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Title: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 14, 2015, 03:00:28 AM
Traders & Builders League: Group B

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/TandBLeague_GroupB.jpg)

Please use this thread (or Private Messages) to arrange matches between players and to post scores/ match reports afterwards.

Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 14, 2015, 03:04:24 AM
Greetings to everyone in group B, I look forward to playing with all of you!
As seen in the list, I'm from Belgium GMT+1, but it looks like most of our timezones are around that.

To get things started: I got a day off this friday (16th) and sunday (18th),so I can get some games done then :)

Feel free to PM and/or post here!

PS: I can finally test if I can host then, should be OK though, got the ports opened after alot of tinkering.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 14, 2015, 04:04:33 AM
Greetings to everybody from me, too. Let's do a game on friday then, Yall, since I have a day off there as well, and others might rather take the opportunity to match you on weekend. What time would you prefer? Great, if you can host the game, otherwise we will sure need an admin.

I have (uncommonly) quite few work to do, right now. Today and tomorrow just two brief jobs in the evening. So I will not to be able to take part in a game between 6 p.m. and half past 10 p.m. (between 7 p.m. and half past 11 for our Latvian friends) on either of this days, but any other time I would like to get a few other games running. :)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 14, 2015, 05:25:23 AM
As administrator of Group B, I can help with hosting your games (and play mine as well).
I am free mostly at workday evenings, after 21:00 (GMT+2) till almost midnight, and also at weekends. If I am not able to play, I am always able to host a requested game (18:00-24:00 GMT+2 on workdays). If this is the case, feel free to write me a PM for connection details.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 14, 2015, 07:19:02 AM
Hi everyboby! I could play tomorrow and friday after 21:00 and also Saturday during the day. Let me know!
Cheers,
Jéré
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 14, 2015, 08:53:04 AM
Hello, Group B members!
As for me, this week only Saturday is suitable. Jéré, how about a game Saturday afternoon?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 14, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Hi Leven!

Is Sat 12:00 ok? Can you host? If not, MrNumber?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 14, 2015, 02:19:37 PM
12:00 is OK.
I'm currently trying to set up my router with port forwarding, and I asked someone to attempt the connection, but no success so far.  :(
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 14, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
The first game of the league has been played! It was a match between me and Hounk (and I got to host, which worked, so yay!)
In the end I won with a score 222 vs 127, but it was a pretty tight match until a few good tiles were drawn for me.

Little summary of the game:
The game started pretty slow, not much happened except that I got my builder stuck on a long road which needed a specific FFRR tile. This tile also blocked my monk for a long time. Hounk was able to score a few quick barrels, and after a good 20 to 30 tiles we started building the huge city on the right of the board. The focus on getting that city was a big thing for the rest of the game, at one time I was sure I was gonna lose it! We both had 3 meeples in it (or well, possible meeples in it, the only tile that was missing was the CCCC tile topright). When I drew the CCCC tile with the red ribbon on top, I was able to lock out Hounk's 3th meeple in the little 4pt city to the right of it, scoring me big points, and at this point in the game those 40 or so points gave me a huge jump.
The battle for the farm was also ongoing all the while, and I managed near the end to tie him in farmers, both scoring the same.

In the end I had a really good time playing, especially since this is my first time doing any sort of competition with it!

Screenshot of the game: (sorry, couldn't get it small enough to attach it to the post)
(http://i.imgur.com/pBMVhcg.png) (http://i.imgur.com/pBMVhcg.png)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 14, 2015, 03:28:15 PM
Hi Leven!

Is Sat 12:00 ok? Can you host? If not, MrNumbers?

No problem! Just inform me about exact time, including time zone :)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 14, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
Great game by Yall. I made a capital mistake with my trader, I knew right away after I placed it, but over all had an enjoyable and thrilling game all the same. Yall really pushed me to the limit with the big city. Sure it was luck, that he draw the winning CCCC, but it would have been luck either way.

On the farm, Yall also had been in the lead for most of the time. I was on the field first, but after he sneaked in and blocked my first attempt to regain it with the 3-point farmer next to the "wine city", he soon took the lead with the farmer over the road cloister. In the end, I tried to make the swing with a quick attack of two more farmers, but again he found a way back to even this out.

I myself at least managed to even Yall out on the trade goods. After the big city, it seemed certain, that he got them 30:0, but the tiny city of him on the bottom of the map gave me just the two tokens I needed to shift it to 20:20, so I finished that for 8 points for him.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 14, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
Sounds like a great game guys. Thanks for getting the competition off to such an exciting start!  :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 15, 2015, 01:46:01 AM
Game is afoot!

I can most of my weekday evenings after 18:10 - 02:am. Cannot host as new computer is not set up with an open port.

Just message me a day I'll make sure I am there. I am at +1 Stockholm (and Belgium as well) time.

There is also the irc chat: http://sydby.com/carcassonne/irc/ (http://sydby.com/carcassonne/irc/)

And Ventrilo voice group chat:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1313 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1313)

 :meeple:
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 15, 2015, 03:24:40 AM
You mean, you are at +1 to Stockholm time? I assume not. ;) According to danisthirty's table all of the competitors of this group are set in Central European Time (CET or GMT+1), with the exception of MrNumber and zone2, who are in Eastern European Time (EET or GMT+2).
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 15, 2015, 05:11:12 AM
You mean, you are at +1 to Stockholm time? I assume not. ;) According to danisthirty's table all of the competitors of this group are set in Central European Time (CET or GMT+1), with the exception of MrNumber and zone2, who are in Eastern European Time (EET or GMT+2).

