just ordered the following to make it feel even more festive this year:
But at the end of the day, I'm still a fan and will buy this new edition for my collection. I may not understand the rationale behind their decision, but getting mad about it doesn't help anything.
All this is only part of the problem with this new edition. The other problem is that this new edition includes a new mini expansion not available anywhere else, at least for now anyways. I, like everyone else here, am not a fan of this sort of move. I'd really like to add the Wheel of Fortune to my collection but I certainly do not want to purchase the Big Box 5 just to be able to do so. In instances like this I look the world of phones and tablets. Whether you are an Android fan or an iOS fan you can find Carcassonne on either platform. As I am an iOS man myself I'll use the iOS app for my example.
Wheel of fortune is available in some countrys
Wheel of fortune is available in some countrys
You're right, and call me weird, but I kinda prefer to have everything under one publisher if I can.
Wheel of fortune is available in some countrys
You're right, and call me weird, but I kinda prefer to have everything under one publisher if I can.
Yeah, I mostly stuck to Rio Grande for everything until Z-Man took over. I've got plenty of Hans im Glück items, though, since so much wasn't released by RGG. Unless ZMG releases something unique, I'll probably stick with HiG for everything now. I only use the CAR for rules anyway, so translations are never a problem. My Hills & Sheep are HiG and my Minis are RGG.Wheel of fortune is available in some countrys
You're right, and call me weird, but I kinda prefer to have everything under one publisher if I can.
Like collecting everything regardless of publisher isn't difficult enough already! Well done for going the extra mile! :D
...Hi whaleyland,
It could be that Carcassonne 2.0 is really just a one time special edition to try to market to new customers. This isn't unprecedented. Granted, it could also be an entire reboot of the series, where previous expansions will be released in entirely new orders or organized in completely new ways.
kettlefish, any hints to the long-term plans regarding these new graphics?
kettlefish, I'd appreciate any new insights on this new version that you can discover, as I'm sure many of the rest of us would. I think many of us want to know if this is a one-off thing or if all future expansions are going to be with the new graphics....Hi whaleyland,
It could be that Carcassonne 2.0 is really just a one time special edition to try to market to new customers. This isn't unprecedented. Granted, it could also be an entire reboot of the series, where previous expansions will be released in entirely new orders or organized in completely new ways.
kettlefish, any hints to the long-term plans regarding these new graphics?
I am not sure if I like to ask HiG this.
Will still more extensions be available for the old Carcassonne games?...
Hi..., that is not yet 100% clear.
Random follow-up. Is the Cundco version of Half-and-Half with the new or old art? We know the Spielbox version is the old art.The CundCo version is definitly in the old art.
:(y) :(y) :(y) :(y) :(y)Random follow-up. Is the Cundco version of Half-and-Half with the new or old art? We know the Spielbox version is the old art.The CundCo version is definitly in the old art.
If I was a cynical person (perish the thought) I would suspect that the new big box with the Wheel of Fortune was a ploy to empty out their stock of original style tiles to make room for the new style ones in their warehouse.
Carcassonne, Pieza de Inicio - facebook:
Combination of Carcassonne new and old (https://www.facebook.com/556565331020918/photos/a.556928537651264.132206.556565331020918/856718487672266/?type=1&theater)
He has created an interesting combination of Carcassonne (our beloved graphics) and Carcassonne Edition II (new graphics).
He has created an interesting combination of Carcassonne (our beloved graphics) and Carcassonne Edition II (new graphics).
Unfortunately I can't agree with you there yellow - I think it looks terrible.
I guess it depends on how pedantic you are about these sorts of things (and I am quite pedantic about it). Things like the different shading in the Cathars tiles, the darker green fields in the Plague etc already bug me. So, personally, there's no way I could handle mixing old and new Carcassonne artwork.
I'm sorry to hear that. There's a lot of negativity in the forum about this new edition. It's like the end of the world or something. I feel like many members are just set to neglect any changes at all, instead of embracing a new world.The negativity is party from the new look. Personally I do not really care - I would not mix different sets of Carcassonne anyway. The other part is the exclusive expansion that they - again - only make available to those who - yet again - buy what they already own.
