63. What happens in a challenge, if the shrine and the monastery are occupied by you?
63: you get the points of the feature that wins the challenge
64. Can you score 2 or more [acrobat] pyramids in the same turn?
Quote from: Meepledrone on February 27, 2020, 12:35:34 AMQuote from: DrMeeple on February 26, 2020, 04:48:53 PMIt’s good to have questions but... why cannot you use WICA? Come on! Don't be like that. Some questions are great!... And some of them come from reading WICA too... So don't be so grumpy, this is a great proofreading exercise that helps improve it.I'm having a great time. It made me laugh when I got to this point in the thread! (I've just read it all. Quite a lot of it in skim mode, I'll admit.) It made me laugh not least because I thought something similar to DrMeeple when I was part way through the thread.Meepledrone is right of course, there is so much joy to be had in proofreading! I'm serious, that's how I came up with all my recent suggestions for edits!One question though for Carcassonne93, what's the context for your questions? How come you have so many all at once? Have you just inherited/bought a huge Carcassonne collection and you're starting from scratch? Or are these all the questions you've ever had over the years and you've only found CarcassonneCentral.com / WikiCarpedia? Maybe you could tell us your story by making a post over in Meet The Members?
Quote from: DrMeeple on February 26, 2020, 04:48:53 PMIt’s good to have questions but... why cannot you use WICA? Come on! Don't be like that. Some questions are great!... And some of them come from reading WICA too... So don't be so grumpy, this is a great proofreading exercise that helps improve it.I'm having a great time.
It’s good to have questions but... why cannot you use WICA?
Quote from: cicerunner on February 28, 2020, 10:53:29 PMOne question though for Carcassonne93, what's the context for your questions? How come you have so many all at once? Have you just inherited/bought a huge Carcassonne collection and you're starting from scratch? Or are these all the questions you've ever had over the years and you've only found CarcassonneCentral.com / WikiCarpedia? Maybe you could tell us your story by making a post over in Meet The Members?My current theory is he bet a few beers with some friends that he could ask 93 questions about Carcassonne. I'm curious and amazed too.
One question though for Carcassonne93, what's the context for your questions? How come you have so many all at once? Have you just inherited/bought a huge Carcassonne collection and you're starting from scratch? Or are these all the questions you've ever had over the years and you've only found CarcassonneCentral.com / WikiCarpedia? Maybe you could tell us your story by making a post over in Meet The Members?
1. “The rules for the Messages refer to “scoring rounds,” as all features scored in one “scoring round” are counted together, and only at the end of a “scoring round” is it determined if a follower is on a dark space.”2. Q: “32. The Messages: In the same turn: You have the meeple on 0. You score a city with 10 points. Now you have the meeple on 10. Then, you score 2 points for a road. Now you have the meeple on 12. Do you receive a message tile?”A: “Yes, the idea of the scoring round and using two scoring figures is that maximize your odds to land on a dark space. In this case, your regular scoring round comprises the scoring of two features. The order you follow to score them grants you one landing on a dark space. Once you finish the scoring round you receive a message and proceed with it, maybe landing on a new dark space and receiving another message.“Which is the correct answer?
1. “The rules for the Messages refer to “scoring rounds,” as all features scored in one “scoring round” are counted together, and only at the end of a “scoring round” is it determined if a follower is on a dark space.”
2. Q: “32. The Messages: In the same turn: You have the meeple on 0. You score a city with 10 points. Now you have the meeple on 10. Then, you score 2 points for a road. Now you have the meeple on 12. Do you receive a message tile?”
A: “Yes, the idea of the scoring round and using two scoring figures is that [you] maximize your odds to land on a dark space. In this case, your regular scoring round comprises the scoring of two features.
The order you follow to score them grants you one landing on a dark space.