Central European Time Zone (UTC+01:00) Stockholm, Time zone

This is what I meant.  ;)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 15, 2015, 09:07:52 AM
I am now on from 6pm to 2am. I will be on irc chat and if I can, on Ventrilo as well. Checking both every few mins as I work. Can't host but ready to play a game for this league B.  :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 15, 2015, 12:45:10 PM
Just had a very close game with Jéré. I called it "one barrel close" :)
MrNumbers vs. Jere - 184:197.
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Jere stats.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Jere board.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Jere resources.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 15, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
Jéré won his second game this evening and is now playing his third. So I am posting the screen shot.

I got always too few meeples in compare to Jéré, so I was never able to win the farm battle against him. The second big factor had been the trade goods. My only chance to attain some would have been to finish his unfinished with four points, when it was still worth only 3. I thought,this would not be worth it, because I was without any chance of getting enough grain and with only a minor one to get a second barrel. Turned out to be the right decision, since I could not finish the city below next to the 9 point farmer by Jéré.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 15, 2015, 03:38:05 PM
Finally I have successfully calibrated my firewall, so I can be a host at my Saturday afternoon league matches.
First against Jéré at 12:00, and right after that against Yellow. (Yellow, you will be with  :meeple:, right? :) )
I'm looking forward to playing my first competition matches.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 15, 2015, 03:47:08 PM
Played 2 games this evening, had great fun in both of 'em!

Yall vs Jéré:  151-190
(http://i.imgur.com/jsgb3y1.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jsgb3y1.png)

Yall vs Yellow :meeple::  182-140
(http://i.imgur.com/KmBvMhU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/KmBvMhU.png)

PS: If anyone needs hosting service and MrNumbers isn't online, feel free to PM me, I can usually turn on my PC at any time of the day.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 15, 2015, 03:55:37 PM
Actually, if it is not to late for Yellow now, it would be great, if you could host the two of us!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 15, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Yeah I can host, you both still got the IP?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 15, 2015, 05:00:09 PM
Yellow vs Hounk. I had a sure win then all of a sudden our farm was shared. O_o
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 15, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
I was veeery lucky, drawing a corner road to connect my farmer next to the cloister with three roads to the main farm. It was my one but last tile.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: jungleboy on January 16, 2015, 12:19:11 AM
Jéré won his second game this evening and is now playing his third.

There's no prize for finishing games quickly this time Jéré :)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 16, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
The scores on the doors (so far):

Jere: +9 league points, +103 total score differential (3 played)  8)
Yall: +6 league points, +98 total score differential (3 played)  :)
Hounk: +3 league points, -122 total score differential (3 played) :P
MrNumbers: 0 league points, -13 total score differential (1 played)  :-[
Yellow: 0 league points, -66 total score differential (2 played) >:(
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 16, 2015, 01:25:50 AM
You missed one of my games I think, Dan :) One of my posts contained 2 games: vs Jéré and vs Yellow. I also played vs Hounk the day before

Small edit for myself:
I still have to play MrNumbers, Quevy, Farin, Leven and Zone2.
I'll be on today until 16.00 CET, sunday I can be on at any time, monday I can be on at any time and tuesday I can be on until 21.00 (gotta love taking a few days off to get a long weekend!)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 16, 2015, 01:30:23 AM
You missed one of my games I think, Dan :) One of my posts contained 2 games: vs Jéré and vs Yellow. I also played vs Hounk the day before

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't spotted it. I've updated the scores now. Hopefully they're correct!

You guys are going great guns! 6 matches played already. We've managed 2 so far but hopefully we'll get another 2 or 3 in this evening depending on who's around...
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 16, 2015, 04:36:41 AM

Jéré won his second game this evening and is now playing his third.

There's no prize for finishing games quickly this time Jéré :)

Ohhh I thought Dan would offer a Big Box, poatage included... :'(
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 16, 2015, 04:51:40 AM
If someone wants to play tonight or tomorrow morning please let me know.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 16, 2015, 06:00:29 AM

Jéré won his second game this evening and is now playing his third.

There's no prize for finishing games quickly this time Jéré :)

Ohhh I thought Dan would offer a Big Box, poatage included... :'(

A Big Box could be arranged. It would more than likely be empty though, and wouldn't have anything to do with Carcassonne...
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 16, 2015, 07:47:55 AM
"I like Big Boxes and I cannot lie..." *singing*

Today after 6pm I be on until 2am again if able to play against me.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 16, 2015, 09:26:47 AM
Hey Yellow! What about 9pm?  We need somebody to host right?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 16, 2015, 09:32:26 AM
Hey Yellow! What about 9pm?  We need somebody to host right?

I believe so. I can't host atm and not able to fix it tonight either. 9pm sounds good. I'm in irc until 2am (or when I fall asleep, as usual)  8)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 16, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Hey Yellow! What about 9pm?  We need somebody to host right?

I am ready to host. Just let me know the final decision.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 16, 2015, 09:50:06 AM
Allright! Lets play at 9pm! (10pm in LV)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on January 16, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Sorry for my absence, the child takes time, in quest days I can read but not write, I hope to be more free from Sunday.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: zone2 on January 16, 2015, 12:26:39 PM

I can most of my weekday evenings after 18:10 - 02:am. Cannot host as new computer is not set up with an open port.

Just message me a day I'll make sure I am there. I am at +1 Stockholm (and Belgium as well) time.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 16, 2015, 01:20:49 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 16, 2015, 01:54:11 PM
MrNumbers vs. Yellow

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Yellow stats.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Yellow board.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Yellow resources.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 17, 2015, 04:30:13 AM
First defeat!  Congrats to Leven! He played well and it was for me one of those games where nothing goes smoothly. It happens!

