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Title: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on May 18, 2015, 06:36:20 AM
Challenge Matches (Red and Black levels): in order to qualify for membership of the order at either of the top two levels (Red and Black), you must win two "challenge" matches against players at the same or higher membership level as yourself. So once you reach the Blue level you may publically challenge any other Blue, Red or Black member to a match and that member must respond to your challenge within a week to arrange a suitable date/ time for your match (there will be a special thread for issuing challenges, arranging matches and posting results). Challenge matches are base-game only and decided on a best of 3 games basis, and you can't challenge the same opponent more than once per calendar month.



This is the special thread to issue challenges, arrange matches and post results.  :blue-meeple: :red-meeple: :black-meeple:

Happy challenging!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on May 18, 2015, 06:38:59 AM
Challenge match: danisthirty vs. Rosco (May)

Game 1
I started this game feeling much too confident and duly set about trapping as many of Rosco’s meeples as possible without much consideration for anything else. I paid the price for this though, as it distracted my attention from a smallish but rapidly growing city which started out as mine but which was quickly tied, then taken over, then completed by Rosco for around 20 points! I could try to blame this on the tiles I drew, but in truth he did an excellent job of building the city so defensively that I simply couldn’t get back into it. It wasn’t the start I was hoping for in any case...

Being very much on the back foot, I suppressed my immediate urge to do something drastic and continued calmly by taking a few small cities and short roads wherever I could, thus reducing my points deficit to something a little less painful thanks to my earlier trapping efforts hindering Rosco from building his lead too much. He was the first to claim the main farm though, and subsequently foiled two of my attempts to connect my own farmers to it which resulted in both of them ending up on a secondary farm serving three cities.

My break came with a fffr (cloister with road) tile which connected my first farmer onto Rosco’s farm. I placed a second farmer on the outside of an adjacent city so that it could be joined from either side but Rosco chose not to block this and used his next tile to develop one of his cities instead. My next tile allowed me to join my second farmer with just a few tiles left to place and this combined with my secondary farm enabled me to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat (even if it was by just 4 points).

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rosco_may_game1_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rosco_may_game1_map.png)


Game 2
As the game was opening out I was doing my best to make Rosco’s life as difficult as possible (as usual). I tried to block a city he was building but he scuppered my attempts to do so and ended up needing a ccrr tile to complete it. Only one of these tiles had been placed at that point so we both knew that there were four more to come, and over the course of the game I drew three of them and placed them elsewhere (obviously).

As the game drew to a close there was very little between us. We were sharing a city and a farm with two meeples each on both features, and our remaining meeples deployed such that I had a lead of just 2 or 3 points with two tiles to go. Unfortunately for me, my last tile was a crfr which meant Rosco got the final ccrr tile he needed to complete his city and win the game. I felt like I’d been unlucky in this respect, but in reality the fact that I required all four of the four remaining ccrr tiles suggests it would have been incredibly unlucky for Rosco if he hadn’t drawn at least one.

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rosco_may_game2_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rosco_may_game2_map.png)


Game 3
I got off to an awful start in this game. I trapped wherever I could, but whatever I did Rosco always seemed to draw the tiles he needed to escape from my evil clutches. After he completed two fairly valuable cities I had slipped behind by around 20 – 30 points and was struggling to get back into the game, especially once he extended a city of mine such that it became impossible to complete and trapped my knight in the process. I think even Rosco felt sorry for me at this point!

However, I was the first to claim the main farm and so focussed primarily on growing this as it was my best chance of winning some decent points for myself. It didn’t take Rosco long to get a farmer of his own on though, and when I attempted to win it back he negated this by placing another farmer of his such that both would be joined on by the same tile. With a meeple in hand, I bided my time to win the farm back and eventually made a great opportunity to do so, connecting my farmer with my next tile and winning back my majority. This combined with a couple of last-minute cities, Rosco’s inability to draw a ccxx tile to complete a city of his own, and a nice little road built mostly by Rosco but which was open to be claimed with my final meeple all added up to a surprisingly good win for me which didn’t reflect how close the majority of the game had been, or how surprised I was when I realised I could still win!

