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Carc Central Community => News and Events => Topic started by: danisthirty on September 21, 2016, 01:02:08 PM
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Yo dudes.
It’s been a fairly aggressive year so far in terms of the two expansion leagues that have been run. But hopefully we’ve all learnt a lot about how to play with Princesses, Dragons, Fairies, Magic Portals and Towers in the process, and hopefully most of us are still talking to each other (albeit only occasionally but I don’t think that’s anything to do with the tournaments).
So, with these two tournaments behind us it’s now time to face up to this year’s final challenge: The 2016 World Cup of Carcassonne Central!
As was the case in 2014 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=829) and 2015 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2012), the World Cup of Carcassonne Central this year will consist of a group stage (run like a mini-league with 4 or 5 players per group) followed by a knock-out stage with the top 2 players from each group qualifying to go through to the sudden death round. You won’t actually suddenly die if you lose a game in the knock-out stage (hopefully) but you will be eliminated from the competition whereas the victorious among us will progress through the quarter-final, semi-final and final-final!
A lot will depend on how many people are able to take part and I haven’t decided which expansions will be included at each stage of the competition yet either. But expect to see Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, Princess & Dragon, The Tower, Abbey & Mayor, Bridges, Castle & Bazaars, River 1 & 2 and most of the mini-expansions supported by the current version of JCloisterZone occurring at least once each! Stay tuned for more specific information.
Considering how long I’ve allowed previous tournaments to run on for, the plan is to get this one started before Essen which is now just over 3 weeks away. I will be being more ruthless about allowing slow-to-organise games to hold up the rest of the tournament this time as well, so be prepared to face losing by default if you don’t have time/ can’t be bothered to arrange your matches with your opponents (in other words, make sure you're read our Code of Conduct (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2700) and are prepared to stick to it as closely as possible)
I’d also like to point out that this will be the last Carcassonne Central tournament that I will be responsible for organising. This isn’t to say that there won’t be any future tournaments as these responsibilities will be taken over by our very own MrNumbers whose assistance to me has been of huge benefit over the last two and a half years and who has also organised and overseen several Carcassonne tournaments in real life.
That’s all I’ve got for now. Please feel free to share this open invitation with friends and family and encourage other people to take part if they could be a bit handy with the tiles. We had 40 participants last year and whilst I don’t expect to beat that this year it’d be good to see as many players taking part as possible which means players who are already taking part in the Welcome Tournament are very welcome to join this too!
Dan
:blue-meeple:
I’m in!
Current participants:
- danisthirty (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Flag_of_Europe.svg/33px-Flag_of_Europe.svg.png)
- MrNumbers (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Flag_of_Latvia.svg/44px-Flag_of_Latvia.svg.png)
- ny1050220 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/44px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png)
- Valheru (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg/45px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png)
- jungleboy (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Flag_of_Switzerland.svg/32px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png)
- Chuck (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Flag_of_Germany_%283-2_aspect_ratio%29.svg/44px-Flag_of_Germany_%283-2_aspect_ratio%29.svg.png)
- Leven (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Flag_of_Hungary.svg/44px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png)
- Andrew the Ambo (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg/44px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png)
- Hounk (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Flag_of_Austria.svg/44px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png)
- Chooselife (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Flag_of_Portugal.svg/44px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png)
- What If? (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Flag_of_Sweden.svg/44px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png)
- Halfling (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/44px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png)
- jma03 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/44px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png)
- Rosco (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Flag_of_Europe.svg/33px-Flag_of_Europe.svg.png)
- khalidqasrawi (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Flag_of_Europe.svg/33px-Flag_of_Europe.svg.png)
- Skane (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Flag_of_Latvia.svg/44px-Flag_of_Latvia.svg.png)
- JoeSesquipedalian (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/44px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png)
- aenima (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Flag_of_Italy.svg/44px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png)
- Jéré (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/33px-Flag_of_France.svg.png)
- Adrornalin (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Flag_of_Germany_%283-2_aspect_ratio%29.svg/44px-Flag_of_Germany_%283-2_aspect_ratio%29.svg.png)
- zone2 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Flag_of_Latvia.svg/44px-Flag_of_Latvia.svg.png)
- laura82 (Mrs jma03) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/44px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png)
- Grabushka (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Flag_of_Russia.svg/44px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png)
- CarcinFool (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/44px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png)
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Of course, I am in! :(y)
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I'm in!