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/17/14b6efcc09a62c15b7410ef6c5fe57ae.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/17/5e30c150f9dd330fd21d1297a49ef5c9.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 17, 2015, 05:21:15 AM
MrNumbers vs. Hounk
Very close game! One of the closest I ever played!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 17, 2015, 05:22:37 AM
Zone2 vs. Hounk
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 17, 2015, 05:31:37 AM
Had both been very enjoyable games for me, although I lost both. Wouldn't have believed, that I might come that close to the "Nr. 1 set" player of our group, but I had the advantage of trapping his builder quite early for what not necessarily was but ultimately turned out to be the rest of the game. Mr.Number once finally had the opportunity, to set it free, but only by sacrificing the biggest farm with 20something tiles to play, so he of course avoided that.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 17, 2015, 10:56:24 AM
I've created a x-list for the scoring.

Hounk and Jerè have played 5 games.
quevy and farin didn't play any game yet.

11 games were played till this afternoon (German time).

The highest score: 222 points.
The smallest score: 98 points.

The highest score difference: 95 points.
The smallest score difference: 4 points.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 17, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
MrNumbers vs. Leven
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 17, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
Jéré vs. zone2
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 17, 2015, 03:23:47 PM
Zone2 vs Leven.  :(

Zone2 reached a new group-record with 227 pts.
Little comfort fo me, that my score (203 pts) is overall the 3rd best so far (and obviously the best score for a loser). Main reason for that is that huge city near the middle where we both had 3 followers. But Zone2 was the lucky to finish it which was decisive since all those fine trade goods went to him. This happened quite early in the game, the rest of it was only damage recovery for me. Anyway, be aware of Zone2, he seems very strong.

Another curiosity of this game was that all 20 trade goods had been collected (= there were no incomplete cities with trade goods in the end). I suppose this is something which does not happen quite often. E.g. when I played against Jéré we collected only 7 trade goods altogether. (Well, that might be a record as well.  :) )
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 18, 2015, 12:55:48 AM
If anyone wants to play me today, I'm available all day. (Also tomorrow and the day after that!)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 18, 2015, 01:49:08 AM
My game vs zone2 was a quick one, but he got me quite good!

The game was a constant battle for the big cities where he every single time managed to sneak in and close it off for the trade goods, so while the score was tied, he was getting a lead on the trade goods.. The battle for the farm was also won bigtime by him, he kept drawing perfect tiles to get extra farmers in it, only using 2 turns each farmer most of the time. All the while he used every opportunity to block me off. Very well played by zone2 :)

(sorry for the messed up screenshot, forgot to move out the score from the board... Not much happened top left)

Yall vs. zone2   165-208
(http://i.imgur.com/wVXRz57.png) (http://i.imgur.com/wVXRz57.png)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 18, 2015, 03:08:14 AM
If anyone wants to play me today, I'm available all day. (Also tomorrow and the day after that!)

I am ready to play now, Yall.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 18, 2015, 03:14:37 AM
Hi I am usually available every evening (except Wednesdays) after 21.00 CET. I can host game.

I am open to one game today.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 18, 2015, 03:53:50 AM
MrNumbers vs. Yall
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 18, 2015, 03:54:21 AM
Hi I am usually available every evening (except Wednesdays) after 21.00 CET. I can host game.

I am open to one game today.
Hi farin,
nice to hear from you.
So who is the first one and will play with you a game?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 18, 2015, 06:21:59 AM
I've created a x-list for the scoring - update 18 01 2015.

Jerè has played 6 games.
Hounk, NrNumbers and Yall have played 5 games.
quevy and farin didn't play any game yet.

16 games were played till this afternoon (German time).

The highest score: 227 points.
The smallest score: 98 points.

The highest score difference: 95 points.
The smallest score difference: 4 points.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 18, 2015, 06:33:37 AM
Thanks for being our official scorekeeper kettlefish!

Could you also track the highest losing score and lowest winning score? Just out of interest really!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 18, 2015, 06:38:03 AM
Thanks for being our official scorekeeper kettlefish!

Could you also track the highest losing score and lowest winning score? Just out of interest really!

highest losing score: 203 points
lowest winning score: 149 points
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on January 18, 2015, 09:28:50 AM
Hello everyone, I have a couple of free hours, anyone can play now?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 18, 2015, 09:31:05 AM
I wrote you a PM. I would like to. Can you host?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on January 18, 2015, 09:36:27 AM
I can not hosting.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 18, 2015, 10:05:17 AM
I can not hosting.

I can help with the hosting.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on January 18, 2015, 10:18:29 AM
Thanks, we played on the server Farin
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on January 18, 2015, 10:27:49 AM
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2j503lu.jpg)

Hounk win 234-123

He first connected third and ousted my little man, stopped my attempts addition, closed the closest 2 moves through the manufacturer.
He secured 80 points and 30 cities of goods, with 110 points ahead I could not do anything to recover.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on January 18, 2015, 11:40:07 AM
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2w21yqs.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 18, 2015, 12:00:33 PM
hi guys i am now in http://sydby.com/carcassonne/irc/ if you wanna play
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 18, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
zone2  176 - 112 - farin

thanks for the game, although it was bad game play by myself
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: zone2 on January 18, 2015, 01:13:22 PM

great city all set ...
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 18, 2015, 01:34:26 PM
Yall vs Leven  170-144

Got myself trapped way too early and had no luck at all getting any trade goods, very well played by Leven.

