First question:1st turn I place a follower.2nd turn I place a builder, while at the same time completing the road or city. Therefore, the bulder is removed. As a result, I do not get my bonus turn on the next play.Correct or incorrect?
Second question:1st turn I place a knight in a city.2nd turn I place another city tile with the builder.3rd turn I place an additional city tile, but it's not directly connected to the city with the builder. I am placing it to extend the builder's city in an attempt to attach to an opponents city in a future move. Do I get my bonus turn even though this 3rd tile placement does not yet attach to my existing city with the builder?
Third Question:The annotated rules state - "If the road or city is not completed during the course of the double turn, the builder remains in play. The player may take double turns for as long as the road or city remains incomplete".This sounds too bizarre. If I'm reading it correctly, I can choose not to complete my road or city with a builder and therefore, continue taking double-turns for the rest of the game. Does this mean I can take double turns anywhere I choose or are my double turns restricted to the road or city the builder is on? Up until now I always thought the builder permits only one additional bonus turn, but the above rule contradicts this.
Thank you - Things are clearing up. One last question. I read somewhere that builders can be placed elsewhere on bonus turns if one of my followers occupies that road or city. In other words, I have an unfinished city with a builder and on a "bonus turn only" I can remove the builder without finishing the city and place it into another road or city that I add a tile for, that currently has one of my followers.Correct?Thank you.DW.
Quote from: deepwoods on March 19, 2013, 08:02:45 AMThank you - Things are clearing up. One last question. I read somewhere that builders can be placed elsewhere on bonus turns if one of my followers occupies that road or city. In other words, I have an unfinished city with a builder and on a "bonus turn only" I can remove the builder without finishing the city and place it into another road or city that I add a tile for, that currently has one of my followers.Correct?Thank you.DW.This is incorrect. Once your builder is on a feature, he is stuck on that feature until it is completed. The only way you can move a builder on a bonus turn is if you complete the feature on your first turn, thereby returning the builder to you, and then on your bonus turn you add to a feature you already have and then play the builder on this feature.
Just as an aside, could someone please confirm whether a bonus turn is allowed when a feature containing a builder is completed? For example, if I have a city with a builder in it and place a tile that completes the city, would I still get the bonus turn that would normally follow if I’d extended the city without completing it? Technically the city has been extended so it seems logical that the bonus turn should be allowed
but I know players who would say that no bonus turn is given if the city (or road) containing the builder is completed on the first turn.
Quote from: deepwoods on March 15, 2013, 06:12:31 PMThe annotated rules state - "If the road or city is not completed during the course of the double turn, the builder remains in play. The player may take double turns for as long as the road or city remains incomplete".IMO It should have been worded "The player may generate an extended turn on each of his turns that the feature containing the builder is incomplete." The extended turn is generated by extending the feature containing the builder. Keep in mind a chain reaction within a turn is not permitted. In other words, only one extended turn may be generated on any given turn.
The annotated rules state - "If the road or city is not completed during the course of the double turn, the builder remains in play. The player may take double turns for as long as the road or city remains incomplete".
In general, I think the practice of calling it a "double" turn is inaccurate and misleading. There are certain mechanics that clearly do not make it a true double turn. IMO the more accurate term is "extended". The builder generates an "extended" turn.
Started by DavidY
Started by lucash1891
Started by Rosco
Started by DIN0
Started by Carcking