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Count me in!
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I'm in, but go easy on me because I haven't actually played Carcassonne for a while.
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Well, I didn't plan to participate in a further tournament this year, due to scheduling problems in the Tower league.
But since this is the World Cup, I'll promise to to everything to be available!
So, count me in!!
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I'm in!
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I have added participant list with country flag to the original post (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2907.msg43048#msg43048).
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I'm in.
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Of course, I want to participate. With the caveat, that I have very few time till Oct, 2nd, and possibly also from Oct, 20th till Nov, 2nd. If this is no issue, I'm in.
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Everywhere You go there is always a Portuguese. :green-meeple: :green-meeple: :yellow-meeple: :red-meeple: :red-meeple: :red-meeple:
I'm In!!
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Can´t wait to lose against the elders, I´m so in!
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Where are all the Brits????
I'm in!
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I'm in!!
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I have some scores to settle. I AM IN!!!!!!
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I'd very much like to take part if at all possible please Dan.
kq :) :red-meeple:
p.s. I couldn't find anything in the rules about it, but would it be possible to play under a European flag?
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I would like an eu flag too
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`i.a.m.i.n. :violet-meeple:
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I'm in :green-meeple:
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p.s. I couldn't find anything in the rules about it, but would it be possible to play under a European flag?
I would like an eu flag too
Same.
We're at 17 players now which isn't bad going, hopefully we'll reach at least 20 though. A multiple of 4 would be quite nice but isn't critically important.
So, in view of the fact that I want to keep things moving and so won't be leaving this sign-up sheet open forever I'm going to suggest that we make the end of this week the cut-off date. There are however several people missing who I'm surprised haven't put their name down yet so I will be sending some PMs out where I know people have played in the past.
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Hi all,
I don't play in the CarcC World Cup 2016.
Also - if needed - I will help to "programm" the x-score list for the actual world-cup.
But I will not follow the games to fill in the score for all the games.
Please tell me, who like to do this work during the tournament?
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no one from Italy?!?!?
I must be in! ;)
(where is Quevy when you need him?!?!?) :D really... I have to call him to see if he is good...
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Please tell me, who like to do this work during the tournament?
No problem for me :) I can fill the tables with scores.
One note: I will be out of PC for one week in October (as some of us also) :D
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I'd like to participate. Thanks for adding me to the list (country: France of course!)
Note that depending on how long it takes to complete the competition, I might as well do like danisthirty and kettlefish and abandon ship...
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I'm in, of course! Thanks for informing and organizing :(y)
Until 16th Oct I have all the time to complete my games, just tell me and I'll show up. With beginning of 17th Oct I will only be available in the evening (german time zone).
Really looking forward for the competition :)
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I'm in! :blue-meeple:
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I'm sorry, I won't be participating in this year's tournament.
I'm very conscious of the delays I've inadvertently caused in previous tournaments which have aggravated other players.
I have other priorities that need my focus at the moment too; so I'd be worried I'd slow the tournament down.
I'd like to extend good luck to all the participants, especially thank Dan for his continual work & wish Mr Numbers all the best for his new role too!
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I am willing to do the stats for this tournament Kettlefish
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I have a problem in that I may not have any Internet connection for the next 2 weeks. If that is a problem for the competition then I will have to bow out.
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24 participants appears to be a good number (easy to divide). I suggest to close the registration as soon as we reach this number.
Is this thread only visible to "competitors"? If yes, why??? :-o
Will ask Grabushka if she is keen to join again this year.
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MrNumbers and Halfling,
when we know who will take part in this World Cup, then I will finish the x-score-list and will forward it to you both.