(http://i.imgur.com/M39aJVA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/M39aJVA.png)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 18, 2015, 01:43:10 PM
Correction: Yall vs Leven 144-170  ::)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 18, 2015, 02:09:42 PM
Jere 139 - Farin 131

great and tough game, a lot of blocking and trapping, Jere get 30 trade goods points with only 4 pieces. Each token is important!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 18, 2015, 02:11:42 PM
Great game Farin. Very tough one!! Well played!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 18, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
Jerè and farin - that was a close game.
Congrats to Jerè.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on January 18, 2015, 02:56:29 PM
Correction: Yall vs Leven 144-170  ::)

Hey! I can try ;)

My bad!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 18, 2015, 03:00:25 PM
Hi, guys.

Almost Midnight here, thought I announce before I go to bed that I am up to play again Monday-Friday after 6pm-2am CET / Stockholm against those I've not have met yet.
  I will try be on the entire time but can't be sure of this. Message me (again if already did) a time I'll reply to confirm.

 :meeple:
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 18, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Here comes the newest x-list.

Included all the games from today and the stats.

Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 18, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
Well done everyone. I had no idea so many games had taken place! Your 21 plus our 12 means we've already played 33 games in less than a week!  :(y) :(y) :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 18, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
Our advantage is, that we are within an hour more or less the same timezone. Thanks to kettlefish for the great scoring lists from me, too.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 19, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
Look at this. Hounk won by the smallest possible margin.  :(
I need to think about it how I could lose this one as Hounk had no more meeple in the last quarter of the game.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 19, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
Leven vs. Hounk

Probably the oddest game of the league. Leven blocked me beautiful, so that with probably 40 tiles to go, I had no single meeple at disposal. My last one I placed as a farmer, because I knew, it was mandatory to get at least even on the largest farm. The only thing I could do in the finish of the game was adding to my big city and cloister and bocking Leven from getting into the city and the main farm again.

The result seems fitting to the strangeness of the game,although a tie would have at least be more appropriate. My most important tile was the cfff up and to the right of Levens 6 point knight.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 19, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
Wow, crazy game. Must be annoying to loose by 1 pt.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 19, 2015, 03:39:16 PM
Wow, crazy game. Must be annoying to loose by 1 pt.

It is, indeed, but still I will remember this one as one of the most interesting games I've ever played. I think Hounk deserved the win because of the awesome defending he presented in the final phase of the game, not allowing me to join the big farm and the big city with another meeple. (Putting that CCCF tile was a brilliant move.)
So bad it's not possible to view a playback of the whole game in JCZ, I think it would be quite educational.

There was still around 20 tiles to the end when none of us had any more meeple in the supply. At that time I had a lead by circa 25 points but then it was already certain that Hounk would win a 30 pt (incompletable) city in the end, he led 2:1 in trade goods, and he had two valuable (incompletable) cloisters as well. The big farm was almost completely surrounded, there was only minor chance to break the tie there.
A few tiles later I got a follower back by finishing a road, and so I began my mission to collect as many points as I can with that single available follower in the remaining time. As I didn't want to lose that follower, I only deployed it if it gave me points immediately (mainly by closing roads). Finally, at my last but one tile I deployed the meeple to a farm which gave me 6 points. But it was just not enough because in the meantime Hounk was able to place a tile in the surrounding of his cloister which gave him an extra point in the end. And finally he won with this single point. Unbelievable.

Excellent game, Hounk, congratulations.  :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 20, 2015, 06:56:49 AM
Thank you for the high praise and the good sportsmanship, it was really a great and memorable game for myself. I think, I did learn a lot about Carcassonne from the few JCZ games, I participated in the last weeks, and of course this game tough me by itself a great lot, because you have been a real good, though little unlucky opponent.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 20, 2015, 08:41:50 AM
Yesterday I had some computer issues so I was offline pretty much the entire night.

Today I am off soon to go buy groceries but will be on from 8pm to 2am if someone able to play against me.

irc chat, ventrilo, skype and forum availability during which.

 :meeple:
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 20, 2015, 09:45:36 AM
Wow, crazy game. Must be annoying to loose by 1 pt.
So bad it's not possible to view a playback of the whole game in JCZ, I think it would be quite educational.

I haven't been using it in the current tournament, but previously I have used a free program called "Screen Recorder" (http://www.sketchman-studio.com/rylstim-screen-recorder/) to record games played using JCloisterZone. It simply records everything you see on the screen to a video file which you can watch back or do whatever you like with. I've even posted a few videos online (here's a video from last year's base-game only league where MrNumbers taught me a lesson in how not to join a farm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9XaDW7_ltE)...
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 20, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
zone2: 170, Yellow: 157
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 20, 2015, 03:20:46 PM
Farin vs. Hounk 166:173

To be honest, farin played much better than me. I did a lot of mistakes, especially concerning farming and meeple management. I was very lucky in winning and closing the big city on the bottom right, so I got a healthy supply of points and a sure win of the trade goods there.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 21, 2015, 12:36:50 AM
My third game against Hounk. It's classic, I lost big city, all trade goods, focusing to rest of game to finally lose by few points.
Trade goods is my weakness, I must improve this to not have 30 points shortage every game :-)
But must admint that it's not clever play into big city to make it bigger when you have better position. It's too risky.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 21, 2015, 03:01:01 AM
Concerning the trade goods: I earned 2 barrels of wine  and 1 grain early in the game, the grain by closing a small city of farin, one wine from a medium city from him, and one from a small city of my own next to it. I have mixed feelings about the wine from farins city, because it gave him 16 points right away and I did not need it at all in the end. But he most likely would have finished the city anyway soon and it led to a near certain win of the wine trade after I got the big city. (I needed to block or win just one other token afterwards.) The cloth was decided by the big city only, so the only option where farin might have gained points after that would have been wheat. I'm not sure, how the distribution went exactly on those.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 22, 2015, 09:25:18 AM
Here comes the newest x-list.