Unfortunately I can't agree with you there yellow - I think it looks terrible.
I guess it depends on how pedantic you are about these sorts of things (and I am quite pedantic about it). Things like the different shading in the Cathars tiles, the darker green fields in the Plague etc already bug me. So, personally, there's no way I could handle mixing old and new Carcassonne artwork.
I'm sorry to hear that. There's a lot of negativity in the forum about this new edition. It's like the end of the world or something. I feel like many members are just set to neglect any changes at all, instead of embracing a new world.
If anything, the 'River III' exclusive in Big Box 5 is far more concerning if it's meant to be only in this box alone.Yes, that is another straw on the camel's back. How many does it carry around now?
If anything, the 'River III' exclusive in Big Box 5 is far more concerning if it's meant to be only in this box alone.Yes, that is another straw on the camel's back. How many does it carry around now?
yes, but it is only the last one on the camel's back that HiG has to worry about :)The last one is one too late.
It seems to me that the majority of the negativity surrounding this new edition stems from "the fear of the unknown"...
Still, though, after reading the latest posts, I can't see why everyone is upset.
Either buy it or don't...
...If anything, the 'River III' exclusive in Big Box 5 is far more concerning if it's meant to be only in this box alone.
Instead of bashing the companies because of a decision they thought was appropriate, we should at least withhold and let it be revealed in full bloom.
As some of the previous posts already noted: We know so little. That is just part of how a company releases a product. To keep us guessing and hopefully be intrigued.
Guess what? I'm not intrigued, I'm fed up with corporate bull***t. I have enough other ways to spend my time and money that don't have Carcassonne in the title.
There is nothing corporate about this.
Hams Im Gluck is a tiny company. I'm guessing your local coffee shop employs more people than Hams Im Gluck.
They're not a corporation. They're some people trying to make games, and make a living at it.
... I don't know what the reaction is like over at CarcF but it seems to be heavily against the new art here...The reaction is almost the same at CarcF.
I like the graphics from Anne Pätzke what she did for the Carcassonne Winter-Edition.I do, too. In fact, I really want to pick that game up someday. But that doesn't mean I want the graphics of the base game changed.
I like the graphics from Anne Pätzke what she did for the Carcassonne Winter-Edition.I do, too. In fact, I really want to pick that game up someday. But that doesn't mean I want the graphics of the base game changed.
I think it's just ridiculous to call them a corporation.Even so, one can still be tired of their bullshit.
That's my only (main) point.
I think it's just ridiculous to call them a corporation.
That's my only (main) point.
One answer in the german HiG-facebook raised my suspicion that the new Abbott has something to do with the red roofs, too. Maybe you can place the Abbot and you count the red roofs around him (9 tiles or even 25 tiles).
I understand the new Abbot could not be used with the "old" Carcassonne-graphic, only with the new graphic according to the rule book.
Here's a geeklist displaying all different art styles of Carcassonne since the beginning:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/179146/item/3443883#item3443883
...and comments about new edition are mostly negative there too... (Interestingly, this has been retweeted by Hans im Glück)
Thanks for the heads up - I will get right over to the Z-man facebook page and start complaining there :@
Getting back to the topic at hand (complaining about 2.0! :green-meeple:) ... the comments on the Facebook page of the French publisher filosofia are almost all positive. People seem to like the artwork and only one person really raised the kinds of issues that we are raising here.
Keep in mind that an admin of a fb page can easily delete some negative comments, especially if they are not constructive. If someone writes that "this new edition stinks and I hate it"... Well I don't think it's going to stay very long on the official page of the publisher. To really gauge the reaction of the people I'd stick with this forum, the german one as well as BGG.
A few minutes ago Moritz Brunnhofer (from Hans im Glück) posted a long comment in the german forum CarcF.Thanks Benny, I think Moritz will answer here directly too.