Then I will explain it to you - perhaps in the chatroom in the next few evenings.
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hi all, my girlfriend is interested in playing the World Cup.
these two months she would have available to play.
could join this competition ???
Thanks
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Yes, Grabushka is joining. She will represent Russia.
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What no Polish representatives? Is the title not being defended?
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Am I representing the US? I'm not American... Does that disqualify me from using the flag?
I suppose we want to label the countries where everyone lives so we have a rough idea of the time difference.
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I think everyone chooses his flag by himself. For example, Jéré could represent even 3 countries, and change them every year (which he did, actually :) )
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I think everyone chooses his flag by himself. For example, Jéré could represent even 3 countries, and change them every year (which he did, actually :) )
Yes, exactly. :(y)
What no Polish representatives? Is the title not being defended?
This I am not so sure about. I haven't heard anything from Merlin_89 since shortly before the Polish championship. I'm guessing maybe things didn't go in his favour and perhaps he is taking a short break? I hope very much that he will return in time to stake his place and defend his title.
Yes, Grabushka is joining. She will represent Russia.
Woohoo! :)
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CarcC - World Cup 2016:
ok - I have finished a blanc x-sxore list for 24 participants.
There are 6 groups (A - F) - each group has 4 participants.
The following list is only an example. I don't know which participant will come in which group. I just follow the names in the list at the first posting here in the topic.
But we still miss one participant - there are only 23 people till now who will play in the tournament.
What is with MrsNumbers or Mrs danisthirty?
glh510 and Safari - both can't play in the CarcC WorldCup 2016.
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I don't think we can hold on for specific people after this much time. Mrs danisthirty won't be playing again (she didn't like me trying to book her matches for her last time as she wouldn't do it herself!) so the final spot will go to the next person who claims it I suppose...
@jma03 - is your girlfriend still interested in playing? If so, you should get her to sign up and claim her spot as soon as possible!
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Would be great to start before Spiel in case it is possible to organise real games in person, there in Essen!
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Would be great to start before Spiel in case it is possible to organise real games in person, there in Essen!
My thoughts exactly. As long as the final place is filled this weekend I hope to get things going early next week.
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she is interested, we had problems to register the user in Central carccassonne.
today she will try again.
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I have received a message from jma03's girlfriend to say she would like to play but has been unable to sign up. She will be our 24th and final player of this World Cup.
Jma03 please assist her with getting her CarcC account sorted out. If it needs to be approved or anything like that please let me or one of the moderators know.
Everyone else, stay tuned for groupings!
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Hi danisthirty,
Mrs jma03 is still in the list (#22) - so we are still looking for the 24th player.
The tournament - it is possible to play in 4 groups (A - D)- each group has 6 players.
Here comes the example players list - but still - I don't know which player will come in the groups A-D.
I think such strong players and new players in one group is not fair.
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Mrs jma is the member laura82 here at CarcC.
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Here comes the example players list - but still - I don't know which player will come in the groups A-D.
I think such strong players and new players in one group is not fair.
See the post above yours:
Everyone else, stay tuned for groupings!
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Mrs jma is the member laura82 here at CarcC.
Seems the registration went thru. Is there anything else or shall we close this report?
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Is there still room? I'd like to participate again, if possible.
Please let me know - thanks!
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Is there still room? I'd like to participate again, if possible.
Please let me know - thanks!
You're in! Congratulations CarcinFool!
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Thx Dan!
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Hello, my name is Laura. I'm a Jacobo's girlfriend. I like this play, although I don't play a lot of at the moment. :yellow-meeple:
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Hello, my name is Laura. I'm a Jacobo's girlfriend. I like this play, although I don't play a lot of at the moment. :yellow-meeple:
Hi laura82,
nice to have you here after your problems with the registration at this forum.
In the next few days the tournament will start.
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Hi everyone. Sorry, I've not been keeping tabs on the forum recently (thanks for the PM Dan) or played Carc for a few months. It looks like I'm a little late to register my interest for this, so please bear me in mind should someone drop out and need replacing. Good luck all.