Once you finish the scoring round you receive a message and proceed with it, maybe landing on a new dark space and receiving another message.“
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on February 22, 2020, 05:01:01 PM(34): The robber receive 2 or 9 nine points?If the robber is next to the scoring meeple of the player scoring the road and the fairy points, the robber would get 9 points for the road. The 2 points from the fairy bonus would be scored later once the robber is removed.If the robber is next to the player scoring the castle (different from the one scoring the road), the robber would get the 9 points scored for the castle.The normal order of scoring would be:1. Score bonus points evaluated before the feature -- Ignored by the castle - Watchowers (if the player has a meeple placed on the Watchtower tile of any road or city scored)2. Score the feature including any modifiers and bonus points associated to the feature --- Scored by the castle - Inns (for roads) - Cathedrals (for cities) - Mage and Witch (for road and cities) - Little Buildings (for roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) - Bathhouses (for roads and cities) - Labyrinths advanced rules (for roads) - German Castles (for road and cities) - Darmstadtium (for cities) - Vineyards (for monastic buildings)3. Score bonus points evaluated after the feature -- Ignored by the castle - 3-point fairy scoring bonus (for roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) - Teacher bonus (if the player has the Teacher) - Ringmaster points (for roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) - Darmstadt churches (if the player has the majority in the vicinity of the church) - Markets of Leipzig (bonus for roads, cities or monastic buildings, provided by the meeple in Leipzig)If present, a robber may steal any of these points. If multiple features are scored with the placement of one single tile, the player receiving the points decided the order they will be awarded, as indicated here (this is important so robbers get the least points ):http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Robbers#cite_note-7
(34): The robber receive 2 or 9 nine points?
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Hi everyone - first time poster and I apologize for hijacking this thread a bit (it's been a fascinating read!) but I noticed something from Meepledrone that seems like it contradicts the current Order of Play on WICA:Quote from: Meepledrone on February 23, 2020, 05:41:44 AMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on February 22, 2020, 05:01:01 PM(34): The robber receive 2 or 9 nine points?If the robber is next to the scoring meeple of the player scoring the road and the fairy points, the robber would get 9 points for the road. The 2 points from the fairy bonus would be scored later once the robber is removed.If the robber is next to the player scoring the castle (different from the one scoring the road), the robber would get the 9 points scored for the castle.The normal order of scoring would be:1. Score bonus points evaluated before the feature -- Ignored by the castle - Watchowers (if the player has a meeple placed on the Watchtower tile of any road or city scored)2. Score the feature including any modifiers and bonus points associated to the feature --- Scored by the castle - Inns (for roads) - Cathedrals (for cities) - Mage and Witch (for road and cities) - Little Buildings (for roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) - Bathhouses (for roads and cities) - Labyrinths advanced rules (for roads) - German Castles (for road and cities) - Darmstadtium (for cities) - Vineyards (for monastic buildings)3. Score bonus points evaluated after the feature -- Ignored by the castle - 3-point fairy scoring bonus (for roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) - Teacher bonus (if the player has the Teacher) - Ringmaster points (for roads, cities, monastic buildings,...) - Darmstadt churches (if the player has the majority in the vicinity of the church) - Markets of Leipzig (bonus for roads, cities or monastic buildings, provided by the meeple in Leipzig)If present, a robber may steal any of these points. If multiple features are scored with the placement of one single tile, the player receiving the points decided the order they will be awarded, as indicated here (this is important so robbers get the least points ):http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Robbers#cite_note-7I totally agree with keeping "bonuses" separate from "features" when it comes to determining how many points a castle is worth (I'm actually glad to read it, I saw another post from sometime last year that had the fairy, Leipzig, etc. bonuses factored into castle scoring and it threw me for a loop!) But the Order of Play has the 3-point fairy bonus coming in before the feature points are tallied, instead of after. Here it says it comes after points are scored, which could affect which points a robber gets to steal. Maybe that's something that's in the works to be updated on WICA, but it just struck me as an potential contradiction.Again, sorry for derailing things a bit. Thank you!
Hi Swiggan,Welcome to the forum and thank you for your first post.As you have pointed out there is a discrepancy between the rules and the Order of Play. After a first review, I have updated Step 3B:* Moving the fairy bonus after tallying the points for the feature* Moving the Markets of Leipzig bonus after tallying the points for the feature* Moving the Darmstadt church bonus after tallying the points for the feature* Added a note about the points scored by a castle or a teacher.Do you find it more clear now?Thank you for your help.Cheers!
Quote from: Meepledrone on March 02, 2020, 06:00:35 PMHi Swiggan,Welcome to the forum and thank you for your first post.As you have pointed out there is a discrepancy between the rules and the Order of Play. After a first review, I have updated Step 3B:* Moving the fairy bonus after tallying the points for the feature* Moving the Markets of Leipzig bonus after tallying the points for the feature* Moving the Darmstadt church bonus after tallying the points for the feature* Added a note about the points scored by a castle or a teacher.Do you find it more clear now?Thank you for your help.Cheers!Hi Meepledrone - Indeed! I just wasn't sure if that was something that was already planned to be updated or not, but I thought it was worth a mention. Thanks for all the effort that you and everyone else put in to this, it's appreciated!
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