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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 09:10:29 AM »

So I have a question to you all - if you don't like that the dragon can eat all these meeple on the German castle tile - how many meeple can he eat?
You have the opinion the German castle tile is like 2 tiles...
And in this example he has only one step to go - the 6th one...
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For me it is easy - the German castle is one landscape tile - the dragon has only one move / step left - the 6th one - he can eat all meeple on that tile = 5 meeple.

Awesome picture Kettlefish!

This is how I see it (as a 2-tiler).  The dragon could move once North and eat the yellow meeple.  The dragon could take a second move, WEST and eat 3 meeple.  Some of us think it's thematically sound to keep the meeple in the Castle safe.  It's an awfully big castle they are hiding in. 

However If the meeple in the castle must be eaten I can see it:
i) Eating the Meeple when it goes NORTH because the Dragon can eat things in the castle.
ii) Only eating the meeple if it goes from Right to Left; because it moved across the castle....and attacked it.

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 08:50:23 AM »

It would also make problems with windroses.

Such as?

If it's counted as 2 tiles, one of the tiles (half of the castle) might be or not be in the right north/south zone.

Could you expand on this.  I think this would work like the flyers and the Tower, when travelling lengthways it is considerd 1 tile.  But if you are travelling widthways you consider it 2 tiles, so you can't hop across, unless you're a dragon.  But perhaps i missed something...it's getting late for my brain

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The Marketplace / Re: Каркассон: Мы идем в Каркассон

« on: October 14, 2015, 08:24:38 AM »

Just got my tracking notice   

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 08:13:18 AM »

Just like I said before.  Double as in 2.

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Anything Else / Re: Happy Birthday

« on: October 14, 2015, 08:06:28 AM »

Really need to check the calendar more often.  Happy BDay Paul; what pressies did you get?

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 07:40:29 AM »

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87HIKt_PkmQYmlNdHFMU2JGNms/view Here are the german rules. It states "6 Doppel-Landschaftplättchen". Later simply called "Burgplättchen".
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87HIKt_PkmQSTUtM2hzakNDNmc/view In english it's "double-sized Landscape Tiles". Later called "Castle tile".
They're called double (sized) landscape tiles. Never are they called double tiles. There is no mention of 6 tiles consisting of 2 tiles. Just 6 bigger tiles.

The English version of the rules was translated by wamboyil a member of this forum.  He translated Doppel as double-sized.

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 06:48:19 AM »

I have a Question.

Above it states:

The German castle has more a function like a cloister.

Does this mean they can enter into battles with the cult.  Does it also mean a cult cannot be played near 2 castles or a castle and a cloister.  Can castles be used to escape besieged cities?

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 06:25:39 AM »

Good points Dan.  I've drawn up a diagram to explain how the tower's reach could be affected by the German Castle with the rule. 

On the left is Tower with range 3.  On the right is a Tower with the same range but near some German Castles.

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 06:17:02 AM »

As to why a castle tile is worth 2 points when counting a completed (surrounded) castle (always worth 10+2=12 points) and the same castle tile is worth only 1 point when around a cloister... I have no idea. Maybe it's a bonus point because the castle is harder to complete, or because it's a fancy castle?

Perhaps the original designer thought it was 2-tiles, so when completed it was worth two-points.

If the castle tile *would* be worth 2 points around a cloister then completed cloisters could get 9 to 13 points (with 4 adjacent castles to the cloisters.)

Cloisters scoring their intended 9 points when completed could be done by counting "square base tile sized spaces" instead of "tiles" (and rephrasing all the rules since the base game) or by counting the castle as two tiles in one piece. I'm a fan of neither of those options.

This makes even less sense.  Rewriting the original base game rules to fit this mini-expansion is clearly careless.

The Castle tiles are refered to as 6 double sized tiles in the rules. They're always called a single tile, just of double size. Never as 2 tiles in one piece or 2 tiles at once or 2 connected tiles.

This is inaccurate.  The German rules call them "Doppel-Landschaftplättchen".  They are literally double-landscape-tiles; they should be considered as such: 2 landscape tiles.

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News and Events / Re: Spiel Essen (includes Carcassonne world championship) 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 05:10:43 AM »

Looking forward to it; mainly to see if your Spiele '15 card is as big as Jéré's.

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The Marketplace / Re: Каркассон: Мы идем в Каркассон

« on: October 14, 2015, 05:04:58 AM »

I got a shipping notice today, EMS has received the package.  Last time it took about 2-weeks to arrive.

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 04:39:08 AM »

It can score 8 or 9 points depending on the orientation of the castle tile. With more castle tiles next to the completed cloister it could score between 5 points (cloister surrounded by 4 castles) and 9 points (castle tiles facing away).

It is not possible to score 5 points.  The first rule of the Castle is that they cannot be played with corners touching.  Thus four cannot fit around a cloister.

If a German Castle is only 1 tile, why does it score 2 points when it is completed?

Both the Russian City of Carcassonne piece and the Wheel of Fortune piece have white lines on them indicating that they're separate tiles, just in one piece for ease of handling. The german castle tiles have no such line, and an extra rule that they count as 1 tile (of 1x2 size). The City and Wheel are 12 and 16 tiles respectively, just in one playing piece.

The Russian Carcassonne City tile was given away from HiG at Essen; so shouldn't be considered the Russian City of Carcassonne tile any more.  There is no rule indicating that white lines or marks indicate separate tiles. The initial publication does not contain the extra rule regarding the Castles as one tile.

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News and Events / Re: Carcassonne for Mac

« on: October 14, 2015, 04:19:46 AM »

Should have said, thanks for the concern though.  Maybe I just like trouble

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 03:51:06 AM »

Also the English rules for Cloisters read: "A monastery is complete when it is surrounded by tiles."  It doesnt say surrounded by 8 tiles

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Official Rules / Re: Clarification of rules - with HiG - 08 10 2015

« on: October 14, 2015, 03:40:06 AM »

Is the City of Carcassonne 1 or 12 tiles now; this will affect cloister scoring too.  What about the WoF?