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Good to hear from you Rich! I hope all is well with you and family?
Sorry to have missed you; your name will be at the top of the list for if anyone drops out. ;)
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Hello again.
Because I want things to get going quickly with this, I've spent the last half hour or so arranging the groups for this tournament.
I did what I've done before where I got all the names and ordered everyone by current Elo rating. Then I took the top 4 names and put them in groups A - D. Then I took the next four names, shuffled them, and put them in groups A - D. Everyone else was assigned to a group completely at random.
The reason for the above is to avoid any "group of death" situations where too many of the stronger players end up in the same group. Of course, Elo is just an indicator and doesn't necessarily mean anything at all but it's proved to be a fair way of organising groups in the past and I'm happy to continue using it in this way in future.
So, without further ado, here are the groups:
GROUP A
Chooselife
Grabushka
jma03
jungleboy
ny1050220
What If?
GROUP B
Adrornalin
aenima
Jéré
Leven
Skane
Valheru
GROUP C
Andrew the Ambo
Chuck
Halfling
JoeSesquipedalian
MrNumbers
zone2
GROUP D
CarcinFool
danisthirty
Hounk
khalidqasrawi
laura82
Rosco
The advantage to having larger groups (6 players) is that everyone will get at least 5 games. So in this way, each of the groups will operate almost like a mini-league with everyone playing everyone else in their group. Points will be awarded in the same way as in our league competitions (2 for a win, 1 for a draw) and points difference (PD) will be used as a tie-breaker. The top 2 players from each group will go through to the knock-out stage...
I will create 4 new threads back on the World Cup forum (one for each group) and link to them from here. I'll announce there what expansions we'll be using for the initial group-round matches so stay tuned for more news coming soon! :) :(y)
Good luck everyone!
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GROUP A
Chooselife
Grabushka
jma03
jungleboy
ny1050220
What If?
Fun group! I could possibly play my game against Chooselife in person in Lisbon, but that would be 5 weeks away so it might be too late. Jéré, is Grabushka coming to Essen? If so I could play that game in person too!
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Hope I have a better showing this year than last. :-/
Of course I get placed in a group with DanIsThirty again..... ;-)
PS -- I like the larger groups!
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Let the hostilities begin! ;D
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Oh my!
The first player in my group just mentioned hostilities >:D
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GROUP A
Chooselife
Grabushka
jma03
jungleboy
ny1050220
What If?
Fun group! I could possibly play my game against Chooselife in person in Lisbon, but that would be 5 weeks away so it might be too late. Jéré, is Grabushka coming to Essen? If so I could play that game in person too!
Yep, she's coming too. The only thing is that she will attend the fair max 1 day, most likely saturday. Otherwise, maybe friday or saturday evening. Place where we stay is close to Zollverein.
I hope to play in person against Skane too! I'll be available Saturday all day. Alternatively, Friday or Saturday evening.
We should exchange phone numbers. Anybody else from A or B attending Spiel? If the list of people attending is still updated, please add me for Saturday too. Thanks!
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Yep, she's coming too. The only thing is that she will attend the fair max 1 day, most likely saturday. Otherwise, maybe friday or saturday evening. Place where we stay is close to Zollverein.
Oh cool, that sounds perfect. I will also attend only on Saturday, and I'll be free to play on Friday night (I arrive at about 8pm) or Saturday night, so we should try to make it happen. I'll PM you my number.
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Hello again everyone.
Apologies for the delay in bringing this update to you, hopefully it will have been worth the wait and should clear up any questions anyone may have about how the competition will be run:
Group stage
Every participant has been assigned to one of 4 groups (labelled A – D) and each group has 6 participants. Everybody in each group should play a single, head-to-head game against everyone else in their group individually. This means that everyone taking part in the World Cup will get to play 5 games at this stage of the competition.
