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Re: Expansion League #3 - Sign Up Here!
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2015, 04:24:28 PM »
But surely any meeple on the same tile is next to the fairy?

No, they aren't.
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Only one follower can be "next to" (or connected to) a fairy. Thus, only one follower will receive points from the fairy ... Even if another follower is placed in the same feature on the same tile (as with the Flying Machines), this would not be considered "next to" the fairy.

An interesting consequence of this rule is that a player may move the fairy within the same tile, next to another follower.
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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2015, 08:38:53 PM »
But surely any meeple on the same tile is next to the fairy?  The tiles are not that big.

No matter the merit or outcome of the argument, I just love this quote.  :(y)  So far, this is my favorite quote of the year!! Thanks for being cool Rosco!   O0
I just drew the perfect tile for my MonKnighThieFarmer!

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« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2015, 08:12:23 AM »
It seems that the RGG rules only care about whether the fairy is on the tile where you have a follower in a scoring feature, even though your follower(s) is/are not the majority and consequently not scoring.
I personally prefer this version to the ZMG rules which specifically requires the fairy to award one follower. If the fairy only awards the one next to it, why would it protect others in the same tile when the dragon is around. Anyway, this doesn't make a sound argument...
We have been assuming the RGG rule as our house rule, if not official. The only circumstance I can imagine where the ZMG has to be cited to resolve an issue is: my opponent use the flier or portal to land a follower in the same tile and feature where I have follower and I finish that feature right away.
In addition, I think the Carcassonne in iOS uses the RGG rule. Correct me if I'm dreaming about this.  ;)

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« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2015, 09:40:31 AM »
If the fairy only awards the one next to it, why would it protect others in the same tile when the dragon is around. Anyway, this doesn't make a sound argument...
Because the dragon fears the fairy. It will not enter the tile, where the fairy is.

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« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2015, 12:21:08 PM »
Now - it is enough talk about the rules for the Dragon or the Fairy.

As danisthirty said - this great expansion doesn't run fine at JCloisterZone.
It makes not sense to play an online league when the software doesn't work correctly.
That means the next league is not the Princess&Dragon.

This new league #3 will start with an expansion which runs better than Princess&Dragon.

League #3 - Abbey&Mayor

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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2015, 01:45:40 PM »
The participants for the expansion league #3 -Abbey&Mayor:

1.   danisthirty
2.   Chooselife
3.   berchio
4.   MrNumbers
5.   zone2
6.   rfielder
7.   Leven
8.   Paul
9.   jma03
10.   Rosco
11.   Jéré
12.   quevy
13.   aenima
14.   AndrewTheAmbo
15.   monwil
16.   Hounk
17.   Decar
18.   B1nder
19.   Carcking
20.   ny1050220
21.  ? kettlefish ? - I am not sure - I'd like to play with Princess&Dragon...

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« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2015, 01:48:44 PM »
If we are 21 participants - then it is possible to play again in 3 groups - each group with 7 players. That could be again groups A-C.

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« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2015, 03:52:17 AM »
I take it from the fact that most recent comments here have been about fairies that generally people are happy to play with Abbey & Mayor instead of Princess & Dragon? With this in mind, and since it seems that everyone who’s going to has signed up already, my plan is to get the league started from the beginning of next week (18th May) as I won’t be around at all this weekend to oversee things or host for anyone.

I will define 3 groups of 7 (21 players) or 4 groups of 5 (20 players) depending on whether kettlefish intends to play, and post the groups on Sunday evening along with the rules and tournament summary for anyone who hasn’t taken part before. Basically though, it will run in exactly the same way as the Inns & Cathedrals league in terms of 2 points for a win, 1 point for a draw and then final group membership determined by initial group ranking.

So, not long to go now. Watch this space!  :)

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« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2015, 05:08:28 AM »
What about 2 groups of 10?
Just lay the damn tile!

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« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2015, 06:09:15 AM »
Logistically, it's better to play more rounds of less players - maybe if we keep the doors open for a little longer 6 groups of 4 (or 4 groups of 6) would be nice.  ???

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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2015, 11:48:00 PM »
We will have 3 group - each group with 7 players = total players 21.

Today is the last day to play some test games (weekly online games) before the new league starts.

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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2015, 02:07:35 AM »
I think this time it would be good for each group - that each group are mixed together with participants outside of Europe.

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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2015, 02:11:03 AM »
My main interest will be to set out groups that are evenly matched in terms of ability so that everyone has an equal chance to do well. This can be a bit hit and miss, but the ELO ratings that Jere has been calculating will be very helpful. New participants will be distributed between the groups randomly (at the moment I think there are three new players so it will be one per group)...

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« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2015, 02:17:30 AM »
In the IC league the group B was around a month earlier finished than the groups A and C, because in group B were only participants from Europe. I think all groups need at least one or two participants from other Continents.

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« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2015, 02:26:45 AM »
In the IC league the group B was around a month earlier finished than the groups A and C, because in group B were only participants from Europe. I think all groups need at least one or two participants from other Continents.

Yes but this was unintentional. There are only 4 (I think) players from outside of Europe so it isn't inconceivable that the same thing could happen again. I don't see the benefit in spreading them around for the sake of it.


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