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rosco_may_game3_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Rosco_may_game3_map.png)


Overall, all three games involved Rosco building up what always seemed at the time like an insurmountable lead (20+ points) but which I was usually able to chip away at. I won the main farm outright in both of the games I won so this obviously helped, but my first victory was by a much narrower margin than my second even though I generally felt much more in control throughout the first game (mostly due to blind, unjustified confidence).

Easy to say as the overall winner, but these were three of the most enjoyable yet challenging games I’ve played for a fair while. Thanks to Rosco for putting up such a good fight and for making me work so hard for those wins (and the loss)!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: MrNumbers on May 29, 2015, 03:25:46 PM
Challenge match: MrNumbers vs. Rosco (May)

Tonight I had 2 thrilling challenge games with Rosco. It's too late here now to write a full review, so I will do a short comment.

Game 1
Till the very end of the game I was thinking I will loose the game. Only the luck of the draw ("unluck" for Rosco) saved the game for me. We both were out of meeples in the end, and if Rosco drew some tile to complete his cloister, he would free a meeple and earn some points, for example, from upper farm.

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/Rosco_challenge1_score.JPG)

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/Rosco_challenge1_board.JPG)

Game 2
This game was all about farm. Rosco blocked 2 meeples of mine just after 7 tiles. But later he made the critical mistake, when he didn't connect his lower left farmer, when he had a chance to do so. After that I blocked this connect attempt, Rosco left out of meeples, but I continued to earn with my only meeple.

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/Rosco_challenge2_score.JPG)

(http://www.carcassonne.lv/CarcC/Rosco_challenge2_board.JPG)

With that challenge match and my earlier win over Dan I fulfilled the requirements for the Red Order :red-meeple:
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on May 29, 2015, 11:16:59 PM
Congratulations MrNumbers! Bad luck Rosco, but it looks like it was another very hard-fought match...

(and well done both of you for giving up the Red meeples!)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on August 20, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
I've been meaning to upload details of these challenge matches for far too long, but tonight I finally got round to it. ;D

A loss against MrNumbers combined with his win against Rosco (posted earlier) gave him the two wins he needed to reach Red. My win against jungleboy combined with my win against Rosco (also posted earlier) gave me two wins too. My loss against MrNumbers and my win against jungleboy are posted below:

Challenge match: danisthirty vs. MrNumbers (April)

Game 1

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MrNumbers_april_game1_scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MrNumbers_april_game1_map.jpg)


Game 2

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MrNumbers_april_game2_scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MrNumbers_april_game2_map.jpg)


Challenge match: danisthirty vs. jungleboy (April)

Game 1

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_april_game1_scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_april_game1_map.jpg)


Game 2

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_april_game2_scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_april_game2_map.jpg)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on October 30, 2015, 12:36:43 AM
Challenge match: danisthirty vs. jungleboy (October)

Game 1

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_october_game1_scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_october_game1_map.jpg)



Game 2

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_october_game2_scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_october_game2_map.jpg)



Game 3

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_october_game3_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_october_game3_map.png)



Summary so far:

April
jungleboy (:blue-meeple:) vs. MrNumbers (:blue-meeple:) (2:0 to jungleboy)
danisthirty (:blue-meeple:) vs. jungleboy (:blue-meeple:) (2:0 to danisthirty)
danisthirty (:blue-meeple:) vs. MrNumbers (:blue-meeple:) (2:0 to MrNumbers)

May
MrNumbers (:blue-meeple:) vs. Rosco (:blue-meeple:) (2:0 to MrNumbers - Red level achieved for MrNumbers!)
danisthirty (:blue-meeple:) vs. Rosco (:blue-meeple:) (2:1 to danisthirty - Red level achieved for danisthirty!)

