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Title: Questions about Trees
Post by: jungleboy on April 15, 2016, 04:52:29 AM
Check out this house for rent just outside Carcassonne with a palm tree in the courtyard. Maybe the owners have the School expansion and tried to make it more realistic?!

https://www.ownersdirect.co.uk/accommodation/p8140352


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Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: Decar on April 15, 2016, 04:59:21 AM
Isnt that a fern?
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: jungleboy on April 15, 2016, 05:18:44 AM
Isnt that a fern?

It's close enough :P
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: asparagus on April 15, 2016, 05:25:05 AM
Isnt that a fern?

It's close enough :P

It looks a lot more like a palm tree to me - though I am not an expert.
However you do not need to be an expert to know that ferns and palm trees are about as closely related as clownfish and jellyfish.

The palm tree is a "flowering" plant and so has a lifecycle something like we expect from plants. Ferns are not flowering plants and their more primitive (that is more like the ancestors) lifecycle is totally dependent on water (except when they spread asexually).
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: hunnymonster on April 15, 2016, 05:56:37 AM
It looks a lot more like a palm tree to me - though I am not an expert.
However you do not need to be an expert to know that ferns and palm trees are about as closely related as clownfish and jellyfish.

I'm also far from expert horticulturally - but it looks like a cycad or a tree fern to me (possibly a cycas revoluta - which is confusingly known commonly as a "sago palm" - despite being a cycad)
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: asparagus on April 15, 2016, 05:58:52 AM
It looks a lot more like a palm tree to me - though I am not an expert.
However you do not need to be an expert to know that ferns and palm trees are about as closely related as clownfish and jellyfish.

I'm also far from expert horticulturally - but it looks like a cycad or a tree fern to me (possibly a cycas revoluta - which is confusingly known commonly as a "sago palm" - despite being a cycad)

Yeah that's possible. According to wikipedia
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Because of their superficial resemblance, they are sometimes mistaken for palms or ferns, but are only distantly related to either.


I regret not devoting my life to science, ;-(
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: dirk2112 on April 15, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
It looks like a palm tree to me.  There are thousands of different species of them, so it is really hard to tell in the photo.  Maybe we should have an "is this a palm tree?" poll.


I also know where I want to stay if I ever make it to Carcassonne.   :(y)

I just wanted to note that the palm tree is not surrounded in plastic flamingos nor does a sign hang from it stating, "It's 5 o'clock somewhere".  So you can't blame an American for this egregious landscaping choice.    ;)

Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: asparagus on April 15, 2016, 06:02:53 AM
It looks like a palm tree to me.  There are thousands of different species of them, so it is really hard to tell in the photo.  Maybe we should have an "is this a palm tree?" poll.

Facts are NOT determined by opinion polls.
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: hunnymonster on April 15, 2016, 06:05:51 AM
I regret not devoting my life to science, ;-(

Never too late to take an interest...
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: Decar on April 15, 2016, 06:16:31 AM
No Flamingos - No Palm tree  :(y)
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: asparagus on April 15, 2016, 06:20:12 AM
I regret not devoting my life to science, ;-(

Never too late to take an interest...

I do take an interest in science. In fact I need to know the answer now: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthisplant/comments/4ewnzt/carcassonne_outdoor_pot_plant_on_the_left/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthisplant/comments/4ewnzt/carcassonne_outdoor_pot_plant_on_the_left/)
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: dirk2112 on April 15, 2016, 06:42:51 AM

Facts are NOT determined by opinion polls.

Well you got me there. 

Maybe I should start a go fund me page to get the airfare necessary to put an end to this mystery.  I am willing to take one for the team and vacation do some research in France to get to the bottom of this.   ;)
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: Rosco on April 15, 2016, 07:17:28 AM
Palm all the way - same as all the palms in the south of spain.
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: dirk2112 on April 15, 2016, 08:16:06 AM


I do take an interest in science. In fact I need to know the answer now: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthisplant/comments/4ewnzt/carcassonne_outdoor_pot_plant_on_the_left/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthisplant/comments/4ewnzt/carcassonne_outdoor_pot_plant_on_the_left/)

Scratchinanitch - "It's a palm."

Mad_humanist - "Thanks. Any clues on how we tell?"

Scratchinanitch - "Easy. If you scroll further down the album to picture 11/20, it says there in the caption: "our palm tree.""


COMEDY GOLD!  Too bad I can't merit him. 

I merited Jungleboy for inadvertently starting the best thread of the day.   :(y)
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: jungleboy on April 15, 2016, 09:12:00 AM
I merited Jungleboy for inadvertently starting the best thread of the day.   :(y)

Ha - thanks! So some guy on reddit says it's a palm, so it's true. Therefore, palms grow in Carcassonne and the School is thus thematic. I wonder if we can find anyone on reddit who thinks the Darmstadt convention centre grows in Carcassonne?
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: dirk2112 on April 15, 2016, 09:35:22 AM
Also, thanks to the wonderful moderators who tirelessly keep things like this from getting out of hand. 

Really though, the thread should be "Questions about shrubs and grasses" as palm trees aren't really trees.   8)

Oh and don't ever let someone from the Southeastern US try to convince you that "Palmetto bugs" are anything other than cockroaches.   A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, but having a cute name for cockroaches is putting lipstick on the pig. 
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: asparagus on April 15, 2016, 10:02:03 AM
I wonder if we can find anyone on reddit who thinks the Darmstadt convention centre grows in Carcassonne?

Actually they accept gold (https://www.reddit.com/gold/about/) on reddit.  :)

Oh and internet wisdom says that for every conceivable ridiculous belief there is a clique on tumblr perpetuating it.
Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: jungleboy on April 15, 2016, 10:20:31 AM
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, but having a cute name for cockroaches is putting lipstick on the pig.

Blasphemy! Pigs not only increase the value of your farm, but they can be pretty cute after all.  :@  :@  :@

Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: Andrew the Ambo on April 15, 2016, 11:36:23 AM
From a country where ferns are native species, that ain't no fern.
It is a palm all the way.

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Title: Re: Questions about Trees
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2016, 08:20:21 PM
Now that it's been determined to be a palm tree lets get down to the juicy facts. Palm trees aren't really trees, they're grasses. The "bark" of the palm tree isn't bark, it's dead leaves. And that concludes what I remember from by bio 2 course. Stay tuned next time when we learn how long some tarantulas can live without food.