Included all the games from 20 01 2015
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 22, 2015, 04:17:13 PM
Wow, crazy game. Must be annoying to loose by 1 pt.
So bad it's not possible to view a playback of the whole game in JCZ, I think it would be quite educational.

I haven't been using it in the current tournament, but previously I have used a free program called "Screen Recorder" (http://www.sketchman-studio.com/rylstim-screen-recorder/) to record games played using JCloisterZone. It simply records everything you see on the screen to a video file which you can watch back or do whatever you like with. I've even posted a few videos online (here's a video from last year's base-game only league where MrNumbers taught me a lesson in how not to join a farm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9XaDW7_ltE)...

Thanks for the suggestion, Dan.
Yesterday I tried the Screen Recorder. It's very easy to use, but makes only few settings possible (almost nothing, you just hit the "Start" and it records the whole area of the screen, real-time). I recorded a game which lasted almost half an hour, and the result was a 176 MB avi file. Maybe a bit large, especially if you'd like to record and archive all the competition games you play.
So, after that, I searched for other free screen recording softwares on the net, and ran into CamStudio. It's way more complex than Screen Recorder, has a lot of options and settings for recording. E.g. you can define a particular area of the screen, or select a given window to record, you can add a time stamp to the video, but what is more important, it is possible to make time-lapse videos: for this you can set how often the recorder will capture frames and how many frames it will include in one second. I've been experimenting with the settings today, the latest recording with 7x timelapse became a 22 MB file, but I assume it could be even smaller with even more sophisticated settings. So far it's very promising.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on January 23, 2015, 01:49:27 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, Dan.

You're welcome!  :)

Yesterday I tried the Screen Recorder. It's very easy to use, but makes only few settings possible (almost nothing, you just hit the "Start" and it records the whole area of the screen, real-time). I recorded a game which lasted almost half an hour, and the result was a 176 MB avi file. Maybe a bit large, especially if you'd like to record and archive all the competition games you play.

I certainly agree about the simplistic approach. I don't have access to it where I am at the moment, so can't check for sure, but you can at least specify a video codec to use and a frame rate which may help to reduce the overall file size. I haven't had a problem with storage so far even after recording most of the games I either played or hosted from the base-game league and the World Cup last year, as well as a handful of weekly games. They take up maybe 5 - 10gb between them which is nothing really by today's standards; 32gb USB stick for £8.97 anyone?

So, after that, I searched for other free screen recording softwares on the net, and ran into CamStudio. It's way more complex than Screen Recorder, has a lot of options and settings for recording. E.g. you can define a particular area of the screen, or select a given window to record, you can add a time stamp to the video, but what is more important, it is possible to make time-lapse videos: for this you can set how often the recorder will capture frames and how many frames it will include in one second. I've been experimenting with the settings today, the latest recording with 7x timelapse became a 22 MB file, but I assume it could be even smaller with even more sophisticated settings. So far it's very promising.

That sounds excellent, I look forward to seeing the results!  :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 23, 2015, 01:19:08 PM
Yellow vs Leven.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 23, 2015, 05:41:01 PM
My game against Yellow was again a very exciting one. For a long time it was a head to head match. In the first half of the game Yellow successfully finished some medium and big cities, gaining plenty of trade goods. so in the second half of the game I was focusing on getting the majority on the main farm. In the end I succeeded (luckily I drew some proper tiles), while Yellow had no more followers for the last 20 tiles.

If you are interested, here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsDpIcaOhc) you can watch the whole game on video (made by CamStudio).
(Switch to HD for better quality.)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 24, 2015, 02:35:16 AM
Nice video. This was really a close one.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on January 24, 2015, 02:41:21 AM
Good stuff Leven. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 24, 2015, 12:26:47 PM
MrNumbers vs. zone2 - 172:157.
Very high-tensed game! Only 6 trade tokens were claimed.

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. zone2 stats.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. zone2 board.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. zone2 resources.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on January 24, 2015, 02:54:12 PM
MrNumbers vs. Farin - 198:146.
Used my favorite trapping technique quite much >:D

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Farin stats.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Farin board.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Farin resources.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 25, 2015, 07:17:21 AM
Here comes the newest x-list.

Included all the games from 24 01 2015
--------------------------------------------
zone2 and Hounk have played all their 8 games against theire opponents.

NrNumers and Jerè have to play only one game left - both against their opponent quevy.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 26, 2015, 02:16:08 PM
Leven 162 - 138 Farin

My first game in league which was not about trade goods but about farm majority.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 26, 2015, 03:34:45 PM
And here is the time-lapse video of the game: http://youtu.be/v5q9l15ZjGs (http://youtu.be/v5q9l15ZjGs)
It could have easily ended the other way. With some luck I was able to prevent Farin from equalizing the number of farmers on the main farm, and finally this was the key for the victory.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 27, 2015, 02:31:06 AM
Very interesting to watch, thank you. But it is at times a little difficult to see, where farin put his tiles, because of the time laps and you did not mark the last placed tiles with the "x" key.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 27, 2015, 07:37:01 AM
Very interesting to watch, thank you. But it is at times a little difficult to see, where farin put his tiles, because of the time laps and you did not mark the last placed tiles with the "x" key.
For the last 24 tiles it was turned on, but yes, I forgot to use it from the beginning, sorry.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on January 27, 2015, 09:44:12 AM
No reason to be sorry about that. I just mentioned it.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on January 29, 2015, 10:57:06 AM
Here comes the newest x-list.

