Also there's been a terminology/category overhaul for the figures.
Also there's been a terminology/category overhaul for the figures.
Carcassonne | Carcassonne II |
Roads | Roads |
Cities | Cities |
Cloisters | Monasteries |
Farms | Fields |
- | Gardens |
Pennants | Coat of Arms |
Carcassonne | Carcassonne II |
Thiefs | Highwayman |
Knights | Knights |
Monks | Monks |
Farmers | Farmers |
- | Gardener |
- | Acrobat |
Prisoners | Prisoners |
Tower Closer | Tower Closer |
You seem to of forgotten the Big Top and the Animal Tokens(The ones with animal and a number on them)Ahh - thank you - I will update my postings.
Just a couple of other things I've thought of; I think that Count, King & Robber comes with scoreboard tokens* (to keep track of how big the largest city /road was) as well as tiles (to keep track of who built the largest city/road)You seem to of forgotten the Big Top and the Animal Tokens(The ones with animal and a number on them)Ahh - thank you - I will update my postings.
Meeples:
- Meeple
- Big Meeple (not used as an Artist)
- Ringmaster (not used as an Artist)
- Phantom (the Phantom was published for the classical Carcassonne game, but it can also be used for the Carcassonne - New Edition)
EDIT: I looked up the German rules for Expansion 3 (where this is defined) and ran the paragraph through Google translate. Here are the comparisons: English rules: All figures that are used like meeples (abbot, large meeple, mayor, and wagon) may be placed via the magic portal. German rules: Figuren, die eine ähnliche Funktionen wie ein Meeple (Abt, großer Meeple, Bürgermeister oder Wagen) haben, dürfen den Zaubergang ebenfalls nutzen. Google translation of German rules: Characters that have similar functions as a Meeple (Abbot, Great Meeple, Mayor, or Carriage) may also use the casting spell. To my surprise, the German rules actually make a slightly wider separation ("similar functions" is a bit further from "used like"). In any case, this confirms (in both languages) that abbots, mayors, wagons, and big meeples are not meeples, but rather are figures that have similar functions as/are used like meeples. |
The Big Meeple is a meeple see page 24 from the BigBox 6 (published in 2017).
Does this mean that wagons, mayors, ringmasters, etc. are also officially Meeples? Or only big meeples and phantoms?Yes they are meeples, but look into my list above where I put the differences between meeples with almost full functions like the normal meeple and the others with less functions than the normal meeple.
Just a couple of other things I've thought of; I think that Count, King & Robber comes with scoreboard tokens* (to keep track of how big the largest city /road was) as well as tiles (to keep track of who built the largest city/road)Thank you for this information. First I put only the pieces made from wood into my list. I have updated my list. Yes the list is for CC II.
*I think this might just be for Carc 2 (which is obviously the topic of this post)
Even More, Stuff I've Thought Of :)Thanks again, I've put the information into my updated list.
Bag
Score tiles
Abbey tiles
2*3 City of Carcassonne tiles (two of)
Goods tokens
Things That Were Incorrect In Other Posts C:-)
Messanger (this was mentioned in Just a Bill's and kettlefish's posts as a woman meeple but is just called a "messenger" in the Big Box rules
Witch (spelt as "whitch" in kettlefish's post
7. Only the fairy is actually defined in the rulebooks as both a "special figure" and a "neutral figure." The dragon, tower piece, and bridge are left undefined, but I list them here because their neutrality is obvious. Whether or not they were intended to be also "special figures" is uncertain, but if the fairy is our precedent then that would make the most sense. Thus here I am documenting not what was actually written but what (probably) must have been the intent. It would be advisable for the rulebooks to clean this up in future printings.When I did the correction reading for the German rules - there were first also the text "special figure" - but with the correction is the correct form in the German rule "neutral figure". I think that the HiG publisher gaves the rules for translation to Z-man before we corrected that sentence in the German rules.
6. Here I am taking the texts for the fairy as a precedent-setter and assuming that all future neutral figures will also be special figures; thus my inference that this is a sub-category.Neutral figures are never a sub-category of the special figures, because the neutral figures have no players colours.
5. Oddly, the pig has rules for where it deploys, but not how/when. This looks like a copy/paste/edit error from the CAR that missed some things and wasn't proofread.The German rule stays clear that a pig can be placed onto a farm/field (German: Wiese=meadow) when there is still an own meeple onto that farm. That means that a meeple as a farmer was placed in a previous turn of that player.
4. This term is introduced in expansion 2 as a non-meeple category for the builder and pig. Unfortunately, it seems they forgot the term existed in later expansions when defining the dragon, barn, shepherd, etc.You can find the definition of figures like the dragon, barn and the shepherd iin the BigBoxes CC I.
I think that the HiG publisher gaves the rules for translation to Z-man before we corrected that sentence in the German rules.
The German rule stays clear that a pig can be placed onto a farm/field (German: Wiese=meadow) when there is still an own meeple onto that farm. That means that a meeple as a farmer was placed in a previous turn of that player.
You can find the definition which figures are neutral figures in the BigBoxes CC I.
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You can find the definition of figures like the dragon, barn and the shepherd iin the BigBoxes CC I.
How can I help with clarification of rules if you don't use the correct function of all the figures?