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Title: Two questions C I
Post by: DIN0 on July 18, 2018, 03:33:31 AM
1. When placing a tile with tower foundation which completes a feature(e.g. small city), can I place a tower block and capture the opponents follower before he/she scores any points ? I would guess yes because tower blocks are placed in move the wood phase, which takes place before identification and scoring of completed features, correct ?

2. Do castles from exp.8 connect the fields even if the 2 tile city underneath would otherwise separate them ? For example if it is touching two other cities with its edges. Once again I would guess yes, as the castle token is clearly depicted with a farm surrounding it.

Edit: Well I actually found the answer to question number 2, but it just seems illogical to me using the same argument.
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Decar on July 18, 2018, 03:49:32 AM
The tower phase happens during the "place wood" phases - scoring happens afterwards.  You may capture before the feature is scored.

Yes - both it's connected to farms - could it be connected to only one?  in which case which one?
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: aenima on July 18, 2018, 03:56:42 AM
I don't understand... Do you wont to connect two fields placing a castel?

you can't do it. S_CAR v7.4 pag 100 point 5
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Decar on July 18, 2018, 04:29:49 AM
Maybe I misunderstood the question -

Like in the rules: does this image have 1 or 2 farms?
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: DIN0 on July 18, 2018, 10:31:43 AM
Maybe I misunderstood the question -

Like in the rules: does this image have 1 or 2 farms?
Yep, that's exactly what I mean.
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: aenima on July 18, 2018, 11:12:04 AM
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Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Willem on July 18, 2018, 11:46:20 AM
The rules for the expansion state 'castles seperate fields the same way towns do', as also found in the S-CAR page 100
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: DIN0 on July 19, 2018, 04:13:44 AM
Thank you for your answers  :(y) :black1-meeple:
There was no mention of castles separating the fields in my version of the rules, but I found it  in CAR.
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Decar on July 19, 2018, 08:24:05 AM
The new edition was explicit here:

https://images-cdn.zmangames.com/us-east-1/filer_public/f4/bc/f4bc7284-0193-4abe-b0c9-0706b8ebf34f/carcassonne_exp8_rules.pdf

"Castles separate fields, just like roads or cities."
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Just a Bill on July 20, 2018, 11:47:22 AM
Hmm, so why on earth didn't they make the tokens 45 mm wide and run the castle art to the edges? Showing field grass connecting the fields on both tiles communicates the exact opposite of the design intent.

(Yes, this is rhetorical. I just don't understand why game publishers think it's a good idea to let the art contradict the gameplay.)
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Decar on July 22, 2018, 02:36:57 AM
Yep, had the same thought. I thought it added a nice tactical twist being able to merge farms.  The alternative would be to make the castle tokens smaller. So they fit inside the walls of the city. But there's probably too much variance to make that work.  So they could have added it to the perimeter of the castle token.
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: totor66 on July 22, 2018, 05:50:00 AM
Is that “fixed” in CII or are the castle token the same size and/or design ?
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: Decar on July 22, 2018, 07:27:24 AM
sort of fixed:

(https://images-cdn.zmangames.com/us-east-1/filer_public/a1/38/a1383580-5d6c-4a2e-a609-034e18658831/zm7818_castlescore.png)

Taken from Z-man's online description
Title: Re: Two questions C I
Post by: DIN0 on July 23, 2018, 06:17:06 AM
Hmm, so why on earth didn't they make the tokens 45 mm wide and run the castle art to the edges? Showing field grass connecting the fields on both tiles communicates the exact opposite of the design intent.

(Yes, this is rhetorical. I just don't understand why game publishers think it's a good idea to let the art contradict the gameplay.)
Well that's exactly where I was coming from.