Included all the games until 29 01 2015

It was only one game played since my last x-list.
--------------------------------------------
Stats League B:
zone2 and Hounk have played all their 8 games against theire opponents.
League points 18 to 12
The total players score points of both are 217 points different 1530 to 1313, but together they received 2843 points.
---------------------------------------
Stats League A - total players score from danisthirty and Rosco 1400 to 1407, but together they received 2807 points - that means League A has 36 points less than League B.
I used only the players who finished all their games.
---------------------------------------
NrNumers, Jerè and Leven have to play only one game left - all against their opponent quevy.
farin has to play against Yall and against Yellow. And they all need to play against quevy.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on January 29, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
Quevy is very busy these days, but maybe this weekend we can play our match.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on January 30, 2015, 06:30:35 AM
Yellow, Yall, quevy - i will be probably available next week almost every evening - starting from Sunday, since eg 21.00 CET
So if you wanna play out match sent me a PM.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on January 30, 2015, 07:32:44 AM
Yellow, Yall, quevy - i will be probably available next week almost every evening - starting from Sunday, since eg 21.00 CET
So if you wanna play out match sent me a PM.

Sounds good. I will be on at that time as well during any weekday. Drop me a PM too if able to play!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on February 01, 2015, 06:34:32 AM
Quevy 177 -  Jéré  155

Congrats Quevy!  I think he will be first to admit that the luck factor played an important role in the game. There was a big city very easy to close: nobody had majority but it contained lots of trade goods. It was whoever would close it first to get the goods and it took ridiculously long (10+ turns) to get the right tile. Quevy got it.  He also scored 26 pts with the last tile, joining the main field. I was trying to block so that tile was a tough one to get... Very lucky Quevy.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/01/5e3178540a799cc167e36b8369138178.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on February 01, 2015, 08:39:32 AM
Congratulations on a great win, Quevy! That makes very interesting situation in our group:
1. If I win or draw Quevy, I will secure myself first place in Group B, with zone2 on the second and Jere on the third.
2. I lost to Quevy:
   a) Quevy has all chances to finish at the top of the group, if he wins all remaining matches with enough score differential to beat me and zone2;
   b) If Quevy looses one more match, then my lost to him must not be more than 21 point to stay on the top, otherwise zone2 will beat me on score differential and it will make him the leader of our group.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on February 01, 2015, 01:55:45 PM
It seems this is quevy's day:
Quevy vs Leven 207:115 (!)

I think it was my most awful game in the league, I was largely unsuccessful in doing anything. With the final tile quevy even finished a big city with lots of trade goods, just to push me even deeper.
Very good play, quevy, congratulations.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on February 01, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
(http://i60.tinypic.com/zwx4c3.jpg)

Two tiles final very fortunate today. I must say though the game against you was not won for that as against Jerè, I am satisfied with how I managed the game, my biggest problem when I play.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on February 01, 2015, 02:45:36 PM
I think it was my most awful game in the league, I was largely unsuccessful in doing anything. With the final tile quevy even finished a big city with lots of trade goods, just to push me even deeper.
But just not deep enough! :'( Rah, I should have beaten you by two points rather then by one! >:D
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on February 02, 2015, 12:53:00 AM
I think it was my most awful game in the league, I was largely unsuccessful in doing anything. With the final tile quevy even finished a big city with lots of trade goods, just to push me even deeper.
But just not deep enough! :'( Rah, I should have beaten you by two points rather then by one! >:D

Well, that... is... UNBELIEVABLE!!!  :))
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on February 02, 2015, 02:00:26 AM
To be honest, I rather did not loose the place in our game, but in the one against farin. ;) After I won luckily a big city there, while farin was fighting back greatly, I had some mediocre moves, I could not be satisfied with. So I thought right at the spot, that I should not to be too contend with that tight win, because I might have lost some valuable secondary points the way, our group played out. I did not consider ending up in front of you though, but Yall and quevy could also take advantage of my negative point difference.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on February 02, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
I will be on tonight until 2am again this Monday (8 hours from now) if farin and quevy is up for their games.

Online in Ventrilo and irc chat, checking it every 5-15 mins while working.

 wolleY
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 02, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Here comes the new x-score list.

Jerè, Hounk, Leven and zone2 have finished all their 8 games.

Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on February 03, 2015, 11:35:23 AM
i am on irc chat today
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 03, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
Farin needs to play against Yellow, Yall and quevy.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 03, 2015, 02:13:35 PM
I've been very busy last week, but I got a few days off the next couple of days, so if possible I'd like to play quevy and farin then!

On the brightside, my bigbox from Basically Wooden arrived today, yay!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on February 04, 2015, 04:01:40 PM
No matches was played today for me. I'll be online again tomorrow evening as usual, case of.  :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on February 05, 2015, 12:19:10 PM
Yellow vs farin
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 05, 2015, 10:43:51 PM
here comes the new x-score list - League B:

farin has won his first game against Yellow and received 3 league points.
Yellow has only one chance to get 3 Points - his last opponent is quevy.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 06, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
We have here at the League B some games to play:

farin - Yall

quevy against:
- MrNumbers
- Yellow
- farin
- Yall
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: MrNumbers on February 09, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
Just played my final game with Quevy. It was awkward game, everything seemed strange - many small farms, strange cities, almost no useful cloisters... But, despite quevy has trapped my two meeples quite early, I managed to win the big city with many trade goods, and that sealed the deal!
See you in final battle, Dan! >:D

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Quevy stats.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Quevy board.jpg)
(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/MrNumbers vs. Quevy resources.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on February 09, 2015, 01:44:58 PM
I was elated to be able to block two followers to MrNumber and I ended up playing with less concentration, congratulations to the winner of the round.