Games
Games should be played online via JCloisterZone version 3.4.2 which can be downloaded here: http://jcloisterzone.com/builds/JCloisterZone-3.4.2.zip (http://jcloisterzone.com/builds/JCloisterZone-3.4.2.zip). You must be running the same version of JCZ as your opponent in order for the game to work (so let's all stick with 3.4.2) and please remember to unzip this before you attempt to run it as you will encounter difficulties connecting to a game otherwise! Alternatively, with many of us heading to Essen this year it may also be possible for some games to be played in person. If this is the case, please do so and be sure to post photos of the finished landscape!
In order that they can take place, online games require a host which may be one of the players, or even a third person who isn't taking part in the match. If neither you nor your opponent has the ability to host games directly, please ask if someone else in your group is able to host for you at the time of your scheduled match. Failing this, someone in the chat room (see below) may be able to host for you or there is an online server which can be used by selecting JCloisterZone's "Play Online" option.
In the event of either player losing connection while the game is in progress, the game should be saved so that it can be reloaded. There will normally be someone in the chat room who will guide you through how this can be achieved, but it is a relatively simple process...
Expansions
All games at the group stage should include the following expansions:
- Inns & Cathedrals
- Traders & Builders
- The River (1)
- The Phantom
(these can be selected on the pre-game screen where you choose a colour and enter your name).
Please make sure you are familiar with the way the River is played through JCloisterZone as it doesn't entirely fit our officially recognised rules. The difference is only very subtle but affects the play order depending on who gets to place the final river tile/ lake. This caused upset last year which resulted in this expansion being withdrawn from all subsequent games but I'm re-instating it this year on the proviso that players have a quick test game against an AI opponent (or other) and accept that you have been warned!
Please also ensure that the "Randomize playing order" checkbox is enabled/ ticked so that the starting player will be chosen at random.
Artificial Aids
One of the goals of the CarcC tournaments I've organised has always been to mirror the experience of playing Carcassonne in person as closely as possible. Obviously this could be rather difficult since we have competitors from all over the world taking part, so we use JCloisterZone or other online methods of play where playing in person simply isn't feasible (travel/ cost/ time/ money/ etc). However, JCloisterZone now includes a number of artificial player aids such as Farm Hints, Projected Scores and even a screen showing tile breakdown, none of which would be available to players playing in person with a physical copy of the game. For this reason, I urge all players to avoid using these features of JCloisterZone and to rely purely on their wits while their games are in progress. Deliberate failure to ignore this and make use of JCloisterZone's artificial aids is considered cheating so please respect the integrity of the competition and the honesty of your opponents by avoiding them at all costs!
How groups will be ranked
Players will be awarded 2 group points for a win or 1 group point for a draw so that an overall group-ranking can be established. "Points Differential" (total points scored by you minus total points scored against you in all games) will be used as a tie-breaker and the top 2 players from each group will go through to the knock-out stage.
Communication
I will send an email round to each group once the competition is live. Please use this and/ or Private Messages (PMs) as an opportunity to schedule suitable times for your matches. Don't just sign in to the chat room and hope that someone will be there and available to play! There will also be a dedicated thread for each group (which I will link to in the email I send you) which is intended for you to record scores, post screenshots (including score breakdown) and game reports so that your groups progress can be tracked.
Chat room
Our web-based chat page is a handy place to meet with your opponent before your match, or to chat with other members of Carcassonne Central. It can be accessed through your browser by following this link: http://sydby.com/carcassonne/irc/index.html (http://sydby.com/carcassonne/irc/index.html). You will usually be able to find a third-party host here as necessary, and can also seek technical support relating to JCloisterZone or crashed games in the unlikely event that you need it.
Prizes
Unfortunately I can no longer support a prize fund so we're playing purely for honour and bragging rights this year!
What happens next?
More information regarding the rest of the tournament (specifically the knock-out stage) will be disclosed as the group stage begins to wind down.
Please ask now if you have any questions. Because if you have a question, the chances are that others might have the same question and I want everything to be as clear as can be in advance of what's sure to be a fantastic competition for all involved!
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The forums-section for the world-cup is hidden for many members.
danisthirty,
did you update the members for the hidden forum who are participants of this tournament - for example laura82 and the members who only play the world cup tournament?
