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Title: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Bumsakalaka on April 28, 2020, 09:10:31 AM
New expansion is available on cundco.de
The Land Surveyours - Print and Play

It looks like official rework of fan expansion Seasons ;-)

https://cundco.de/en/mini-expansions/carcassonne/336/carcassonne-the-land-surveyors?c=47

Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: DrMeeple on April 28, 2020, 09:43:17 AM
I was looking for on the rules the most famous sentence of HiG and... here it is!!

'This expansion has been designed for the CARCASSONNE base game, therefore its rules still apply.
You can combine the land surveyors with other expansions, however this has not yet been tested and you’d have to try it at your own risk, without any official rules'


Hahahahha This made my day... Oh god... HiG seems to be neglecting interaction with expansions and wants meepledrone to do it for them...
We want HiG to hire you Meepledrone!!  ;) >:D
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 28, 2020, 09:44:55 AM
Did you see they also published the rules?  ;D

* English: https://cundco.de/media/pdf/07/33/d3/The-land-surveyors-EN.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/07/33/d3/The-land-surveyors-EN.pdf)
* German:
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/0e/86/93/Die-Landvermesser-SR-DE.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/0e/86/93/Die-Landvermesser-SR-DE.pdf)
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: DrMeeple on April 28, 2020, 09:46:29 AM
Did you see they also published the rules?  ;D

* English: https://cundco.de/media/pdf/07/33/d3/The-land-surveyors-EN.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/07/33/d3/The-land-surveyors-EN.pdf)
* German:
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/0e/86/93/Die-Landvermesser-SR-DE.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/0e/86/93/Die-Landvermesser-SR-DE.pdf)

Of course! Thats because I post the sentence!! Because there it is!  >:D
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 28, 2020, 09:53:43 AM
They could just have placed the page on Cundco without the files to download...

Or even, only in German file like the PnP Demo Spiel...
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: DrMeeple on April 28, 2020, 09:54:10 AM
Btw Someone offer to conver on C1 style? I will wait to print it then...emoji code16]

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Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: DrMeeple on April 28, 2020, 09:55:02 AM
They could just have placed the page on Cundco without the files to download...
You are right.

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Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 28, 2020, 09:58:22 AM
Btw Someone offer to conver on C1 style? I will wait to print it then...emoji code16]

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

Ha ha ha! I was wondering when you would ask...
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: coldhands on April 28, 2020, 07:50:45 PM
Hum.... If there anyone here who had the chance to playtest this mini-expansion?
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Bumsakalaka on April 29, 2020, 12:38:47 AM
We Played it. It's confusing. Some +1 some -1
1. You need to change every scoring tile for every feature after scoring any feature. It also include 0 points for finished city when any meeple was inside city.
2. It's very quick and you can't plan, because while it will be your turn, usually it was once or multiple times (depends on players), scoring tiles were changed.
3. But it's fun, and it's fine to play just for play, not to win.

So when you want to have fun, it's good.
When you want to use something like this, but you want to win, then choose Seasons, this is better for planning.

C2: http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3723.msg55579#msg55579 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3723.msg55579#msg55579)
C1:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=105 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=105)

Suggestion: I thing it will be good to create more scoring tiles as fan expansion, because it's 5+4+3. It can be more fun with more, like confitional tile if road is smaller than 3 get -1 if road if larger +1. For example.
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Bumsakalaka on April 29, 2020, 12:49:43 AM
I thing, there will me more house rules. Like change only that scoring tile which was used. It can be defensive specialy for for 0 for city or -1 for every city tile arround monastery.

