Author Topic: Expansion Ferry (Read 1176 times)

Bartari · « **on:** December 06, 2020, 06:16:11 AM »

Hi all,

What I am told is that the river does not seperate the meadow, like toe roads. What I would like to know if the lakes in the expansion of the ferries do seperate the meadow. If not the position of the ferry could also change the meadow. I can not find any ruling about this.

Bartari

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Meepledrone · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2020, 07:43:00 AM »

Hi Bartari,

Welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy it...

Rivers separate fields the same as roads. However, you have to pay attention to large bridges, that join cities and do not split the fields. The field strips pass under them uninterrupted. For example:

You can find some clarifications about river tiles configurations and how they affect fields here:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/River#Clarifications_for_new_landscape_tiles

Regarding ferry lakes, they also serve a field boundary, the same as rivers. They are another body of water bordering on fields. The roads leading to ferry lakes end at a jetty connected by the ferry wooden piece. Moving the ferries does not change the configuration of the fields.

If you are interested in this possibility, a C1 fan expansion called Detour & Impasse explores this concept of changing roads and field configurations during the game by using ferry pieces. It is like removing the lakes from the tiles but keeping the ferries connecting / disconnecting roads. As a result, these moving ferries affect the configuration of the neighboring fields too. This was a collaborative effort of several forum members and posted by CarKing in the Download area here:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=267

Cheers!

Bumsakalaka · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2020, 07:43:22 AM »

Well I don't know where you got this information but river divide fields on river sides. Also lakes in Ferries divide fields on it's sides.

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Bartari · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2020, 03:50:22 AM »

Thank you both for the answers. The reason why I would say that the river and the lakes do not divide fields is because the rule of the basic game says that fields are split by roads and cities. In the expansion of the river I do not read that the river splits fields too. The same is the case for ferries. I do not read that lakes split fields too.

The links are very clear in explantion, but who decides that these are the official rules and not house rules?

Meepledrone · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2020, 04:23:20 AM »

The rules for the River lack a lot of detail, but HiG has provided a number of clarifications. All this clarifications have been intgrated into the text for easier reading in the C2 rules here:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/River

But in the C1 page they are still included as footnotes (the dates of the official clarifications are included in parenthesis):

* The field goes around the river source and the lake (this was included in the Big Box 1 rules by RGG):
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/River_(1st_edition)#cite_note-1

* The city bridge does not separate field segments. Only the river separates the field segments on this tile. (1/2013)
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/River_(1st_edition)#cite_note-4

* The river segments separate farms. (08/2014)
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/River_(1st_edition)#cite_note-18

Hope this helps.