Greetings
kettlefish
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Thanks for the reminder! :(y)
Although there is nothing posted on the dedicated forum yet there soon will be. There were just two competitors who didn't have access to it though, and I have now added them both...
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The competition is now live!
Please find your dedicated group threads below:
Group A (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2921)
Group B (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2922)
Group C (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2923)
Group D (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2924)
Good luck everyone! :(y)
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I just realized, that merlin 89 is not aimed at this tournament.
something has happened?
It is a big surprise
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Yes it is a shame that he didn't enter but I haven't heard from him for a while so can only assume he is taking a break after his national championships...
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I sent a PM to Merlin just in case he had missed the thread.
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I sent a PM to Merlin just in case he had missed the thread.
I messaged him about a week ago. No response.
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Grabushka and I will play our Group A World Cup game in person at Essen on Saturday.
Here's my Basically Wooden travel box ready for the trip! Grabushka will be blue and I'll be green.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/8f24b67c3db2a56ca1cfe61cf2750249.jpg)
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I have the league tables up to date, so can carry on MrNumbers good work whilst Essen is in progress.
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Hi everyone. Sorry, I've not been keeping tabs on the forum recently (thanks for the PM Dan) or played Carc for a few months. It looks like I'm a little late to register my interest for this, so please bear me in mind should someone drop out and need replacing. Good luck all.
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Hi Rich_The_Fish,
It seems aenima cannot continue the tournament, he is out of group B after playing one single game. Would you like to take his place for the remaining 4 games of the group stage?
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Hi Leven, thanks for getting in touch. Sorry to hear aenima is unable to continue. Yes, I can take over the place and should be free several evenings next week (maybe even this weekend too). I'll send the group a PM tomorrow night once I know when I'm likely to be around. Cheers
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Hello Rich, I'm in group B and only free to play until Sunday 17:00, your UK time.
But, I wanted to say that we should wait for aenimas and dans 'official' statement, before we plan further things. Or?
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I've talked to Dan in Essen about this and I think that was the plan, but indeed an official confirmation would be good.
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Yes that's right, Dan explained that aenimas was unable to continue and RtF was on standby.
I think Dan's very busy today. I would recommend you schedule your game for Sunday if you can and I'm sure Dan will confirm when he's got a moment!
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Hi all.
Apologies for being less than my normal communicative self lately. As much as I loved going to Essen, catching up on everything I missed at work while I was away is proving to be far more time-consuming than I'd anticipated. :(
Regrettably aenima has had to pull out of the competition for reasons that I won't go into suffice to say that he has my full support. Obviously this leaves a space which I'd hoped Rich The Fish would be able to fill, and since Leven has already asked him to step in (he's always one step ahead of me!) and Rich appears to have accepted it sounds like we can continue.
Sorry for taking so long to make this official. Please join me in welcoming Rich on board and thanking him for enabling the group to continue unhindered.
Best of luck to you Rich! :(y)
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Thank you Dan... and sorry to all
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Danisthirty (or MrNumbers),
Just wondering if it would be possible to have a sneak peek at the tournament bracket tree diagram, to know or even more fun try to guess my/our opponents for the knock-out stage?
Thanks!!
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Danisthirty (or MrNumbers),
Just wondering if it would be possible to have a sneak peek at the tournament bracket tree diagram, to know or even more fun try to guess my/our opponents for the knock-out stage?
Thanks!!
The most probable scheme (at least, in QF) will be: A1-C2, B1-D2, C1-B2, D1-A2, as it was discussed here (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=829.msg11213#msg11213).
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I'm happy to go with what MrNumbers suggested, although it isn't what we did last year:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/KO_Layout_populated.png)
(left side) A1 vs. B2, C1 vs. D2
(right side) D1 vs. C2, B1 vs. A2
I will consult with MrNumbers and we will decide between us, but ultimately I haven't been keeping track of who is finishing where in each group and would be happy to go either setup as long as:
a) 1st place finishers play 2nd place finishers in the quarter-final games
b) the top 2 players from each group are on opposite sides to each other so wouldn't play again unless they both got to the final
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Hi again everyone,
Owing to the fact that there has been a drop-out in Group D, an extra player is needed to fill the gap. If you're not already taking part in this World Cup but feel like you might like to then please :-* respond here and/ or drop me a PM as we'd be very grateful to have you on board!
