Big Box 5 - A New Big Box in the Netherlands

[Paul]

In Germany - the BigBox 5 (from 2014) will come to the market "Real-Kauf".

The last BigBoxes had a price around 30 EURO.

30 omg.. we pay double in netherlands..

Same here. 55-60 Euro.

Considering the small content of BB4 and BB5 compared to the earlier ones, one might call these Big Bucks instead. 
  I can only compare boxes sold here in Sweden, though. No matter which one was sold (here) the price was always the same. BB3 I am so glad I got that one (the very last copy officially in Sweden!).

[SRBO]

In Germany - the BigBox 5 (from 2014) will come to the market "Real-Kauf".

The last BigBoxes had a price around 30 EURO.

30 omg.. we pay double in netherlands..

BB1, 2 and 3 don't exist here xd. we started at 4.

Same here. 55-60 Euro.

Considering the small content of BB4 and BB5 compared to the earlier ones, one might call these Big Bucks instead. 
  I can only compare boxes sold here in Sweden, though. No matter which one was sold (here) the price was always the same. BB3 I am so glad I got that one (the very last copy officially in Sweden!).

[jungleboy]

Z-Man Games has announced Big Box 5 on Facebook. Here is what they say:

Carcassonne Big Box 5!
Whether you’re a huge Carcassonne fan or experiencing this award-winning game for the first time, the Carcassonne Big Box has something for everyone.
The expansions included in the box change the game in new and exciting ways and can be used in any combination, guaranteeing a new experience every time you play.
In addition to the base game, you will find the following expansions: Inn & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, The River, Hills & Sheep, and The Wheel of Fortune! Inside you will also find two brand new colors of followers - pink and purple - allowing you to play Carcassonne with 7 or 8 players for the first time.

They go on to say a few more things:
- There are no plans to release the new River separately.
- There are no pink and purple shepherds in the Big Box.
- Someone asked if the Big Box 5 was available in France and they said not yet, but that it will come.

[Carcatronn]

When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...

[kettlefish]

When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...

It is so, like you have read the rule book.

[Scott]

When somebody finally gets their hands on this, I'm curious to know if any of the contents are worth buying this.

[kettlefish]

I've got my BigBox5 directly from HiG...
I like this BigBox.
This time the landscape tiles have a great yellow green for the fields.

In the BigBox4 were the landscape tiles in a dark green for the fields and the texture of the paper was different than all the tiles of all the other boxes...

[Whaleyland]

When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...

It is so, like you have read the rule book.

I see now on the Czech rules that four of the tiles are marked and there is an explanation below, though I can't translate it. How many of the base game tiles are marked with Wheel of Fortune symbols, in addition to the 12 tiles marked from the expansion?

[kettlefish]

When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...

It is so, like you have read the rule book.

I see now on the Czech rules that four of the tiles are marked and there is an explanation below, though I can't translate it. How many of the base game tiles are marked with Wheel of Fortune symbols, in addition to the 12 tiles marked from the expansion?

BigBox5:

Base game: 16 landscape tiles with the Wheel symbol - without watermark:
Wheel-Symbol 1: 9x
Wheel-Symbol 2: 5x
Wheel-Symbol 3: 2x

Expansion Wheel of Fortune: 3 landscape tiles with the Wheel symbol - with watermark wheel:
Wheel-Symbol 1: 2x
Wheel-Symbol 2: 0x
Wheel-Symbol 3: 1x
Expansion Wheel of Fortune: 9 landscape tiles without the Wheel symbol - with watermark wheel - all tiles don't belong to the standard Carcassonne base game.

[Whaleyland]

I'm just going to say that that is probably the wonkiest way ever of doing that expansion. 12 tiles that aren't from the base game so get watermarks even though only 3 of them have wheels. 16 tiles from without watermarks that show wheels just because they overlap with the tiles from the base game. Why again didn't they just include the Wheel of Fortune expansion AS the base game? Then none of this strangeness would have been necessary. Honestly, I'm becoming less and less intrigued with this Big Box and increasingly disappointed in the decisions that were made.

[kettlefish]

I find that logical what they did.

[coyote]

I'm just going to say that that is probably the wonkiest way ever of doing that expansion. 12 tiles that aren't from the base game so get watermarks even though only 3 of them have wheels. 16 tiles from without watermarks that show wheels just because they overlap with the tiles from the base game. Why again didn't they just include the Wheel of Fortune expansion AS the base game? Then none of this strangeness would have been necessary. Honestly, I'm becoming less and less intrigued with this Big Box and increasingly disappointed in the decisions that were made.

Would have to agree.. Trying to follow it (this thread), and .. I'm still confused as to *why* it was done this way.

[Fritz_Spinne]

I think they did it this way in order that you can play with the standard base game with 72 tiles.
If you play with the WoF-Expansion you have the original WoF "base" game.

[Whaleyland]

I think they did it this way in order that you can play with the standard base game with 72 tiles.
If you play with the WoF-Expansion you have the original WoF "base" game.

Plus 12 additional standard base game tiles meaning you are playing with 84 tiles instead of 72.

The reason they did it was straight marketing. By doing Wheel of Fortune as an expansion and including a modified base game, they could advertise on the box that both were included, even while in reality only Wheel of Fortune was included as the base game with 12 additional vanilla tiles randomly thrown in. Marketing overpowers logic yet again!

[kettlefish]

The BigBox5 is different than all the others BigBox1-4.

The "Base Game" changed... 

Some of my other BigBoxes 3+4 were almost material for tiles used for fan-expansions...
(base game, 1.+2. expansion)

The BigBox5 will become a new separate status...
(I can only use 1.+2. expansion for fan-expansions...)