In the post he explained the reasons for the new edition with some good examples of the new tiles.
http://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=1928&p=18534#p18534
I'm sorry, it's in german. Perhaps I could manage it to translate it or make a summary during the next day (german time MWSZ ;))
I think the new tiles look really good! Excited about this new edition. #UnpopularOpinion
Could it be that they're introducing a hand of tiles as an official rule so that new players have more options when placing tiles?
No hand of tiles.Could it be that they're introducing a hand of tiles as an official rule so that new players have more options when placing tiles?
I hope not. I don't like the hand of tiles option myself.
I just read through Mortiz's post on CarcF. I wasn't able to understand everything, but I think I got 90% of it. In the Big Box thread I said I would never buy a Big Box, but now that I'm thinking more about the new artwork, I would be interested to buy a Big Box version with all new artwork.
I don't think we should be stressing out about things which are not firmly decided yet. However, I do think it's valid for us to express our concerns about the future of our favorite game. Even better would be a collaborative discussion between ourselves and the publishers. I see an opportunity to do some things differently with this new era of Carcassonne than what happened in the past. Maybe this time around, Spielbox won't get exclusive expansions that the other publishers can't sell. Maybe this time around there won't be a Catapult.
As with any work of art, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like both the old art style as well as the new art style. Of course, my preference is for the old art style because I've been living with it for the past decade, but if the new art style will help the game remain popular for the next generation of gamers, then I'm supportive of it.
I think I'd prefer a retheme of the Catapult to be something like "The Travellers" or something suggestive of Gypsies/Roma. That would emphasize the tent aspect of the fair tiles rather than the catapult. The various tokens also need a repurposing. I still don't like the current alternate rules. Perhaps simply trying to toss the tiles onto the board would work.I just read through Mortiz's post on CarcF. I wasn't able to understand everything, but I think I got 90% of it. In the Big Box thread I said I would never buy a Big Box, but now that I'm thinking more about the new artwork, I would be interested to buy a Big Box version with all new artwork.
I don't think we should be stressing out about things which are not firmly decided yet. However, I do think it's valid for us to express our concerns about the future of our favorite game. Even better would be a collaborative discussion between ourselves and the publishers. I see an opportunity to do some things differently with this new era of Carcassonne than what happened in the past. Maybe this time around, Spielbox won't get exclusive expansions that the other publishers can't sell. Maybe this time around there won't be a Catapult.
As with any work of art, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like both the old art style as well as the new art style. Of course, my preference is for the old art style because I've been living with it for the past decade, but if the new art style will help the game remain popular for the next generation of gamers, then I'm supportive of it.
I don't mind the re-release of the Catapult. Just leave out the wooden catapult, all those tokens, put in a few more tiles and some new rules. ;)
I think I'd prefer a retheme of the Catapult to be something like "The Travellers" or something suggestive of Gypsies/Roma. That would emphasize the tent aspect of the fair tiles rather than the catapult. The various tokens also need a repurposing. I still don't like the current alternate rules. Perhaps simply trying to toss the tiles onto the board would work.I just read through Mortiz's post on CarcF. I wasn't able to understand everything, but I think I got 90% of it. In the Big Box thread I said I would never buy a Big Box, but now that I'm thinking more about the new artwork, I would be interested to buy a Big Box version with all new artwork.
I don't think we should be stressing out about things which are not firmly decided yet. However, I do think it's valid for us to express our concerns about the future of our favorite game. Even better would be a collaborative discussion between ourselves and the publishers. I see an opportunity to do some things differently with this new era of Carcassonne than what happened in the past. Maybe this time around, Spielbox won't get exclusive expansions that the other publishers can't sell. Maybe this time around there won't be a Catapult.
As with any work of art, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like both the old art style as well as the new art style. Of course, my preference is for the old art style because I've been living with it for the past decade, but if the new art style will help the game remain popular for the next generation of gamers, then I'm supportive of it.
