Two questions about the order of play. I know there isn't gonna be any official clarification, but what do you think?
When should the revolt take place when combined with the wheel of fortune, directly before or directly after the WoF action ?
Also, when combined with the plague, I guess we may place a flea token before the revolt? In some scenarios, that could remove our only unprotected meeple to make the revolt pass on to the next player
Well. I see big different between crop circles and peasent revolts.1. In peasant revold you have removed all of your unprotected meeples when you get it's tile +- it's destructive because you use your earned points for protection of possible thread2. In crop circles you can choose scenario in which you can benefit - you can add meeple to board and support your existing meeples or you can remove meeples from board, which can be also benefit, for example non scoring farmer from big field where you don't have majority and you can earn with them points on upcoming finished features.I think this new expansion will be one of most non played mini expansion in our collections ;-(
Quote from: Bumsakalaka on November 23, 2020, 09:43:44 AMWell. I see big different between crop circles and peasent revolts.1. In peasant revold you have removed all of your unprotected meeples when you get it's tile +- it's destructive because you use your earned points for protection of possible thread2. In crop circles you can choose scenario in which you can benefit - you can add meeple to board and support your existing meeples or you can remove meeples from board, which can be also benefit, for example non scoring farmer from big field where you don't have majority and you can earn with them points on upcoming finished features.I think this new expansion will be one of most non played mini expansion in our collections ;-(And another major difference is that crop circles affects every player, a revolt may affect only some of the players.
Oh, I forgot one: Can we protect a phantom, when placing it (4 points) and / or during a following turn (2 points)?I don't know when placing it, but I'd suggest it's possible in a following turn (2 points).
Quote from: tp10053 on November 23, 2020, 11:33:21 AMQuote from: Bumsakalaka on November 23, 2020, 11:29:47 AMAnyway. I have question.I know that 99,9999999% this situation will never come, but what if I get Revolt tile during game and I will not able to use this tile - due to not allowed place for this tile.By basic rules, this tile is removed from game and I get another tile.Will revolt run?Absolutely. The revolt happens before tile placement.Haha, on WiCa footnote #1 is solving this ;-)
Quote from: Bumsakalaka on November 23, 2020, 11:29:47 AMAnyway. I have question.I know that 99,9999999% this situation will never come, but what if I get Revolt tile during game and I will not able to use this tile - due to not allowed place for this tile.By basic rules, this tile is removed from game and I get another tile.Will revolt run?Absolutely. The revolt happens before tile placement.
Anyway. I have question.I know that 99,9999999% this situation will never come, but what if I get Revolt tile during game and I will not able to use this tile - due to not allowed place for this tile.By basic rules, this tile is removed from game and I get another tile.Will revolt run?
Quote from: corinthiens13 on November 23, 2020, 05:37:48 AMWhen should the revolt take place when combined with the wheel of fortune, directly before or directly after the WoF action ?Since this action happens after drawing a tile but before placing it, this means it happens in Step 1B, along with the actions of The Wheel of Fortune... So both of them belong to the same round of scoring at the end of this step. Note: I'm about to update the Order of Play to include this and the PnP expanions...
Quote from: corinthiens13 on November 23, 2020, 05:37:48 AMAlso, when combined with the plague, I guess we may place a flea token before the revolt? In some scenarios, that could remove our only unprotected meeple to make the revolt pass on to the next player Yes, you spread the plague once during your turn... You may decide when. The issue here is that there is no clear granularity of the individual actions in the steps, so there is no rule to prevent you from doing the following:- Place tile in front of you... - (Inner mental process: You spot your only unprotected meeple affected by the revolt and you decide to sacrifice it to the plague for the common good... Ahem!...in order to pass the revolt to the next player) - You place a flea token and remove your unprotected meeple, since The Plague allows you to choose when (living on the edge)- You score for your meeples now all protected from the current revolt- You pass the revolt to the next player...
I see you love to wreak havoc in your games....
Strange... I thought that, in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 13 was about Love... I'll have to re-read it, don't you think @Corinthiens13 ?
Quote from: corinthiens13 on November 23, 2020, 05:42:12 AMOh, I forgot one: Can we protect a phantom, when placing it (4 points) and / or during a following turn (2 points)?I don't know when placing it, but I'd suggest it's possible in a following turn (2 points).The rules do not limit the number of meeples you may protect during the placement of a tile for 4 points each. So you could protect a wooden meeple and your phantom...Additionally, each time you do not place a meeple, you can protect a meeple already placed (in a previous turn). In the great scheme of things this means:* Step 2B-1: If you do not place a meeple or perform any other action part of this step, you may protect a meeple.* Step 2B-2: If your phantom is in your supply and you decide not to place it, you may protect a meeple.Both steps should be skipped if you removed a knight with a princess tile.So cool!
* Step 2B-2: If your phantom is in your supply and you decide not to place it, you may protect a meeple.
In my opinion, protecting a meeple placed in a previous turn is just another Move the Wood option like e.g. building another tower piece, placing the fairy next to one of your meeples, placing a meeple on one of the WoF spots, etc. The principle is always the same: If you decide not to place a meeple, you can do one of those mentioned actions instead.However, none of those mentioned actions can be chosen as a substitute for the phantom in Step 2B-2 if you still have the phantom in your supply and decide not to place it. So, to conclude, you cannot protect a meeple in your second phantom turn (Step 2B-2).
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