October
danisthirty (:red-meeple:) vs. jungleboy (:blue-meeple:) (2:1 to danisthirty)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on October 30, 2015, 04:41:21 AM
If I decide to avoid danisthirty and challenge Rosco instead, could the first game also count as a LMS game? Or should they all be separate?
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on October 30, 2015, 07:54:33 AM
If I decide to avoid danisthirty and challenge Rosco instead, could the first game also count as a LMS game? Or should they all be separate?

Yes, absolutely. The first game of my challenge match with MrNumbers in April also counted towards the Carc Ladder so I don't see why you shouldn't do the same with the LMS also... :)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Rosco on October 30, 2015, 10:55:01 AM
Challenge accepted!   
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on November 02, 2015, 01:22:37 AM

Challenge accepted!

Great! If you're free this week I should be available every night except Tuesday.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on May 07, 2016, 12:47:09 AM
Danisthirty, I challenge you!  ...and jungleboy too!!  lets start with you too as we also have the option to play on the iOS platform, though JCZ is totally fine too.

I'm not so busy these days so let me know!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on May 08, 2016, 06:06:40 AM
Challenge against jungleboy

GAME 1:  Jéré  76  -  jungleboy  66
GAME 2:  Jéré  71  -  jungleboy  50

Both games were pretty tight. In the first one I trapped 4 of JB's meeples if I remember well and I guess that made the difference. Only 6 pts were awarded for fields!

In the second game, there was a huge city and I gambled a bit on getting a CFCF city splitter tile to untrap one of my guy, trap 1 (possibly 2) of JB's meeples, make that enormous city incompletable and connect the fields... Took a while but I got the tile (I knew there were 2 left). The rest was trying to prevent him from joining the field and pray that he wouldn't get the tile to steal the big city.

Screenshots:

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160508/cd70251871f30fb11125e6d3512a10cd.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160508/624a65dfcf82995670aca3fc95692f71.jpg)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on May 08, 2016, 11:40:12 AM
Congrats Jéré. I felt like I didn't do much wrong in either game but the tiles just didn't seem to go my way.

Early in the first game, Jéré was one tile away from trapping one of my meeples and I was one tile away from trapping 2 of his. He drew a tile that could have trapped mine, but he chose to use it to avoid his own two meeples being trapped. Then on his next turn he drew the tile he needed to trap mine anyway. The rest of the day just seemed to go like that. He did indeed trap four of my meeples in the first game and I felt like it wasn't as close as the 10-point difference indicated.

The second game, on the other hand, was very close and tight all the way. It came down to the last few tiles and again it just didn't seem to go my way.

Anyway, well done Jéré and good luck with your next challenge.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on May 09, 2016, 01:01:47 AM
Challenge against danisthirty

GAME 1:  Jéré    79  -  danisthirty  77
GAME 2:  Jéré  101  -  danisthirty  99

2 wins with a difference of only 2 pts! Incredibly close!

About the first game, we agreed that I stole it.  Dan played a better game than I did but managed to get enough points with a late farmer placement in the south field.

For the second game, a bit the opposite. It should have been an easy win for me but Dan managed to come back in the last turns. Despite being very aggressive in the fields, Dan managed to tie in the main field. Good job!... but unfortunately for him, somehow I managed to with by 2 pts... again!  For the screen capture, I screwed up a little bit: I only saved the situation just before the final scoring so I did it manually. Dan, you can double check just to be sure. Thanks.

Screenshots:

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/14c43c97aaedc76338606be9ec90dd44.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/84799aebfd37fbe5f42a622edbe8016a.jpg)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jma03 on May 09, 2016, 01:30:33 AM

Jere well done !! I see you "on fire"
very good results.
sorry dan.

by the way , how I can know if I have the option to challenge someone ? I have doubts about it ¿Could someone tell me?
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on May 09, 2016, 01:48:24 AM

Jere well done !! I see you "on fire"
very good results.
sorry dan.

by the way , how I can know if I have the option to challenge someone ? I have doubts about it ¿Could someone tell me?

