Hi all,
I hope you all enjoyed Easter.
Thank you all for participating in this tiny quiz. I will proceed with the solution below.
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Please help the Easter Bunny to score this turn so they all can go hunting for some Easter eggs together. The situation is this:
* The Blue Abbot is on a monastery and the fairy is assigned to it.
* The Blue player player places a new Halfling and completes a city
* Later the Blue Abbot is removed and scored and the Blue Phantom is placed on the Halfling just placed.
The Easter Bunny would like to apply the new rules for C2 Halfling just published by HiG. Can you tell how many points does the Blue player score in each round of scoring this turn?
Please post you answers here!
Note: I'm using my C1 Halflings just waiting for my brand new C2 Halflings to arrive...
The following table summarizes the result for the 3 scoring rulesets for scoring Halflings.
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Rules from 2014 (possibly misinterpreted due to the lack of details in the rules):
- Monasteries: 1 or 2 triangles in a square space score as 1 tile for monasteries
- Roads and cities: no details provided so the the rules for monasteries were considered for these features too (possibly misinterpretation).
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Rules based on clarifications from 10/2015:
- Roads, cities and monasteries: triangular tiles are considered individually for the scoring of these features, no matter they may share the same square space.
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Rules from 2020 (revisiting the rules from 2014, with some more details in some areas)
- Monasteries: 1 or 2 triangles in a square space score as 1 tile for monasteries, so they consider occupied spaces.
- Roads and cities: are scored as per the normal rules. If so, triangular tiles are considered individually for the scoring of these features.
The table details the rounds and steps involved in the scoring but as you can see there is a mismatch with vineyards and the fairy as they are bonus points that would be misplaced if applied to the Abbot. The quiz was testing several aspects:
* How to score features: Results vary in this case depending on the rules for Halflings being applied.
* When happens the scoring: This is important to decide what bonus points are applicable.
Nasty, huh?
Round / Step | | Element | | C1 Rules 2014 (misinterpreted?) | | C1 Clarifications from 10/2015 | | C2 Rules 2020 (rules from 2014 revisited) | | Comments
|
Round #1A | | | | | | | | | | |
Step 1A
| | Fairy assigned to abbot | | 1 point | | 1 point | | 1 point | | [1] |
Round #2 | | | | | | | | | | |
Step 2B-1 | | Abbot removed | | 8 points (1 point per space with 1 or 2 tiles (or half) in the vicinity, including the monastery) | | 10 points (1 point per tile) | | 8 points (1 point per occupied square space in the vicinity including the monastery) | | [2] |
Step 3B | | Vineyard adjacent to monastery | | N/A | | N/A | | N/A | | [3] |
Step 3B
| | Fairy assigned to abbot | | N/A | | N/A | | N/A | | [4] |
Round #3 | | | | | | | | | | |
Step 3B | | City scored by phantom | | 4 points (2 tiles, one with 2 triangles) | | 6 points (3 tiles) | | 6 points (3 tiles) | | [5] |
| | Total | | 13 points | | 17 points | | 15 points | | | |
Some comments to each row here:
[1] The standard 1-point fairy bonus is applied at the beginning of
Blue's turn. The fairy was assigned to the abbot in a previous turn.
[2]
Blue's abbot is placed on an incomplete monastery (on 1 square tile) surrounded by 9 additional tiles occupying 7 square spaces:
- 2 square tiles
- 6 triangular tiles in 3 square spaces
- 1 double-sized tile occupying 2 adjacent square spaces to the monastery
Just remember we are removing and scoring the abbot. This means we are scoring a figure, not the feature. This action takes place in phase
2. Placing a meeple. And regular feature scoring is performed later in phase
3. Scoring a feature.
[3] The vineyard bonus is applied to monasteries when completed and scored in phase
3. Scoring a feature. As mentioned in note [2], this is not the case, since we are scoring a figure earlier, not a feature. Therefore, the vineyard bonus cannot be applied to the scoring of
Blue's abbot.
[4] The fairy 3-point bonus is applied to assigned meeples on features scored in phase
3. Scoring a feature. As mentioned in note [2], this is not the case, since we are scoring a figure earlier, not a feature. Therefore, the fairy scoring bonus cannot be applied to the scoring of
Blue's abbot.
[5] The completed city scored by
Blue's phantom has 3 tiles:
- 1 square tile
- 2 triangular tiles sharing the same square space
Depending on the rules applied for Halflings, the scoring will differ.
What do you think of all the tricky details hidden in these few tiles?