Dan :) :(y)
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The Quater Finals and the Semi Finals for the x-score lists in blanc:
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Thank you kettlefish
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(left side) A1 vs. B2, C1 vs. D2
(right side) D1 vs. C2, B1 vs. A2
Since there's no difference between this and the other model, this is the one we're going to go with 8)
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Hi again everyone,
Owing to the fact that there has been a drop-out in Group D, an extra player is needed to fill the gap. If you're not already taking part in this World Cup but feel like you might like to then please :-* respond here and/ or drop me a PM as we'd be very grateful to have you on board!
Dan :) :(y)
If I may comment on this... O:-) Since we have groups of 6 players, one less would not have a big impact no? Especially since Laura didn't play any games, not sure if she really needs to be replaced. All group members have to play an equal number of games, that's the most important in my opinion.
Or, if somebody decides to jump in, this person should have a very good availability and be able to play all 5 games in max 2 weeks or so... We've been playing for almost 1 month already.
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Hi again everyone,
Owing to the fact that there has been a drop-out in Group D, an extra player is needed to fill the gap. If you're not already taking part in this World Cup but feel like you might like to then please :-* respond here and/ or drop me a PM as we'd be very grateful to have you on board!
Dan :) :(y)
If I may comment on this... O:-) Since we have groups of 6 players, one less would not have a big impact no? Especially since Laura didn't play any games, not sure if she really needs to be replaced. All group members have to play an equal number of games, that's the most important in my opinion.
Or, if somebody decides to jump in, this person should have a very good availability and be able to play all 5 games in max 2 weeks or so... We've been playing for almost 1 month already.
I agree. However, if there's a chance that anyone does want to step in and join the competition at this late stage then I think they should be given the opportunity to do. If nobody is interested then we will just complete the group as a 5 rather than a 6.
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Ok sounds fair. :(y) But I'm going to maintain that not replacing is the safest option.
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I think it's time to announce last call for substitute player for World Cup's group D. For the sake of the progress of the tournament we could close the gate at the end of this weekend. Danisthirty?
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I have played as Halfling and am eliminated from group C. I could be the Phantom in another group!
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Haha, good Idea, Halfling! I could be a phantom, too... ;-)
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I think it's time to announce last call for substitute player for World Cup's group D. For the sake of the progress of the tournament we could close the gate at the end of this weekend. Danisthirty?
I agree. No point waiting forever, and none of the people I've contacted personally have responded. Group D will officially be a 5-person group from the start of next week if nobody else (who hasn't already played in another group) volunteers to jump in...
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Just a quick message to point out that I’ve asked MrNumbers to plan the next few stages of the competition in terms of which expansions will be used in the quarter-finals, semi-finals and final. Because he won’t be taking part in the knock-out stage of the competition and I will, I have asked him to do this as I didn’t want to give myself an unfair advantage over my fellow quarter-finalists (or to provide anyone with an excuse for accusing me of such!)
Please join me in thanking MrNumbers for helping out in this way. He assures me he will post details of the expansions that will be used in due course, so please stay tuned!
