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Carc Central Community => The Marketplace => Topic started by: DrMeeple on April 10, 2019, 12:10:58 PM
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Hello everyone!!
I'm searching for 3 tiles of Darmstadt promo. Is someone interested in selling it? Reasonable price. I have the sixth official expansion to add to the offer if someone is interested too.
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Two things to note: 1) you really don’t want this joke to Carcassonne—it’s crap; and 2) it has never been available for a reasonable price—from the beginning it was too expensive to justify. We’re just gluttons for awful expansions. Save yourself time and money and pretend this expansion doesn’t exist.
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True. Thats what I thought all the time. Even when the expansion appears It seems too much expensive 12€. It's the most silly mini expansion ever. But I'm a collector of the old version of Carcassonne. And thats the unique thing that I need to complete them. Reasonable price to me it's 30-40€ for example. The only expansion that I don't have and never I will is the catapult. Worst than Darmstadt in my opinion.
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True. Thats what I thought all the time. Even when the expansion appears It seems too much expensive 12€. It's the most silly mini expansion ever. But I'm a collector of the old version of Carcassonne. And thats the unique thing that I need to complete them. Reasonable price to me it's 30-40€ for example. The only expansion that I don't have and never I will is the catapult. Worst than Darmstadt in my opinion.
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I disagree with you regarding The Catapult on one very important point: it has 12 new tiles, Darmstadt only has 3. In sheer tile value (which is really the only thing either expansion has going for it), Catapult wins hands down. I'd also argue that the art on the Catapult tiles is mostly medieval, even if the ridiculous catapult mechanism itself is, well, ridiculous. Darmstadt tiles all depict post-medieval structures. I would buy Catapult any day before getting Darmstadt (although I do own both).
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True. Thats what I thought all the time. Even when the expansion appears It seems too much expensive 12€. It's the most silly mini expansion ever. But I'm a collector of the old version of Carcassonne. And thats the unique thing that I need to complete them. Reasonable price to me it's 30-40€ for example. The only expansion that I don't have and never I will is the catapult. Worst than Darmstadt in my opinion.
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I disagree with you regarding The Catapult on one very important point: it has 12 new tiles, Darmstadt only has 3. In sheer tile value (which is really the only thing either expansion has going for it), Catapult wins hands down. I'd also argue that the art on the Catapult tiles is mostly medieval, even if the ridiculous catapult mechanism itself is, well, ridiculous. Darmstadt tiles all depict post-medieval structures. I would buy Catapult any day before getting Darmstadt (although I do own both).
For me the mechanism has more value than the design. Even the tiles contain buildings non medieval.
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By the way, nice review in the BGG!! ;)
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A shame that Darmstadt not available in new art. I miss those tiles.
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A shame that Darmstadt not available in new art. I miss those tiles.
Actually, the expansion itself is quite pathetic for them to consider a new edition. It was also exceptional for the 20th anniversary of the game fair in Darmstadt. I don't see it as something that can be extrapolated out of that context.
I believe that they will reedit the most typical expansions. But the truth is that I don't care ;D because that style of prototype that has removed the essence of Carcassonne doesn't go with me at all.
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I know it will never happen, but I still would like a new version, and tunnels and wind roses etc.
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As Whaleyland said, maybe they will take out another big expansion that is actually a compilation of several minis in the new edition: corn circles, tunnels, wind rose ... etc
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I wish this would come to pass, not holding my breath though.
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hahahahahahah have faith brother, have faith ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Even when the expansion appears It seems too much expensive 12€. It's the most silly mini expansion ever. But I'm a collector of the old version of Carcassonne. And thats the unique thing that I need to complete them. Reasonable price to me it's 30-40€ for example.
The most of promos (not minis) has been issued not for game process. The only purpose of them is to put the tiles into the box (envelop, packet) and put the box on the shelf; so the most of (real) collectors buy Darmstadt tiles for 100 € without the slightest doubt. For collectibles there is no concept of nominal price, it is important only the ratio of supply and demand for these items.
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Even when the expansion appears It seems too much expensive 12€. It's the most silly mini expansion ever. But I'm a collector of the old version of Carcassonne. And thats the unique thing that I need to complete them. Reasonable price to me it's 30-40€ for example.