Thanks jacobo!  :)

To challenge you need to be a Blue member.  If I am not mistaken, you only miss one achievement to reach Blue level, which is finishing in the top 8 at the World Cup. Almost there!! :o
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on June 06, 2016, 01:35:11 AM
I wrote a fairly lengthy reply about my 2 games with Jere but must have forgotten to have posted it... :-[

In short, they were great games! I did feel like I'd perhaps played a better game and deserved the win in the first game, but Jere certainly deserved the win in the second game; I was amazed he only took it by 2 points! Well player sir! :(y)

Anyway, another month another set of challenges. I hereby challenge Jere and MrNumbers whenever they have some free time. I think I need all the practice I can get at the moment so some head-to-heads practice against two of my most feared opponents will be a good place to start! 8)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on June 16, 2016, 05:56:06 AM
I accept the challenge (forgot I had to reply here! sorry.)

I can play:

Not available June 21-26. Pretty free after that.

Let me know.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on June 16, 2016, 12:10:26 PM
I accept the challenge (forgot I had to reply here! sorry.)

I can play:
  • Tonight after my League game vs Jacobo (at 19:00)
  • Tomorrow evening (19:00-23:00)
  • This saturday

Not available June 21-26. Pretty free after that.

Let me know.

I am available for the next few hours probably. Or failing that, tomorrow evening should be fine. :(y)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on June 17, 2016, 01:19:53 AM
I had 3 great games with Jéré last night. Don't have time for a full analysis, but will post some quick comments with each of the screenshots below:

Game 1:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jere_June_G1_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jere_June_G1_map.png)

Woohoo! 1 - 0 up against Jéré doesn't happen very often in my world so this was a great start. Jéré trapped 2 of my meeples quite early on; one in a city for 1 point and 1 farmer who failed to join the main farm (0 points). With this handicap I didn't even bother placing any farmers until it already seemed too late, but ended up managing to draw it after putting myself in a position where I needed the final fffr cloister (which I drew). If I hadn't drawn it, Jéré would have won. Likewise, if Jéré had drawn one of the 2 (or possibly even 3) remaining cccf tiles he could have taken my city in the north-west corner and outnumbered me 3 - 1 which would also have won him the game. So, luck was on my side for this one... :D

Game 2:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jere_June_G2_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jere_June_G2_map.png)

I really felt like I was in control of this game after getting off to a good start with a few cities and then being the first to claim the main farm. I killed a city of mine that Jéré was trying to share which trapped both of our meeples but gave me 4-point advantage in doing so. I also started building a big city which wasn't entirely on purpose but served as a good place to dump city tiles that I didn't want to use elsewhere. Inevitably Jéré wanted in on this action and joined it without difficulty, which on top of the multiple cloisters that he kept drawing (and completing) meant that I began to lose my grip on the game. The farm was a constant battle which ended up being tied with 3 farmers each so my last hope was to win back my big city (east) with my one remaining meeple. The final 2 tiles were a cccr and a frfr. If I'd drawn the cccr I could have taken the city outright, but would still have lost by 1 point. So despite a promising start, Jéré fought back for a well-deserved win! :(

Game 3:

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jere_June_G3_scores.png)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jere_June_G3_map.png)

Bah. This was the worst of the three as far as I was concerned. From early on, Jéré tried to trap two of my meeples in a cloister and a small city but I was able to defend it such that my cloister at least could be completed if I drew one of the three remaining cfrr tiles. However, Jéré drew all three of them which didn't help. Elsewhere in the game, we both shared a nice long road and a respectable (but incomplete city) in the north. Jéré tried to take the road outright but I cut him off, and neither of us attempted to take either shared feature for ourselves after this. With a lot of help from some favourable tiles I was able to get the city in the south east to within 1 tile of completion before Jéré made completing it without him impossible. Naturally, I then drew the tile I'd been waiting for to close it, but which was now useless to me. >:( I didn't really have the meeples available to fight back and take the city outright, but hoped he wouldn't draw the cccf he needed to share it with me. Unfortunately though, he did. I drew a lot of road tiles in the second half of the game but was usually able to use them to win some points so can't complain about that. I was very lucky to complete a 5-tile city (just above the outnumbered blue farmer) too. In the end though, it was another game that Jéré deserved to win after going for the main farm with 3 farmers and then forcing my lone farmer onto the same farm to rob me of 6 points and generate 3 for himself from the extra city. Without this, it could have been a narrow win for me, but I won't complain about that either as I feel Jéré was certainly the better player on the day.