I don't mind the re-release of the Catapult. Just leave out the wooden catapult, all those tokens, put in a few more tiles and some new rules. ;)
Moritz Brunnhofer from HiG will answer himself here at CarcC.Has there been enough time to "translate it in the correct form" yet? Or are they just ignoring us as usual?
But he need some time to translate it in the correct form.
Please wait.
You can place the Abbot on a cloister or a garden.I hope these figures release separately because I'd totally buy them just to use with the cloisters. In games with expansions, there are enough cloisters for this to work. Perhaps use the vineyards as gardens also.
If you don't place a follower on a tile, you can take back the Abbot.
Score 9 points if the cloister or garden with the abbot is surrounded with 8 tiles or - if you took him back without completing - as many points as there are surrounding tiles + 1.
You can place the Abbot on a cloister or a garden.I hope these figures release separately because I'd totally buy them just to use with the cloisters. In games with expansions, there are enough cloisters for this to work. Perhaps use the vineyards as gardens also.
If you don't place a follower on a tile, you can take back the Abbot.
Score 9 points if the cloister or garden with the abbot is surrounded with 8 tiles or - if you took him back without completing - as many points as there are surrounding tiles + 1.
I hope these figures release separately because I'd totally buy them just to use with the cloisters. In games with expansions, there are enough cloisters for this to work. Perhaps use the vineyards as gardens also.
I've come to the conclusion that I'm glad that there is a new addition that is different. That means that the end is in sight and I can stop when the first edition is done.
I can't read German but I couldn't see any diagrams showing farmers in the rules. Are they getting rid of farmers?They have the farmers in the final scoring, pointing to the next pages. On the "Beiblatt" there are the farmer rules, the river and the new abbot mini expansion. Feels like the farmers are an expansion ...
I can't read German but I couldn't see any diagrams showing farmers in the rules. Are they getting rid of farmers?They have the farmers in the final scoring, pointing to the next pages. On the "Beiblatt" there are the farmer rules, the river and the new abbot mini expansion. Feels like the farmers are an expansion ...
I recall someone mentioning that they'd make like a basic set of rules where farms are not included and then making an advanced version with farms. This way people new to the game would have it easier to get the handle of it, and once they know how to play, they add farms into the mix. Though I'm not 100% sure where I read this.
I recall someone mentioning that they'd make like a basic set of rules where farms are not included and then making an advanced version with farms. This way people new to the game would have it easier to get the handle of it, and once they know how to play, they add farms into the mix. Though I'm not 100% sure where I read this.
Seems like a good idea. Whenever I'm playing Carcassonne with anyone who hasn't already played it it's often a lot easier to leave them out at first, then introduce them after a couple of games.
Moritz Brunnhofer from HiG will answer himself here at CarcC.Six weeks and counting.
But he need some time to translate it in the correct form.
Please wait.
The front of the tiles has a different style, but as you can see on these pictures, the mix of “old” and “new” is 100% playable.
My biggest problem with the new edition has always been the incompatibility of the new and old tiles and the fact that the publishers didn't seem to recognise this or realise that it would be an issue for many people. And that has continued with this statement:QuoteThe front of the tiles has a different style, but as you can see on these pictures, the mix of “old” and “new” is 100% playable.
I would say it is far less than 100% playable.
What strikes me odd is people never had trouble with the various releases before.
Oh, my... Do the black meeples have a face?!That is interesting...
Looks like this edition was brought to you by the good folks at Fisher Price (your favorite Fisher Price Toys and Baby Gear. Find parenting guides, playtime ideas, advice from experts, kids toys, baby toys and more!)ad?! 8)
Oh, my... Do the black meeples have a face?!
farmers are lying face down, dead drunk with dispair at the new artworkOh, my... Do the black meeples have a face?!
..But not the farmers. They apparently don't need faces..
Oh, my... Do the black meeples have a face?!
I can't stop smiling at this comment.farmers are lying face down, dead drunk with dispair at the new artworkOh, my... Do the black meeples have a face?!
..But not the farmers. They apparently don't need faces..