The most of promos (not minis) has been issued not for game process. The only purpose of them is to put the tiles into the box (envelop, packet) and put the box on the shelf; so the most of (real) collectors buy Darmstadt tiles for 100 € without the slightest doubt. For collectibles there is no concept of nominal price, it is important only the ratio of supply and demand for these items.
With all my respects to buy it for 100€ seems very stupid but I understand that there are people able to spend that and more on a few tiles that for very little stock that is not worth that. Collectible items more ancient and exclusive than more than 50 years ago can be priced for about 100€... Not long ago they took out a limited edition of 650 € of carcassonne but that the real value of the product was 6 times less. If for example there were a carcassonne issue priced and really valued at € 1000, I pay for it without problem, don't get me wrong. But I see many users speculate with tiles and trying to make a lot more money than it really is worth. I respect it but I don't share it. I feel that the habitual consumers of carcassonne try to tease us many times.
There are also people who out of impatience or simple ignorance believe that they are buying something that there is practically only one copy in the whole world when it isn't true.
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Low supply, High demand.
Things fine their value.
As a seller you only need to sell to a single person, willing topay the price. I have no doubt someone out there would pay 100€ for this one.
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Low supply, High demand.
Things fine their value.
As a seller you only need to sell to a single person, willing topay the price. I have no doubt someone out there would pay 100€ for this one.
I know but I'll find another way more reasonable like usual I ever done...
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I've seen these go away on ebay for €125 in (I believe) 'like new' and 'very good' condition. Even unpunched, just the 3 tiles and the rules.
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I've seen these go away on ebay for €125 in (I believe) 'like new' and 'very good' condition. Even unpunched, just the 3 tiles and the rules.
I have the expansion and I must say, it's not worth the cardboard it was printed on. It is easily the worst Carcassonne expansion. And I include The Catapult in that list. I'm not getting rid of it, but I also am glad I don't have to contemplate spending €125 on it. It's just not worth it.
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I've seen these go away on ebay for €125 in (I believe) 'like new' and 'very good' condition. Even unpunched, just the 3 tiles and the rules.
I have the expansion and I must say, it's not worth the cardboard it was printed on. It is easily the worst Carcassonne expansion. And I include The Catapult in that list. I'm not getting rid of it, but I also am glad I don't have to contemplate spending €125 on it. It's just not worth it.
While I understand this community view, I do not necessarily share it. I do not have such harsh feelings towards Carcassonne Darmstadt, and do not consider it to be the "worst". The last word is in quotation marks, because many things can hide behind it. I know that people don't like Darmstadt because it is a small 3 tile expansion, inconsequential with very mundane rules, providing little benefit. On top of that it is one of the most expensive items on the list.
Let me tackle the price first - originally this item was quite cheap, in fact the entire sheet it came in (containing 5 different expansions) was very cheap. It is only because of the second hand market for the Carcassonne component (Darmstadt) and its collectible nature, that the price is so high today. You can still see other items from that sheet selling for relatively small prices (the highest being Catan Wedding tower for 19.49 eur).
What I want to say is that it should come as no surprise that a miniexpansion in old artwork with limited distribution would eventually reach such monetary heights.
Secondly the rules - people say this has uninteresting rules for a high price item, but you have to remember, nobody was expecting 3 tile expansion to have a huge impact in the first place. It was a meant to be a simple promotional item with just a little twist to spice it up. There are however many minor and even major expansions which promised something great, made themselves look promising and then did not deliver - sometime making them nigh unplayable (Cult, Tunnels). So the "disspointment" I think is far far worse for an expansion than a lack of interesting content, which has been forseen in advance. Catapult is silly yes, but it is meant to be silly and it made itself clear about it. Tower on the other hand promised to "take building in Carcassonne to the third dimension", but delivered... taking prisoners and selling them for ransom?? Right after another aggression-oriented expansion?
Lastly the artwork - it is beautiful! Why are people saying it is "low quality"? Is it because of the Darmstadium being entirely modern building? (that is not exactly true by the way - there is a reason for its inclussion).
So is Darmstadt the worst expansion? No. Is the high price of Darmstadt unfortunate? Yes. But it is a direct consequence of secondary effects known to occur in similar Carcassonne items.