Congratulations on your wins Jéré, looking forward to July already! :D :(y)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on June 17, 2016, 02:12:42 AM
Good descriptions as usual, Dan!  :(y)

After this Tower league disaster, I was REALLY HUNGRY for wins... sorry that you've been the victim.  :)

That was also a good practice for the final of the French National Championship in a bit more than a week! Many thanks for that!

Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 11, 2017, 01:18:49 AM
MrNumbers, I challenge you!  C:-)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: MrNumbers on January 11, 2017, 02:55:25 AM
MrNumbers, I challenge you!  C:-)
OK, see you on the ring! 8)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 11, 2017, 07:08:31 AM
MrNumbers, I challenge you!  C:-)
OK, see you on the ring! 8)
Brave man! I'm pretty available this week and next week too. Anytime in the evening!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 11, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Just played a "best of 3" challenge vs MrNumbers. Before we started, we were discussing that we both did not play much lately and were a bit rusty...

Game 1:

:red-meeple: MrNumbers107
:yellow-meeple: Jéré97

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170111/d991e88f3baba8d80b0e2770b085edbd.jpg)

Strange game. Very low score for first half of the game. MrNumbers took the lead early and kept it the whole game. He played super well and made sure I never had a chance to come back.

Game 2:

:red-meeple: MrNumbers83
:yellow-meeple: Jéré85

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170111/489ba3e4ebdb6a20cbccdcdeee70ddb3.jpg)

Game started in a similar fashion but it was more tight this time. Really thought I'd lose as I waited too long to connect the fields in the south-east with a curved road... Got one or two but used them somewhere else and at the end I trapped my own meeple and later MrNumbers added another farmer to score 2 x 9pts. MrNumbers mentioned that his mistake was to claim the road in the west... but I think I got 2 tiles what he needed to close this road towards the end. Won by only 2 points.

Game 3:

:red-meeple: MrNumbers66
:yellow-meeple: Jéré89

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170111/96a036eb4d38f1ea608f24a85b08cd41.jpg)

Finally the tie-breaker! Tough game for MrNumbers. I got the tiles I needed, the opposite for him. At some point, I thought he would come back as I was waiting for a curved road for the entire 2nd half of the game and I needed some meeples back to my supply... That was the only thing that didn't work for me, for the rest no complains, I can say that the luck was on my side. Then we needed the same tile: MrNumbers to finish a 16-point city, me to steal the main field (18pts). I got it.

Thanks MrNumbers for the games!  :(y)

With the other challenge won against Dan last June, I should get the Black achievement. yay!  :)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on January 11, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
With the other challenge won against Dan last June, I should get the Black achievement. yay!  :)

Well done Jéré: Black-6 is yours! :(y)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Rosco on January 16, 2017, 02:50:43 PM
Who can I challenge?

Sent from my SM-G800F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 16, 2017, 11:49:08 PM
Who can I challenge?

Sent from my SM-G800F using Tapatalk

The other 2 blues (Leven and jungleboy) as well as the reds (MrNumbers, danisthirty and Jéré).

Full list here:  http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1618.msg40495#msg40495
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on January 20, 2017, 02:48:44 AM
After kindly letting him win the "friendly" game we played last night (a well-deserved 9 point victory for him) I hereby challenge Jere...
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 20, 2017, 04:05:02 AM
I accept! Tonight is best for me.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on January 20, 2017, 11:26:42 AM
I accept! Tonight is best for me.