Dan
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Thanks Dan, but stop bribing MrNumbers with all these Russian promos... ;)
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Thanks Dan, but stop bribing MrNumbers with all these Russian promos... ;)
Hmm. It's a nice idea, but trying to bribe him with something he already has and I don't seems like a losing strategy... :o
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Thanks Dan, but stop bribing MrNumbers with all these Russian promos... ;)
Hmm. It's a nice idea, but trying to bribe him with something he already has and I don't seems like a losing strategy... :o
I was referring to this post (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1205.msg44356#msg44356) :)
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Thanks Dan, but stop bribing MrNumbers with all these Russian promos... ;)
Hmm. It's a nice idea, but trying to bribe him with something he already has and I don't seems like a losing strategy... :o
I was referring to this post (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1205.msg44356#msg44356) :)
This wasn't Danisthirty, who sent me these, but the same person, who will (or already did) send something similar to you ;)
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Seriously, Grab and I really need to know before Friday evening which expansions will be played for the knock-out stage because we are going to pack our suitcases and leave early saturday morning for 3 weeks. We'll bring the real game with us to play our match. We could also play our game before leaving if we know soon enough... so that we don't need to bring everything! Many thanks!
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Thanks Dan, but stop bribing MrNumbers with all these Russian promos... ;)
Hmm. It's a nice idea, but trying to bribe him with something he already has and I don't seems like a losing strategy... :o
I was referring to this post (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1205.msg44356#msg44356) :)
This wasn't Danisthirty, who sent me these, but the same person, who will (or already did) send something similar to you ;)
Who? Who? Father Frost? ;D
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2 other options to avoid blocking the competition for 3 weeks...
- We could play on the same laptop in "pass-and-pass" mode... but that's a bit lame...
- MrNumbers could choose expansions available on iOS (iPhone/iPad)
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I am just finished to choose the expansions for the knock-out stage and today I will announce them, so don't worry too much, Jéré :D
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The expansions are published (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2968.msg44388#msg44388).
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The expansions are published (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2968.msg44388#msg44388).
Perfect! Thanks!!!
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Since one purpose of the Elo rating is to serve as a predictor of the outcome of a match, let's see how well it has performed in the World Cup so far:
This shows how many games have been won by the player with the highest Elo out of the total number of matches for each group:
Group A: 9/15 (60%)
Group B: 13/15 (87%)
Group C: 8/15 (53%)
Group D: 8/10 (80%)
Total: 38/55 (69%)
Can we say that groups with low pourcentage were "tougher"...? hum, seems so, but this is open to discussion. Anyway, first time I compile these stats and the results are quite interesting.
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Group D: 8/10 (80%)
I don't think khalid lost any games in our group. The reason for his 80% score is probably just that we all played one game less than everyone else on account of having an unreplaced drop out.
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Group D: 8/10 (80%)
I don't think khalid lost any games in our group. The reason for his 80% score is probably just that we all played one game less than everyone else on account of having an unreplaced drop out.
Ups, sorry. Maybe I did not explain well (Excuse my poor English :( )
I meant the player with the highest Elo (just) before every individial match. It takes into account all the rating variations during the group stage. It is not one particicipant vs all the others but rather Player A (Elo X) vs Player B (Elo Y) and how many times one player (A or B) has won while having a greater rating. This is a pourcentage so the number of games doesn't really matter.
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Group D: 8/10 (80%)
I don't think khalid lost any games in our group. The reason for his 80% score is probably just that we all played one game less than everyone else on account of having an unreplaced drop out.
Ups, sorry. Maybe I did not explain well (Excuse my poor English :( )
You explained it perfectly the first time. Danisthirty's new moustache must be affecting his intelligence! emoji code13]
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Group D: 8/10 (80%)
I don't think khalid lost any games in our group. The reason for his 80% score is probably just that we all played one game less than everyone else on account of having an unreplaced drop out.
Ups, sorry. Maybe I did not explain well (Excuse my poor English :( )
You explained it perfectly the first time. Danisthirty's new moustache must be affecting his intelligence! emoji code13]
Wow. Thanks jungleboy. Your cruel taunt won't be quickly forgotten... :(
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Better to have a mustache and lost intelligence than never have had intelligence at all :(y)
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You explained it perfectly the first time. Danisthirty's new moustache must be affecting his intelligence! emoji code13]
Wow. Thanks jungleboy. Your cruel taunt won't be quickly forgotten... :(
You should have seen the unedited draft version of the taunt! :)
Better to have a mustache and lost intelligence than never have had intelligence at all :(y)
You must be proud that this was your 3000th post! :)