I did play with yellow, I'm sorry for having taken away the last chance to score points.
197/174

(http://i57.tinypic.com/33jh8g4.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 09, 2015, 02:35:02 PM
Here comes the new x-score list for the League B.

Congratulations to you MrNumbers - you have the most League points in both Leagues (A+B) = 21 points.

Sorry for you Yellow - I really hoped that you would get 3 points, but quevy played well against you.

----------------------
In League B are 3 games open:

farin - Yall
quevy - farin
quevy - Yall
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 10, 2015, 02:04:26 AM
See you in final battle, Dan! >:D

Well done MrNumbers! I'm looking forward to it already...  ;)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on February 10, 2015, 02:16:33 PM
hi guys, today I will be online (and able to play) during day and not at evening. So if you prefere different time then evening it's unique opportunity :-)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 11, 2015, 09:30:07 AM
what is with the last 3 games?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 12, 2015, 03:16:03 AM
I've been a bit busy lately, so haven't really had the time to set up my last 2 matches vs Farin and Quevy.

If any of those 2 are available, I will be ready to go tonight after 23.00 (gmt+1), and most of tomorrow during the day.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 12, 2015, 03:33:47 AM
I've been a bit busy lately, so haven't really had the time to set up my last 2 matches vs Farin and Quevy.

If any of those 2 are available, I will be ready to go tonight after 23.00 (gmt+1), and most of tomorrow during the day.

Thanks for the update Yall. Hopefully quevy and farin will both be able to make the most of this opportunity (and then play each other while they're at it!)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Paul on February 12, 2015, 04:35:35 AM
I've been a bit busy lately, so haven't really had the time to set up my last 2 matches vs Farin and Quevy.

If any of those 2 are available, I will be ready to go tonight after 23.00 (gmt+1), and most of tomorrow during the day.

Thanks for the update Yall. Hopefully quevy and farin will both be able to make the most of this opportunity (and then play each other while they're at it!)

A bit off topic but it's related do this post in particular and not sure it warrants a full thread: Playing 3 carcassonne games at once using alt-tab. See how good you are juggling the games.

 :meeple:
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 12, 2015, 09:41:26 AM
I've been a bit busy lately, so haven't really had the time to set up my last 2 matches vs Farin and Quevy.

If any of those 2 are available, I will be ready to go tonight after 23.00 (gmt+1), and most of tomorrow during the day.

Thanks for the update Yall. Hopefully quevy and farin will both be able to make the most of this opportunity (and then play each other while they're at it!)

A bit off topic but it's related do this post in particular and not sure it warrants a full thread: Playing 3 carcassonne games at once using alt-tab. See how good you are juggling the games.

 :meeple:

This is something the German champion did at Essen last year I think. He played about ten games at once and walked between the tables taking his turn in each game before going back up to the top table and moving down them all again!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Andrew the Ambo on February 12, 2015, 06:14:06 PM
You can do it in chess and win half the games.  It is impressive to watch.  The secret is to reply your first opponents move in the second game etc. That way your opponents end up playing each other with you simply relating the moves. Would not work in Carcassonne due to the tile draw unfortunately. Although if you stacked the deck. ....
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: farin on February 13, 2015, 12:53:42 PM
Hi

sorry I am now on vacation with poor connection.
As I said in PM, I would like to finish all games asap. I will be home from Sunday (and I can play at sunday evening) I will check irc channel,
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 14, 2015, 08:44:58 AM
Another small update: (sorry in advance!)
I am so so soooo busy lately, and I'll be gone and without internet for 1 week from sunday to friday. I know I have 2 more open games, but I just don't have the time to finish them.
If it's needed to keep this going,perhaps giving me a loss on both, and for the scoring just get the average win scores of my opponents?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 17, 2015, 03:15:49 AM
@quevy @farin @Yall:
The Traders & Builders league has been running for a lot longer than I’d anticipated now and I’d really like to get it finished as quickly as possible. Especially since there is still the final round to play (i.e. Group A 1st vs Group B 1st down to Group A 9th vs Group B 9th) for everyone.

Yall has already offered to forfeit his two outstanding matches as he’s unavailable to play them, although I’m still very happy for him to play either/ both if the opportunity to do so arises. However, I think if quevy and farin cannot play each other by the end of this week then we will call it losses all round (0 points) and leave the score differentials unchanged. So please let me know what’s going on as soon as possible!

Obviously this isn’t ideal as I’d much rather all games be played as intended. But if this really is impossible, it isn’t fair to delay the league any further as we now have the Inns & Cathedrals league queuing up behind it with people waiting to start playing.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on February 18, 2015, 09:00:48 AM
We tried a couple of times to organize a game and I farin, unfortunately for problems we could, if we're lucky we can play our game tonight.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on February 18, 2015, 10:07:41 AM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/17bj2u.jpg)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 18, 2015, 02:07:51 PM
the lastest game is now finished.
Gratulations to you quevy.

So - here comes the final list.
What are you thinking about my decision how I did the x-score list with the final score?

Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on February 18, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
Did Yall mean that he will definitely not be able to play his last two games? What if we can wait one more week? Maybe he will find some time this or next weekend.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 18, 2015, 03:29:02 PM
the lastest game is now finished.
Gratulations to you quevy.

So - here comes the final list.
What are you thinking about my decision how I did the x-score list with the final score?

If a game is forfeited because neither player is able to play the other then the outcome should be a 0 - 0 loss to each player so that neither gets any league points from it or has their score differential affected. So in this case I don't think it is correct to remove those 6 league points from Yall as this leaves his overall total on 0 even though he won two matches. And also, it doesn't seem as though quevy or farin were desperate to make their games with Yall happen but Yall refused to play them, so I don't see that Yall shall be penalised so heavily in this case.