Coolzords. I should be available within the hour once the kids are in bed.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 20, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
Will you manage? I saw you appeared very briefly and left.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 20, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
Ok let's postpone this. In the coming days I'll be busier but I'll find time. Cheers
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2017, 02:04:08 AM
Will you manage? I saw you appeared very briefly and left.

I was in the chat room by myself for about 20 minutes. Then I checked the online server and was the only person there too so I played a couple of games against Adda. I saw you there later on and said hello but you didn't respond so I logged back into the chat room and said Hi to you there too but nothing. So i guessed you must have been away and went to bed...
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 21, 2017, 02:11:07 AM
Ah ok. Pity. Indeed I didn't look at the chat on the online server. True you said Hi in the chat room but timestamps say that you stayed less than 1 minute so I didn't have time to react. I was in my hotel room packing my suitcase, just next to the laptop.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2017, 02:13:23 AM
I think because I hadn't seen you earlier I half thought I'd missed you, and because you didn't appear to be very active in the online server lobby I assumed you'd gone...
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on January 21, 2017, 02:20:18 AM
No worries!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on February 01, 2017, 07:30:02 AM
It's about time I got serious about moving up. If I remember correctly, I need to win two challenges against a blue or red belt to move up to red, and I already defeated MrNumbers in a challenge match, leaving me one more.

If that's right, let me just get it over with and challenge the phantom himself, danisthirty!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on February 01, 2017, 07:49:55 AM
If that's right, let me just get it over with and challenge the phantom himself, danisthirty!

Awesomeness. I accept!

I should be free and in the chat room from about 9:30 this evening. So, depending on whether TheSteveAllen is around and would like to finish our 3-player game I would definitely be up for playing our challenge then if it suits you?

I think I also have an outstanding challenge match with Jere so I'll have to squeeze that in some time too.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on February 01, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
If that's right, let me just get it over with and challenge the phantom himself, danisthirty!

Awesomeness. I accept!

I should be free and in the chat room from about 9:30 this evening. So, depending on whether TheSteveAllen is around and would like to finish our 3-player game I would definitely be up for playing our challenge then if it suits you?

I think I also have an outstanding challenge match with Jere so I'll have to squeeze that in some time too.

OK, I'm free tonight so I'll look out for you...
Title: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on February 01, 2017, 03:41:18 PM
Tonight I challenged danisthirty and managed to win an epic evening of Carcassonne 2-1. The scores were:

Game 1: danisthirty 139, jungleboy 124
Game 2: jungleboy 89, danisthirty 81
Game 3: jungleboy 91, danisthirty 88

All three games were very tense. Both Dan and I have come a long way since we played a couple of practice games ahead of the first league here nearly three years ago. Despite our recently declining ELOs, I felt that all three were very high level matches.

Rather than a blow-by-blow account of all three games, here are a couple of general observations:

- Whoever won cloisters won all three games. They are so important in a base game only game, and it seemed like the cloister draw was lopsided in each game (the first in Dan's favour; the last two in my favour). 

- I won roads in all three games. What does that mean? Probably nothing, but maybe it's Dan's secret weak spot. Well it ain't secret anymore!

- Dan won cities in all three games. Maybe that's my secret weak spot. If so, it's a pretty weak weak spot! I mean, cities!

- The first player lost all three games. I'm pretty happy with this as I like to think that the first player doesn't have a significant advantage.

Thanks for the games Dan. It was a pleasure as always!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170201/569b81a564f63dd715a1646228c692e0.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170201/88de731294ec209f8820ee95f0c3de41.jpg)

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Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on February 01, 2017, 04:21:01 PM
Thanks for the screenshots and observations jungleboy! :(y)

After getting a good win in the first game and then JB completely running out of meeples just under halfway through the second game I thought I had it made. However, he managed to complete a couple of cloisters and scored well from them along with another couple of features. I thought I might have stayed ahead with my super mega-(incomplete)-city but it wasn't enough and JB took the win by a decent margin.