And It will need to be created scoring tile for other features like
Green forest, Oceans, Montains, etc.
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: coldhands on April 29, 2020, 01:56:52 AM
I was thinking about printing a double set of scoring table
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: DIN0 on April 29, 2020, 04:22:48 AM
Oh..OK. When I first read the title my PTSD from Carcassonne Mayflower kicked in...
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 29, 2020, 06:14:34 AM
I'm trying to put my thoughts in order when all this additional scoring warping has to be combined with other expansions... Roads and cities have a couple of dark spots...
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: DrMeeple on April 29, 2020, 06:29:35 AM
I'm trying to put my thoughts in order when all this additional scoring warping has to be combined with other expansions... Roads and cities have a couple of dark spots...
Remember, HiG told you that you can't think beyond basic game... It's on your own risk!! Your head could explode trying expansions with this... Hahahaha

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 29, 2020, 06:49:16 AM
Yes, my friend!

But life is much more complicated than the base game itself...  >:D
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Halfling on April 29, 2020, 06:54:23 AM
I agree, base game only is for tournament play, social play needs more tiles.
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 29, 2020, 06:55:46 AM
Base game + 1 labyrinth tile is enough for a long discussion... I can tell you  :o
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: wolnic on April 29, 2020, 07:18:00 AM
What about Base Game + 1 halfling?
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on April 29, 2020, 07:21:38 AM
Is that a low blow?  :o
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Christianmocking on April 29, 2020, 03:46:18 PM
We need to take control: they could arrange this so much better:)


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Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: ymbuser on October 19, 2021, 06:05:30 AM
Got a reply from HiG on whether there are plans to manufacture a cardboard ('CarcBoard') version of the PnP:

"For now there are no plans for a punchboard production of this mini-expansion.
We hope you can enjoy the handcrafted version as well :)"

Up to us to keep crafting!
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Weetek23 on October 19, 2021, 06:19:18 AM
Hmmm... I was pleasantly surprised by the interesting twist this mini-expansion added to our games. It was a first PnP I dared to handcraft, partially as it was not necessary to include the result of my lame try directly into the game tiles. The outcome was actually not that bad, a combination of good quality color print on a self-adhesive paper and a cardboard of a suitable thickness worked out quite well. Still I thought this miniexpansion would deserve its manufactured version. Some mentioned previously that this may have been included into a Spielbox magazine issue that covers the anniversary edition. But not. A pitty.
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on October 19, 2021, 07:52:07 AM
You can also try this simulator as a digital version:  ;D

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Land_Surveyors_Simulator (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Land_Surveyors_Simulator)
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: NGC 54 on October 19, 2021, 08:47:00 AM
Got a reply from HiG on whether there are plans to manufacture a cardboard ('CarcBoard') version of the PnP:

"For now there are no plans for a punchboard production of this mini-expansion.
We hope you can enjoy the handcrafted version as well :)"

Up to us to keep crafting!

Of course, as The Land Surveyors destroys the game.
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: Meepledrone on October 19, 2021, 09:31:52 AM
Got a reply from HiG on whether there are plans to manufacture a cardboard ('CarcBoard') version of the PnP:

"For now there are no plans for a punchboard production of this mini-expansion.
We hope you can enjoy the handcrafted version as well :)"

Up to us to keep crafting!

Of course, as The Land Surveyors destroys the game.

What is your experience and thoughts about The Land Surveyors?
Title: Re: The Land Surveyors - PnP official expansion
Post by: NGC 54 on October 19, 2021, 12:17:34 PM
Got a reply from HiG on whether there are plans to manufacture a cardboard ('CarcBoard') version of the PnP:

"For now there are no plans for a punchboard production of this mini-expansion.
We hope you can enjoy the handcrafted version as well :)"

Up to us to keep crafting!

Of course, as The Land Surveyors destroys the game.

What is your experience and thoughts about The Land Surveyors?

I think that an expansion should not alterate the core rules (at least not for the entire game); if you add an expansion, you should be still able to place a tile, place a meeple (optionally) and make the ordinary scoring. When playing with The Land Surveyors, you are no longer able to score a feature as in the base game. For example, The Messages or The Gifts do not alterate these rules, so they are playable in a Mega-Carcassonne; only add to the rules. The Land Surveyors is an interesting expansion, but for me, is only good for an excentric game.