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Title: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: TGD on February 03, 2021, 06:39:40 AM
The Phantom pack includes the basic 6 colors, but where can one find other colors? (:violet-meeple: :pink-meeple: :orange-meeple: :white-meeple: etc.)
They aren't included in cundco's meeple sets nor anywhere else on their website as far as I know, so they probably don't have those colors either?
Are they non-existent?
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 03, 2021, 06:54:34 AM
Phantoms do not exist in other colors than CI base colors.

As an alternative, you can buy:

You can see the differences between the different kind of meeples here (frozen meeple is not included) :
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4886.msg71978#msg71978 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4886.msg71978#msg71978)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: TGD on February 03, 2021, 07:26:34 AM
Phantoms do not exist in other colors than CI base colors.

You can see the differences between the different kind of meeples here (frozen meeple is not included) :
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4886.msg71978#msg71978 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4886.msg71978#msg71978)

Yeah I know the differences, I even started the topic you linked (lol).

As an alternative, you can buy:

Both packs miss grey tho :/ I might sound picky, but all I really just want is them all to visually look the same (I mean either all frozen or all teachers) and be transparent at least bit (like ghosts). I don't even really care about the dimensions as long as they all are the same, if they would be a mix from various packs it would bug the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 03, 2021, 07:35:45 AM
This set has a grey one: https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html)

I think that's where I got mine...

I did also see those, no grey, but they look like phantoms:
https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 03, 2021, 07:37:22 AM
This set has a grey one: https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html)

I think that's where I got mine...

I did also see those, no grey, but they look like phantoms:
https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html)

But sadly the grey one is not currently available...  :'(
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Bumsakalaka on February 03, 2021, 08:03:45 AM
This set has a grey one: https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html)

I think that's where I got mine...

I did also see those, no grey, but they look like phantoms:
https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html)

But sadly the grey one is not currently available...  :'(

Well meeples on this link https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html is more teacher (transparent inside) like phantoms (which are fully collored)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 03, 2021, 08:13:16 AM
This set has a grey one: https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html)

I think that's where I got mine...

I did also see those, no grey, but they look like phantoms:
https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparente-meeples-17889.html)

But sadly the grey one is not currently available...  :'(

Well meeples on this link https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html is more teacher (transparent inside) like phantoms (which are fully collored)

They are like teachers, but can be played as phantoms.

For what I know, it is not possible to get grey phantoms (as well as many other colors), as they do not exist. Teachers are a viable alternative then  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: DIN0 on February 03, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
Pretty much everybody uses transparent meeple set nowadays to represent phantoms of all colors. The set with 13 colors was available in Cundco, but seems to have been reduced to 10 color set since. Even that one is not in stock.
Anyway, true phantoms have been obsolete for few years now, specifically because of the lacking colors.
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: TGD on February 03, 2021, 11:50:18 PM
Stumbled upon this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carcassonne-The-Phantom-Replicant-translucent-meeples-gray-pink-purple-sky-blue-/323827252503
that seems to be what I'm looking for, $16.50 shipping tho  :-\  :-\  :-\
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 04, 2021, 12:02:33 AM
Stumbled upon this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carcassonne-The-Phantom-Replicant-translucent-meeples-gray-pink-purple-sky-blue-/323827252503
that seems to be what I'm looking for, $16.50 shipping tho  :-\  :-\  :-\

Nice, I might order them too  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Meepledrone on February 04, 2021, 07:47:20 AM
You may also have a look to the acrylic 12-meeple set available on MeepleSource.com:

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMeepleSampler (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMeepleSampler)

(https://www.meeplesource.com/prodimages/New_Acrylic_Meeples_Sampler_large.jpg)

They also have a mini meeple version, just in case you want smaller phantoms for the Demo Spiel...  ;)

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMiniMeepleSampler (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMiniMeepleSampler)

If you don't want to get a sampler with all the 12 colors, you can also get spare ones in 16mm or in 12mm.

https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=45 (https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=45)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 04, 2021, 08:06:50 AM
You may also have a look to the acrylic 12-meeple set available on MeepleSource.com:

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMeepleSampler (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMeepleSampler)

(https://www.meeplesource.com/prodimages/New_Acrylic_Meeples_Sampler_large.jpg)

They also have a mini meeple version, just in case you want smaller phantoms for the Demo Spiel...  ;)

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMiniMeepleSampler (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMiniMeepleSampler)

If you don't want to get a sampler with all the 12 colors, you can also get spare ones in 16mm or in 12mm.

https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=45 (https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=45)

Those are nice, but no grey...   ???