The third game was a little annoying for both of us. I tried to trap early on but JB closed the gap down to a crrf while there were still 3 left in the deck. I drew all of them though, and obviously I placed them elsewhere. Similarly, I put myself in the situation whereby I needed the last ccrr tile to take a potentially tasty city. This was probably a mistake as the meeple I sacrificed could have generated more points elsewhere, but I couldn't stand to see JB take the city if he drew the tile. Naturally JB drew it, which was bad enough by itself, but he also used it to tie the main farm which was the basket I'd carefully placed all my eggs in. With 4 or 5 tiles left to go I made a desperate attempt to win it back with my last meeple but was cut off. If I'd gone to the trouble of counting how close the scores were, and had counted the tiles closely enough to have realised that there were no tiles left which might have joined me to the farm I could have used the same meeple elsewhere to win 6 points and win by 3. Evidently I wasn't paying close enough attention though and JB punished me for this!

Congrats to jungleboy who has now beaten both MrNumbers and I in challenge matches which is the last thing he needs to become a member of the Order of the Meeple at the Red level. Welcome! :red-meeple:
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on February 02, 2017, 01:47:08 AM
With 4 or 5 tiles left to go I made a desperate attempt to win it back with my last meeple but was cut off. If I'd gone to the trouble of counting how close the scores were, and had counted the tiles closely enough to have realised that there were no tiles left which might have joined me to the farm I could have used the same meeple elsewhere to win 6 points and win by 3. Evidently I wasn't paying close enough attention though and JB punished me for this!

I had counted the scores (but not the tiles) and thought that I would still win with a tied farm. When you placed your desperation meeple to try to win the farm, I did the same with my last meeple on my next turn. If you had placed your meeple elsewhere, I wouldn't have put mine where I did, so I could potentially have also scored more points with my last two tiles.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on February 02, 2017, 02:15:33 AM
If you had placed your meeple elsewhere, I wouldn't have put mine where I did, so I could potentially have also scored more points with my last two tiles.

Good point, I feel a little better about it now. So if I'd claimed the 6-point farm you would have needed 4 points with one meeple and 2 tiles (cfff followed by crrr) to win the game. That sounds decidedly achieveable for somebody of your talents!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on March 13, 2017, 02:19:44 PM
Dan challenged me... now he regrets... :)

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Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on March 14, 2017, 02:52:50 AM
Dan challenged me... now he regrets... :)

Win or learn. Never regret.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: ny1050220 on March 14, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
Dan challenged me... now he regrets... :)

Win or learn. Never regret.
Nice saying! Merited.
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on March 07, 2018, 08:59:12 AM
Hear ye, hear ye! I hereby challenge jungleboy and Jere to challenge matches to be played before the end of this month!

Let me know when you’re free guys! :)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on March 07, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Hear ye, hear ye! I hereby challenge jungleboy and Jere to challenge matches to be played before the end of this month!

Let me know when you’re free guys! :)

Jungleboy was quick to respond to the challenge and we ended up playing a couple of games this evening. The eventual score was 2 - 0 to me meaning I'm halfway towards winning two challenge matches against Red (or above) opponents. :red-meeple: :(y)

Game 1 (started by jungleboy)

:blue-meeple: danisthirty 83 : 61 jungleboy :green-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jungleboy_Dan_20180307-212506.png)

Game 2 (started by danisthirty)

:blue-meeple: danisthirty 114 : 94 jungleboy :green-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Dan_jungleboy_20180307-214430.png)

Thanks for the games jungleboy! ;)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: jungleboy on March 07, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
After my glorious victory on Saturday in a 4-player game at the D20 meetup, this was not a great follow-up. There was lots of trapping in the first game and I ran out of meeples and just couldn't draw the tiles I needed. The second game was better but Dan took control in the second half and I just couldn't get back into it. Congrats Dan!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on March 16, 2018, 04:28:25 AM
Issuing a challenge to MrNumbers as well! :)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on March 16, 2018, 04:09:28 PM
Issuing a challenge to MrNumbers as well! :)

We played our challenge match this evening and after a promising start (for me) it went downhill after that with the final score being 2 games to 1 in MrNumbers' favour!