...Is anyone else confused by what is going on on the front of the box? Is that some guy trying escape out of a window with knotted sheets? And how about the woman looking directly at you...and your shadow projecting onto the box. It's kind of creepy. The theme is incongruous with the low intelligence level of the tile art. It's very paradoxical. ???
Well done! :Dfarmers are lying face down, dead drunk with dispair at the new artworkOh, my... Do the black meeples have a face?!
..But not the farmers. They apparently don't need faces..
Today I opened the box of the new edition... I have to admit that the new design is much more beautiful in live then in photo!
the only problem is the green abbot... is lame! :)
Today I opened the box of the new edition... I have to admit that the new design is much more beautiful in live then in photo!
the only problem is the green abbot... is lame! :)
Highwayman?! You are kidding, aren't you?!
I have to wonder what is worse: the design or the rules. :(
There are far more important things in life than to go on bickering about the new version. I get it, it's a dismay. Yet still, many of you guys bought it anyway.
Just saying. :@
The one main regret I have is, that it came so late to this game. It would have been nice to be a fan while HiG were bringing out exciting large expansions like Traders and Inns and you had something to look forward to. Anticipation is always nice.
That looks like the hand of a Carcassonne player...
Sheep & Hills was received pretty well quite recently after all.
Sheep & Hills was received pretty well quite recently after all.
I think you'll find it's called Hills and Sheep. Or maybe it is Sheep and Hills? I've forgotten now... :green-meeple:
The one main regret I have is, that it came so late to this game. It would have been nice to be a fan while HiG were bringing out exciting large expansions like Traders and Inns and you had something to look forward to. Anticipation is always nice.
Call it blind optimism if you like, but I'm hopeful that there are plenty such times ahead of us. Sheep & Hills was received pretty well quite recently after all.
It's not really about sides. I have my own opinions towards this version of the game, which I've already discussed, but I wouldn't deny others the opportunity to speak up for or against it (regardless of how long it's been going on for).
I own the new version of the game and I quite like it for simple, base-game only games with my wife or whoever in the same way as we play Winter Edition. I still enjoy reading other people's thoughts and criticisms though.
Chillax dude! :meeple: 8) :(y)
Actually it just occurred to me that they might consider bumping up the price of any new expansions and issue them with both sets of artwork.Best solution: every new expansion with tiles for both styles in one box! ... I think the tiles and even the wooden pieces are not so expensive.
Best solution: every new expansion with tiles for both styles in one box! ... I think the tiles and even the wooden pieces are not so expensive.This would be the best solution that satisfies everyone.
It's not really about sides. I have my own opinions towards this version of the game, which I've already discussed, but I wouldn't deny others the opportunity to speak up for or against it (regardless of how long it's been going on for).
I own the new version of the game and I quite like it for simple, base-game only games with my wife or whoever in the same way as we play Winter Edition. I still enjoy reading other people's thoughts and criticisms though.
Chillax dude! :meeple: 8) :(y)
Well, maybe the new Edition might be your chance! :)The one main regret I have is, that it came so late to this game. It would have been nice to be a fan while HiG were bringing out exciting large expansions like Traders and Inns and you had something to look forward to. Anticipation is always nice.
Call it blind optimism if you like, but I'm hopeful that there are plenty such times ahead of us. Sheep & Hills was received pretty well quite recently after all.
yes, if they continue with expansions like that it would be nice
Actually it just occurred to me that they might consider bumping up the price of any new expansions and issue them with both sets of artwork.Hm, this would be a good compromise, but still: who should illustrate the tiles?!
Of course if the expansion included any new figures this would prevent people from splitting it between 2 people.
Yes, that came as quite a surprise. I didn't even recognise the photos until I saw my name next to them, but was pleased to see that it had generated a little bit of publicity for Carcassonne Central in the process!
The original pictures were posted on these forums here (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1217.msg15154#msg15154) and here (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1217.msg15274#msg15274). Nobody had forwarded these to Z-Man games or made them aware that we had them as far as I'm aware so be careful, we're being watched! C:-)