I ordered a pack of the ones found by TGD  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: TGD on February 04, 2021, 08:08:23 AM
You may also have a look to the acrylic 12-meeple set available on MeepleSource.com:

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMeepleSampler (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMeepleSampler)

(https://www.meeplesource.com/prodimages/New_Acrylic_Meeples_Sampler_large.jpg)


Seen this one as well, but same story, missing grey…

If you don't want to get a sampler with all the 12 colors, you can also get spare ones in 16mm or in 12mm.

https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=45 (https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=45)

Spare ones? Where? I can only find 10-piece sets on this page.
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: totec55 on February 04, 2021, 08:36:16 AM
I purchased a few of the Ebay "Phantom Replicant Meeples" from the same seller as the previous posted link. They are good quality and work nicely as phantoms, however, they are not nearly as nice as the actual phantom meeples. In other words, they do the job and I would recommend them, but don't expect them to be as visually appealing as the originals! We usually use black or clear for grey.

I am going to order a set from MeepleSource myself. Thanks for the link!

Edit: I have attached pictures. The top row shows the official Carcassonne Phantoms, while the bottom row shows the ones ordered from the Ebay link. For anyone interested in specific Ebay colors pictured, as listed by the seller, they are (from left to right): orange, white, sky blue, purple, and brown.



Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: totec55 on February 08, 2021, 01:13:09 PM
I received my 12 translucent meeples from MeepleSource.com today. For anyone interested, they look to be exactly the same as the ones from Ebay. I'm guessing he is likely just a reseller. However, as I only ordered a few from the Ebay seller, I am curious to see the difference between the "grey" and "black" side by side if anyone orders the full set!
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 08, 2021, 01:15:55 PM
I received my 12 translucent meeples from MeepleSource.com today. For anyone interested, they look to be exactly the same as the ones from Ebay. I'm guessing he is likely just a reseller. However, as I only ordered a few from the Ebay seller, I am curious to see the difference between the "grey" and "black" side by side if anyone orders the full set!

I ordered the full set on ebay, I'll post a picture when I get them  ;)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Allograft on February 18, 2021, 07:12:47 PM
I ordered the 12mm set and meeplesource and asked the proprietor to add in a 12mm grey also to make the set of 13. The 12mm are smaller than the standard 16mm phantom translucents but the size makes a nice way of distinguishing from the teacher. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 18, 2021, 10:39:29 PM
I ordered the 12mm set and meeplesource and asked the proprietor to add in a 12mm grey also to make the set of 13. The 12mm are smaller than the standard 16mm phantom translucents but the size makes a nice way of distinguishing from the teacher. -  :pink-meeple:

I hope you'll get a grey one  :yellow-meeple:

I ordered the set (with grey) at ebay, but apparently US post services are quite overwhelmed since many months! I don't know when I'm gonna get those meeples  :yellow-meeple:

For stuffs I ordered in the US, it took 3-4 weeks from shipping point to US border, and 2-3 days from US border to my mailbox in Switzerland.
And for stuffs I shipped to the US (5 times in the past 6 months), it took 2 days from my local post office (lost in a small village) to US customs, and then a month from US customs to its final destination in the US.  :-\
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: totec55 on February 18, 2021, 11:52:57 PM
The mail is more than frustrating at the moment! I am in the US and some domestical mail will make it in 2 days from the other side of the country, while packages fairly local show up after 2 weeks. I have ordered quite a bit of international stuff and some of it showed up quicker! One package from Belgium arrived within a week (I'm still not sure how it got here so quickly!). The real kicker is a package I ordered from Cundco.de though. I placed the order on Dec 20th and it still hasnt shown up!

I hope your phantoms make it to you corinthiens13!
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Meepledrone on February 19, 2021, 05:15:53 AM
Plase keep us posted with all your findings!

Being an expansion completely neglected in C2, it seems to be gaining popularity in the backstage, so to speak.  ;)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Allograft on February 19, 2021, 10:53:22 PM
I ordered the 12mm set and meeplesource and asked the proprietor to add in a 12mm grey also to make the set of 13. The 12mm are smaller than the standard 16mm phantom translucents but the size makes a nice way of distinguishing from the teacher. -  :pink-meeple:

I hope you'll get a grey one  :yellow-meeple:

I ordered the set (with grey) at ebay, but apparently US post services are quite overwhelmed since many months! I don't know when I'm gonna get those meeples  :yellow-meeple:

For stuffs I ordered in the US, it took 3-4 weeks from shipping point to US border, and 2-3 days from US border to my mailbox in Switzerland.
And for stuffs I shipped to the US (5 times in the past 6 months), it took 2 days from my local post office (lost in a small village) to US customs, and then a month from US customs to its final destination in the US.  :-\

