Quote from: Meepledrone on November 23, 2020, 11:43:01 AM* Step 2B-2: If your phantom is in your supply and you decide not to place it, you may protect a meeple.Quote from: Vital Pluymers on November 23, 2020, 11:54:07 PMIn my opinion, protecting a meeple placed in a previous turn is just another Move the Wood option like e.g. building another tower piece, placing the fairy next to one of your meeples, placing a meeple on one of the WoF spots, etc. The principle is always the same: If you decide not to place a meeple, you can do one of those mentioned actions instead.However, none of those mentioned actions can be chosen as a substitute for the phantom in Step 2B-2 if you still have the phantom in your supply and decide not to place it. So, to conclude, you cannot protect a meeple in your second phantom turn (Step 2B-2).I'm understand @Meepledrone's solution. His solution is simillar to Flying machine or Magic portal. When not used in Step 2B-1 you can youse it in Step 2B-2 with Phantom.Also understand @Vital Pluymers' solution. Whis is looking to rules more strict where Place Wood phase is not Place Phantom phase ;-)
* Step 2B-2: If your phantom is in your supply and you decide not to place it, you may protect a meeple.
In my opinion, protecting a meeple placed in a previous turn is just another Move the Wood option like e.g. building another tower piece, placing the fairy next to one of your meeples, placing a meeple on one of the WoF spots, etc. The principle is always the same: If you decide not to place a meeple, you can do one of those mentioned actions instead.However, none of those mentioned actions can be chosen as a substitute for the phantom in Step 2B-2 if you still have the phantom in your supply and decide not to place it. So, to conclude, you cannot protect a meeple in your second phantom turn (Step 2B-2).
Protecting the phantom when placing it may be possible, but the possibility to protect other meeples insted in step 2b-2 doesn't seems to respect the intended rule to me
Hi guys!I think you all are absolutely, right!I was totally carried away by the wording (although my initial interpretation was the same as you)... protecting other meeples is intended for Step 2B-1 only. So the bottomline would be as follow:The rules do not limit the number of meeples you may protect during the placement of a tile for 4 points each. So you could protect a wooden meeple and your phantom... This is a placement option.Additionally, each time you do not place a meeple in Step 2B-1, you can protect a meeple already placed (in a previous turn). In the great scheme of things this means:* Step 2B-1: If you do not place a meeple or perform any other action part of this step, you may protect a meeple.* Step 2B-2: Even if your phantom is in your supply and you decide not to place it, you may not protect a meeple.Both steps should be skipped if you removed a knight with a princess tile.Thanks to all for the correction!
No problem!Discussing the rules is always fun... We have to do this more often
Quote from: Meepledrone on November 24, 2020, 06:09:21 AMHi guys!I think you all are absolutely, right!I was totally carried away by the wording (although my initial interpretation was the same as you)... protecting other meeples is intended for Step 2B-1 only. So the bottomline would be as follow:The rules do not limit the number of meeples you may protect during the placement of a tile for 4 points each. So you could protect a wooden meeple and your phantom... This is a placement option.Additionally, each time you do not place a meeple in Step 2B-1, you can protect a meeple already placed (in a previous turn). In the great scheme of things this means:* Step 2B-1: If you do not place a meeple or perform any other action part of this step, you may protect a meeple.* Step 2B-2: Even if your phantom is in your supply and you decide not to place it, you may not protect a meeple.Both steps should be skipped if you removed a knight with a princess tile.Thanks to all for the correction!Seems perfect to me!
Each time you do not to place a meeple on the tile you just have placed, you may protect one of your meeples standing on tiles for the cost of 2 points.
QuoteEach time you do not to place a meeple on the tile you just have placed, you may protect one of your meeples standing on tiles for the cost of 2 points.
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