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What would be the best expanion(s) for the next Expansion League?

Count, King, and Robber
8 (42.1%)
Carcassonne Minis
7 (36.8%)
Go back through all major expansions starting with Inns & Cathedrals
4 (21.1%)
Something else (please post below)
0 (0%)
Single expansion from Carcassonne Minis
0 (0%)

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2017, 05:39:57 AM »
I think Count, King and Robber sounds like a good idea but unfortunately I cannot vote for this option because of the incorrect implementation of the pig tile rule in the River II expansion. I would also like to ask MrNumbers not to start a league with this expansion until this is fixed. Ask Farin, it shouldn't be too difficult to release a new version with just this fix. Thanks!
Our two discussions about this (one and two) ended with nothing. Nevertheless I will try to ask Farin to implement this single feature and hope that he will agree to do it.
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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2017, 05:40:38 AM »
I think Count, King and Robber sounds like a good idea but unfortunately I cannot vote for this option because of the incorrect implementation of the pig tile rule in the River II expansion.

What is the incorrect implementation?

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2017, 05:43:24 AM »
What is the incorrect implementation?

Go check the links MrNumbers just mentionned

Our two discussions about this (one and two) ended with nothing. Nevertheless I will try to ask Farin to implement this single feature and hope that he will agree to do it.

Great, thanks. I think it is worth asking. Then I expect one of these 3 possible replies:

1) Yes, sure no problem. Give me a few days.
2) No sorry I don't have time. Busy with other projects.
3) well, it's not that easy. It involves merging code and other manipulations... You'll have to wait for the next major release.

EDIT: you can find his email on the JCloisterZone webpage.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 05:54:46 AM by Jéré »

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2017, 06:09:57 AM »
Can someone describe the precise fix required and the current behaviour?  I'm sure I can get it fixed, and patch JCZ if necessary.

Does the pig-farm get counted, even though it shouldn't?  I think the feature can be disabled.

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2017, 07:24:05 AM »
Can someone describe the precise fix required and the current behaviour?  I'm sure I can get it fixed, and patch JCZ if necessary.

Does the pig-farm get counted, even though it shouldn't?  I think the feature can be disabled.

 Oh yes. True, I forgot JCZ is open-source. Thanks Decar for pointing this out.

So, the quick and dirty fix for the league would be that the pig herd tile does not give a +1 point bonus to the cities in a farm.

The correct implementation would be that this bonus is only enabled when the T&B expansion is used. Best implementation would be to let the user decide by adding an option to always enable the pig herd bonus (like it currently works in JCZ).


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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2017, 07:42:42 AM »
I'll see what I can do, will probably be over the weekend!

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2017, 07:43:00 AM »
In this case I guess the options for it would be:

- Always On (as is the case at the moment)
- Always Off (as we would wish it to be for this league)
- Depends on Expansions (off by default but on if T & B is also included)

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2017, 07:45:04 AM »
I think the GQ expansion has the same issue. I may attempt to kill 2 birds with my rock  :(y)

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2017, 10:31:16 AM »
Some of us missed I&c and t&b first time around.

I prefer the pig farm in ck&r to always add to farms.
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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2017, 01:56:30 AM »
Disabling the RiverII and GQ pig farms was straight-forward:

You can download no-pigsfarms JCloisterzone JAR file.

Just note: they are currently permanently disabled; I'll have a look at enabling a toggle this weekend.

I gave it a quick go locally and it seems correct.
What I'm not sure about is what happens when a host of a game has the patch and a client does not.  I recommend NOT doing that :p

Let me know if there's any issues.

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2017, 02:03:55 AM »
Excellent work! (merit +1)

Will test when I arrive home. I can now vote for Count, King and Robber.   :D

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2017, 12:19:28 PM »
I voted for the Mini expansions instead of Count, King and Robber simply because of the fact that the City of Carcassonne is not implemented in JCZ. In my opinion that is the element of the 6th expansion which has the biggest influence on the final outcome of the game, without it we couldn't really call the competion as "Count, King and Robber" league.
First I think we'd better ask farin (even if he's busy these days) if he can see any chance of developing the City of Carcassonne in the near future (let's say within a year). I think we shouldn't start a league for this expansion until we don't get a definitive negative answer (or no answer at all) from him.

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2017, 12:40:18 PM »
I think we shouldn't start a league for this expansion until we don't get a definitive negative answer (or no answer at all) from him.
OK, I will ask Farin this question too.

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2017, 04:45:58 PM »
Like halfling, I would like the opportunity to play the first expansions, as we noobies missed out the first time around. Sorry to be selfish!  :-[

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Re: Poll: Next Expansion League
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2017, 04:54:10 PM »
Having thought about this a bit more, how about a league where everyone plays home and away, and the home player picks one major expansion of choice. This might add a bit of variety.


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