Yeah, international shipping is quite a bummer. It makes more sense to buy a large order because even small orders are expensive to ship...so might as well buy big
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 23, 2021, 11:25:00 AM
I ordered the 12mm set and meeplesource and asked the proprietor to add in a 12mm grey also to make the set of 13. The 12mm are smaller than the standard 16mm phantom translucents but the size makes a nice way of distinguishing from the teacher. -  :pink-meeple:

I hope you'll get a grey one  :yellow-meeple:

I ordered the set (with grey) at ebay, but apparently US post services are quite overwhelmed since many months! I don't know when I'm gonna get those meeples  :yellow-meeple:

For stuffs I ordered in the US, it took 3-4 weeks from shipping point to US border, and 2-3 days from US border to my mailbox in Switzerland.
And for stuffs I shipped to the US (5 times in the past 6 months), it took 2 days from my local post office (lost in a small village) to US customs, and then a month from US customs to its final destination in the US.  :-\

Got them today !  :D

I'll post comparison pictures soon  :yellow-meeple:

Sadly the only missing color is nature, instead there's sky blue and turquoise  :'(
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 24, 2021, 01:32:02 AM
So here are some comparison pictures.

The phantoms from ebay do not all have the same thickness (some are thiner), but strangely, every colors that are also available on meeplesource have the same thickness, maybe the set originally comes from meeplesource?).
Also, original phantoms have very sharp edges, those from ebay have more smooth rounded edges.

Sadly, there's no nature (light brown) phantom, if anyone knows where to get one?  ???

Most meeples on the pictures are originals from cundco, except the phantoms from ebay, and some teachers with special colors that came from spielmaterial.

(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4m7Fvtr49Y9I6DEnhrTlwbZvjwQx6wWYGEWUds8TuKxJJik0ai4nwy7D2tNazwkKirhwCaRMXaPQHVodO2cMiUyDe47mC70MBeyPFwnfOt9JkHtOz-Ga-1t6MF7l8yE7NiAFtvDyblAgx-X1eTso1zXtLzcfJQ1-9ghkMz3Ygsdfa3Cs5iFyXOAT9IZwyG_GhA?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)

Closeup:
(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mIHM10zCwhC5OKLYTvzvkudWNYafIyLF4L7KAXSyMd-TBq0bHqeK8sY-CuwTLI6CPQYonC4wXZQAlzH1nutpzbJ9MMZ2O2mfxA3zK4id-dnpWfj2MFOdRtWMtRqKg0wTvey9Dzv5StIlZKVGDgtaH1zqf93bxdM0F4FGMeyZacbb-0eqyvXVXAFF7j6ojJj20?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)

(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mj1f45GRbvEvFYL74GfxBoApXIJaoJeS0o2_FuouY334_qY5OCCIgr4fdrCZpuM9lXeFZsL7vuGJL5mB4HYOubvTS7dRUKX17eN6ZYvLVF7-9Efa8qArExpskYwYtBlkCsluGPgplXBJULpQSJS4t7N8q18-9X2Dt2koJRWTxrDeqEXUenH9sLYyazuK7elSi?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)

Closeup:
(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mCTWdLP3XldREp1wJq_iFfiqHUV0JkR2Hq-9ZztU-rrBcqnCKo5_FFAXdkv73dNnQ8peQL2MHZP1_lUnMQDKKHYzn5meV_lkEFLrpGfnUT_tA6_W7TF9LESaDpZiT3vVxy5yW7HubBuE3UiIMeo4TpD4t2DRPFvLHyYg6NaFHT4BPLCPvPQ-_OcQGxCioT7t_?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Meepledrone on February 24, 2021, 06:56:15 AM
Great comparison, corinthiens13!

+1 merit from me.
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Allograft on February 24, 2021, 05:05:55 PM
Nice. Your ones for the teacher/spielmaterial, there are only 8 colors on spielmaterial at the moment https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparente-meeples-17889.html

Did they used to have more because it looks like you have 13 colors? -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: totec55 on February 24, 2021, 08:42:55 PM
Great pictures corinthiens13! Could you post a side by side closeup comparison picture of the black Cundco phantom, Black Ebay/Meeple Source phantom, and gray Ebay/meeple Source phantom when you have the time?
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 24, 2021, 09:26:56 PM
Nice. Your ones for the teacher/spielmaterial, there are only 8 colors on spielmaterial at the moment https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparente-meeples-17889.html

Did they used to have more because it looks like you have 13 colors? -  :pink-meeple:

The link you mentioned is phantoms, not teachers.  :yellow-meeple:

(phantoms are coloured inside too, teachers are cristal clear inside)

Teachers are here: https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/transparent-meeples.html)

Great pictures corinthiens13! Could you post a side by side closeup comparison picture of the black Cundco phantom, Black Ebay/Meeple Source phantom, and gray Ebay/meeple Source phantom when you have the time?

