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Carc Central Community => Official Rules => Topic started by: Halfling on March 31, 2016, 08:36:38 AM
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I have a scoring question for this new expansion. If a road starts at one German Cathedral and ends at a different German Cathedral is the scoring of the road still 2 points per tile?
In theory a new Labyrinth tile could be surrounded by 4 German Cathedrals. If I am lucky enough to have placed a meeple on the Labyrinth tile does it score 10 points or more than 10?
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My initial thought would be no. Am not at home to check.
Following all previous rules such as Inns and Cathedrals it's safe too presume they don't.
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I would think 10 points for that.
Is there a rule that prevents putting the cathedrals together like there is for the german castles?
German Castles and German Cathedrals together can score some really decent road bonuses.
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I have created a small riddle - the score for the German Cathedrals - but still without the result... >:D
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Top red is 11
Green is 9
Top blue is 4
Yellow on castle tile is 7
Middle Red is 4
Bottom blue is 12
I think each of the yellow and the green on cathedrals get 9 but I am not sure as I haven't studied the rules yet
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Blimey! I make it:
Top red - 11
Top yellow - 9
Top green - 9
Lower yellow - 7
Top blue - 4
Lower red - 4
Lower green - 8
Lower blue - 12
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Why is the lower green only 8
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Why is the lower green only 8
One point for each road tile, multiple roads coming from the Cathedral count as one road, the Cathedral tile counts twice. So the road at the top is worth two, and the other is worth six, five tiles but the Cathedral counts twice.
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@kettlefish: I'm assuming the Cathedrals are meant to have buildings on the road and that the roads are separate!
Rules don't mention anything about 2 cathedrals, so I'm going for each applies its rule (eg: 2 points per tile).
Here's my guess left to right:
Red: 11 (2 points per tile + 3)
Yellow: 12(1 point per road + 2 point for inn)
Green: 9 (3 points per road with inn)
Yellow: 7 (2 points per road + 3)
Blue: 8 (2 points per road, 2 points per road)
Red: 4 (2 per road)
Green: 8 (1 point per road)
Blue: 24 (2 points per road, 2 points per road)
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Here is the result:
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+1 Kettlefish - thank you for the answers! It looks like the CAR will need to make clear multiple Cathedrals don't both act on the road, but I guess it's like most other things!
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The Archbishop scores for the inn?! :O
Excellent!
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An Archbishop earns 2 points for each road segment with an inn on it. It is in the extra rules section about interactions with other expansions.
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An Archbishop earns 2 points for each road segment with an inn on it. It is in the extra rules section about interactions with other expansions.
Probably should have looked at that while working out the riddle!
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I didn't know the Inn stacked for the Archbishop. Thanks Kettlefish for the diagram. Merit to you!
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here is one more small riddle about score for an unfinished German Cathedral at game end.
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Red: 12 (3 points per tile + 3)
Blue: 3 (cathedrals only give 2points when completed, unfinished 1 point)
Green: 6 + 3 + 0 + 3 = 12
Yellow: 0
Blue: 6 (2 points per tile).
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Blue (left) = 3 pts
Blue (bottom) = 4 pts
Green = 11 pts
Yellow = 0 pts
Red = 12 pts
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here is the result:
NOTE: This answer only covers the rules for the classic edition (C1) including the clarifications from 10/2015. For an answer including the rules of the new edition (C2), please, read this post below:
https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg80347#msg80347 (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg80347#msg80347)
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Bah! I'm still not playing with the rules that count two Halflings as separate tiles. It's just ridiculous. I'm glad I got the score right when treating that tile as one.
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Kettlefish's diagrams have led me to 2 conclusions.
1. Placing a robber rather than an archbishop is probably the better play early in the game.
2. We won't be playing Inns with German Cathedrals.
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I have a question on you:
How many points players gain at the end game?
Yellow - ? Points
Blue -? Points
Red -? Points
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Blue = 0 points incomplete Inn
Red scores, 15 + 3 = 19
Yellow scores: 10 + 0 = 10
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Blue = 0 points incomplete Inn
Red scores, 15 + 3 = 19
Yellow scores: 15 + 0 = 15
Surely Yellow only scores 10 points? One point for each red road segment and then one point for each segment being on an inn: 5 segments x2 =10pts
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Indeed!
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Yellow maybe get 11 points? :)
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Looks like a good one for the CAR and the rules review.
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Wouldn't Red get 18 because of the bonus points yielded from the Castle? If the Inn carries on through the Tunnel, then surely Red would have the road claimed next to the Castle and so could get the bonus 3 points too
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The solution for this quiz:
* Blue scores 0 points
- Incomplete road with inn = 0 points
* Red scores 15 + 3 = 18 points
- Completed Road German Cathedral and Inn: 5 road segments * 3 points = 15 points
- Road ends at German Cathedral: 3 points.
* Yellow scores 10 + 0 + 1 = 11 points
- Completed road to the east with red tunnel and inn = 5 road segments * 2 points = 10 points
- Incomplete road to the south with blue tunnel and an inn = 0 points
- Incomplete road to the west = 1 point (road segments on German Cathedral tile count individually)
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here is the result:
(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2580.0;attach=5310)
The answer to this riddle reflected the C1 rules after the clarifications from 10/2015, where each tile was counted individually no matter its shape. This post shows this rules update for Halflings in C1, now outdated for C2:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2125.msg29727#msg29727 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2125.msg29727#msg29727)
But later, HiG provided clarifications with additional changes for C2 (overriding the latest rules for C1 and returning to the original ones from 2014). Here you can see a topic discussing the rules updates for Halflings and double-sized tiles:
https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5021.0 (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5021.0)
The image attached reflects both rulesets and their impact on the answer to the riddle.