If Yall can play quevy and/ or farin at the weekend then these results can be accepted, but I don't think this stage of the competition should be allowed to continue into the following week as it isn't fair to everyone else...
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 19, 2015, 04:11:48 AM
I never intented to have points extracted, indeed.

If Quevy/farin are available I can play my games saturday or sunday evening (after 23.00) or monday (all day, before 21.00)

(Sorry once again, just been too busy)

Edit: If I can get JCZ running on my mac tonight, I can play after 19.00/19.30ish today as well (I'm still on holiday)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: jungleboy on February 19, 2015, 04:21:04 AM
Edit: If I can get JCZ running on my mac tonight, I can play after 19.00/19.30ish today as well (I'm still on holiday)

I use JCZ on a Mac and it's very easy to get it running.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 19, 2015, 07:28:28 AM
Got it running.
Quevy and farin, any chance you got an update on your schedule/available times?
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on February 19, 2015, 08:24:56 AM
Very good.
Send them PMs. You have better chances to reach them.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 19, 2015, 08:51:15 AM
Mails and PM's have been sent, so far:

Farin and I are playing saturday at 23.00
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 20, 2015, 08:42:46 AM
The two outstanding games have been arranged!

farin vs. Yall: 21/02/15 23:00 (CET)
quevy vs. Yall: 23/02/15 afternoon (CET)

Many thanks for making the effort guys, and good luck in your games!  :)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 21, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GW5CGcX.png) (http://i.imgur.com/GW5CGcX.png)
Yall vs Farin 216-152

Farin got alot of his meeples trapped very early, as well with his builder (which got stuck the whole game).

1 more to go!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 21, 2015, 02:46:56 PM
Congratulations to you Yall - sorry for you farin...

It was important that I have used negative points for my last x-score list (as a warning  C:-) ) - so we have one of the last 2 games finished.  >:D

The last one: Yall and quevy in the next days.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Leven on February 21, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
The last one: Yall and quevy in the next days.

And if I'm not mistaken then this last game will decide who will finish 4th in group B.
Currently I am standing there but either Yall or Quevy wins, the winner will overtake me. (And also Hounk will lose his current 5th place.)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Hounk on February 22, 2015, 02:58:43 AM
Yea, I noticed that before. Farin should have won against Yall and then Yall against quevy, then they all would have stayed behind us. Any other result brings one of them in front of us both. (Because Yall had a less negative secondary score then the two of us, which can only improve with two wins, and for quevy is a tie enough to get 13 points, while we each have 12.)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 22, 2015, 04:04:33 AM
Thanks and well done for arranging your game farin and Yall. Once the final game has been played, the ranking for Group B can be established and the "grand finale" round can take place to determine a final overall ranking!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 23, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DVTwjM3.png) (http://i.imgur.com/DVTwjM3.png)
Yall vs Quevy 148-192

After a while I thought the game was lost for me, until I got the main lead in the farm. Quevy was smart enough to get another farmer on it though, and blocked my final attempt to tie the score for the big city top left. Well played Quevy!

And there we go, the last game has been played in the group stage!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: quevy on February 23, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2mgrq1h.jpg)
The battle for the farm was interesting, you've locked me very well, I managed to equalize for a nap.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 23, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
Thanks Yall and quevy!  8) This completes Group B; final standings are shown below:

1st - MrNumbers: 21 (+284)
2nd - zone2: 18 (+197)
3rd - Jere: 18 (+99)
4th - quevy: 15 (-7)
5th - Leven: 12 (-39)
6th - Hounk: 12 (-40)
7th - Yall: 9 (0)
8th - farin: 3 (-230)
9th - Yellow: 0 (-264)

Which means that the final matches will be as follows:

Battle for 1st/2nd: danisthirty vs. MrNumbers
Battle for 3rd/4th: jungleboy vs. zone2
Battle for 5th/6th: Carcking vs. Jere
Battle for 7th/8th: Rosco vs. quevy
Battle for 9th/10th: ny1050220 vs. Leven
Battle for 11th/12th: SRBO vs. Hounk
Battle for 13th/14th: Decar vs. Yall
Battle for 15th/16th: B1nder vs. farin
Battle for 17th/18th: Andrew the Ambo vs. Yellow

Let's do it!  :blue-meeple: :(y)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: kettlefish on February 23, 2015, 09:27:38 AM
Here is now the final x-score list for the league B:
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: jungleboy on February 23, 2015, 10:08:09 AM
Thanks Yall and quevy!  8) This completes Group B; final standings are shown below:

7th - Yall: 9 (0)

Amazing that Yall's score difference was exactly 0.
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Jéré on February 23, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
Completing this tournament feels like an achievement in itself. Good job everyone! :)

...and finishing 3rd while being undefeated against 1st & 2nd creates some sort of paradox.  Interesting! :)
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: danisthirty on February 23, 2015, 12:58:33 PM
...and finishing 3rd while being undefeated against 1st & 2nd creates some sort of paradox.  Interesting! :)

Our entire group was a paradox! We had so many little triangles of x beating y, y beating z and z beating x that the whole thing made no sense at all! Your match against Carcking should be very interesting!
Title: Re: T & B League: Group B
Post by: Yall on February 24, 2015, 03:35:44 AM
Thanks Yall and quevy!  8) This completes Group B; final standings are shown below:

7th - Yall: 9 (0)

Amazing that Yall's score difference was exactly 0.

How nice would it be for me to tie Decar now?  ;)