Ok, I'll post one soon  ;)

Great comparison, corinthiens13!

+1 merit from me.

Thanks  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 24, 2021, 11:00:44 PM
Great pictures corinthiens13! Could you post a side by side closeup comparison picture of the black Cundco phantom, Black Ebay/Meeple Source phantom, and gray Ebay/meeple Source phantom when you have the time?

Here are closeups of the black and grey figures  ;)

(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mTUqyhHusGHYLrrMUe2etdvn9kncab3VEfIjgLosXWqClBkaI0vq0dQX_W0FP1oJ3gZesk5umZg2Q7AZaEFZG2firEyV6fP3MgDp3Vc36Zb9BOCLhJrqyQSE_O7kwBIItniSBXnrFWBxjGuQ4reBhQIbSSKFUVULvcCqdhu2ekK8eLhsRQKHC1koQh9n_Xubh?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)

(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mZpVRaK4LqjfbZsFA7Ew13DSwBz8DHWPHdyanPHKAs2Oy52BgTDI7OryDEuAJhloS93wejVV6bLCPovAgsC-Y6MUKnoVqfYp7VBuFQbnQVu3GQLFDDx8xtmPUVEKSlC671PMlM1ylZvQBGOxNbW6o_QdzjkQjf6Gx-LzV2EszSc0_JXyAggXHgHBG7ZctkL6r?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)

(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4miwktbmTD-ZuqL1BU6C1HQFGJaFwNfWCMwo9PclWQIhlqj4NOA4J90z63ifAVDgEE6r6YzlBEJ-smTHvod0nyUsyxUyFNnUpX3-vtQ4iBNLbAI5u4uAw4ATRcA7veyRzwQfDBZMm8V6gWtgdFBlw0w_d3y4oHpccDQiMDGaMT0Dc_Qv_7-KCMN35LjIhHDZ_s?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: totec55 on February 25, 2021, 10:05:00 AM
Great pictures corinthiens13! Could you post a side by side closeup comparison picture of the black Cundco phantom, Black Ebay/Meeple Source phantom, and gray Ebay/meeple Source phantom when you have the time?

Here are closeups of the black and grey figures  ;)

Thank you. I may go ahead and order the gray Ebay one.

+1 merit from me.
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 25, 2021, 10:28:06 AM
Great pictures corinthiens13! Could you post a side by side closeup comparison picture of the black Cundco phantom, Black Ebay/Meeple Source phantom, and gray Ebay/meeple Source phantom when you have the time?

Here are closeups of the black and grey figures  ;)

Thank you. I may go ahead and order the gray Ebay one.

+1 merit from me.

Thanks  ;)

And if anyone knows where to find a nature (light brown) phantom, I'm interested  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Meepledrone on February 25, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
The only one I know is the one from Cundco.de that you may also find on spielematerial.de but you already have that one, right?
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 25, 2021, 11:04:39 AM
The only one I know is the one from Cundco.de that you may also find on spielematerial.de but you already have that one, right?

Do you have the link?

I have nature/light brown teacher, but not phantom (see the comparison picture I posted).
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Meepledrone on February 25, 2021, 12:10:15 PM
I'm afraid yhe light brown figure is the light brown teacher/meeple you already have (the same as on cundco.de):

https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparent-meeples.html)

(https://www.spielematerial.de/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/a/car52-001.jpg)

The other phantoms on sielmateriela.de are here (no light brown):

https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparente-meeples-17889.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparente-meeples-17889.html)

(https://www.spielematerial.de/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/a/car52b_1_.jpg)
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 25, 2021, 12:49:56 PM
I'm afraid yhe light brown figure is the light brown teacher/meeple you already have (the same as on cundco.de):

https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparent-meeples.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparent-meeples.html)

(https://www.spielematerial.de/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/a/car52-001.jpg)

The other phantoms on sielmateriela.de are here (no light brown):

https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparente-meeples-17889.html (https://www.spielematerial.de/en/games/carcassonne/transparente-meeples-17889.html)

(https://www.spielematerial.de/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/a/car52b_1_.jpg)

That's what I thought, seems light brown phantom do not exist anywhere  :'(
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Meepledrone on February 25, 2021, 01:03:11 PM
I'm afraid not.

I use a mix of Meeplesouce phantoms and Cundco teachers as phantoms for their colors and everyone is happy. Do not overthink it.   
Title: Re: Where to get phantom in bonus colors?
Post by: Allograft on February 25, 2021, 01:55:56 PM
Do not overthink it.

I believe Frankie Goes to Hollywood gave similar advice