Game 1 (started by danisthirty)
:blue-meeple: danisthirty 116 : 100 MrNumbers :red-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MN_challenge_March18_1.png)

MrNumbers made a costly mistake in this game where he failed to notice that a field he was aggressively adding farmers to wasn't connected to the main farm where all the points (and my farmers) were. He spotted this once I'd gone to the trouble of making a hole where he needed a joining tile to be, but with 3 farmers already committed to the smaller farm there was no way back by then. Even so, it wasn't an easy win by any stretch of the imagination and the fact that there were only 16 points between us at the end of the game just goes to show how many points MrNumbers was able to generate elsewhere! :(y)

Game 2 (started by MrNumbers)
:red-meeple: MrNumbers 96 : 93 danisthirty :blue-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MN_challenge_March18_2.png)

This game seemed like it was going to end in the same way as the first. I enjoyed my fair share of luck, but MrNumbers took a risk to win a nice city outright which left him waiting for the last cccr and also a cfcf to complete his city (and adjacent cloister). The game was turned on its head somewhat when he then drew both of the tiles he needed one after another! With a few more meeples back in hand and a big points boost MrNumbers secured the win thanks to the completion of another city (where he needed, and drew the final crrr) and a few small farms dotted around. I had felt I was going to win this one, but after his mistake in the first game this felt like some sort of karmic realignment...

Game 3 (started by MrNumbers)
:red-meeple: MrNumbers 78 : 61 danisthirty :blue-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/MN_challenge_March18_3.png)

This was a dreadful game for me! I just didn't seem to be able to close anything and had rather a frustrating time of it seeing MrNumbers getting all the tiles I wanted so badly! Desperation got the better of me towards the end, and after placing my last meeple on a farm which I never managed to join to the more valuable farm next door, all I could do was sit back and watch MrNumbers increase his score whilst swearing at the curtains. >:(

Congratulations on your wins MrNumbers! I'll be back again next month I'm sure... :)
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on April 26, 2018, 12:08:34 PM
Since it's just Jere and I, I am challenging him to a challenge match!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: Jéré on April 26, 2018, 12:10:30 PM
Since it's just Jere and I, I am challenging him to a challenge match!

Oh you dare!!
Title: Re: Order of the Meeple: Challenge Matches
Post by: danisthirty on April 26, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
Since it's just Jere and I, I am challenging him to a challenge match!

Oh you dare!!

I do! And I'm glad I did... >:D

Game 1 (started by danisthirty)
:blue-meeple: danisthirty 85 : 73 Jéré :yellow-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Dan_Jéré_20180426-205634.png)

Game 2 (started by Jéré)
:blue-meeple: danisthirty 62 : 47 Jéré :yellow-meeple:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Jéré_Danisthirty_20180426-212124.png)

Two great games, and both very close! My drawing the final fffr cloister tile in the first game allowed me to clinch it by winning the main 24-point farm outright; robbing Jéré of a small farm of his own and taking 8 points for the cloister in the process.

Jéré didn't manage his meeples as carefully as he normally does in our second game and after a couple of risks didn't pay off he got himself into the tricky situation of having no meeples left to play with! :( He had some good points on the board though, and left me with a bit of a mountain to climb to take the win. Again, I drew a tile I needed in the end - the final rrrf (after Jéré had drawn the first 3 of them >:() - and merged the two farms to take overall control of both. Very low-scoring for both of us, but in the end I had enough points to win the challenge match 2 - 0! 8)

Thanks for the games Jeremie. It's rare enough that I beat you at all, so to win 2 games in a row was something special for me against my #1 Carcassonne nemesis! ;) :(y) :(y)