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Title: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on July 07, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
Tower League

the 2nd round

Here is the list for the groups E1 - E5:

Please post all the usual results, screenshots and match reports in this thread.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 07, 2016, 01:05:55 PM
Just messaged my group. Looks like I'm the only one not in Europe.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 08, 2016, 11:05:48 AM
I also sent a message to my group with details about timezones and my availability.

In the meantime, if participants from other groups fancy a practice game, feel free to contact me. Cheers.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 09, 2016, 06:41:09 AM
Me and ny1050220 have just finished the first game of group E3.
It was another game where luck (who gets the last tower tile) decided the final outcome. If Yi had drawn it, he could have captured one of my farmers from the 18 pt farm, and could have won the game.

:violet-meeple: Leven vs :blue-meeple: ny1050220 84:75
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 09, 2016, 07:03:47 AM
Well done for getting the ball rolling guys, and congratulations on your win Leven! :violet-meeple: :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 09, 2016, 11:48:10 AM
I'm afraid I've noticed a JCZ bug that has effect on our league game results.
I gained only 4 points for this incomplete city although it's made up of 4 tiles and includes a pennant as well.
I think the implemetation of the CCCC tile with pennant and tower base is wrong. It works as if the pennant wasn't there.
I will report the bug to farin.

Edit:
Fortunately this bug had no effect on the final outcome of our league games so far. There has been only two games so far where the point difference was not higher that two points and in both cases this CCCC tower tile was situated in an unoccupied incomplete city.
But how to handle this error in our forthcoming games? Should we manually record the lost points of this pennant?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 09, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
Edit:
Fortunately this bug had no effect on the final outcome of our league games so far. There has been only two games so far where the point difference was not higher that two points and in both cases this CCCC tower tile was situated in an unoccupied incomplete city.
But how to handle this error in our forthcoming games? Should we manually record the lost points of this pennant?

Thanks for pointing this out Leven, I'm surprised that it hadn't been spotted before now.

Even if this doesn't change the result of the games played so far, there's a chance it could still have had an effect for example in Group B where ny1050220 and I had 4 points each and just 1 PD between us. This could have made all the difference to our results, but we may never know which way round we should be as it might be the case that we don't remember who scored from this tile in the event of completed cities that aren't shown in the final scoring. If anyone in particular is bothered by this, and can demonstrate that it would have changed final outcomes then I'm happy for them to do so. But in most cases I think it will be irrelevant and is probably too late to adjust for anyway.

My recommendation would be that we play on as we have been doing so far and just ignore the pennant (i.e. scores are correct). I know this means that we're not following the game as closely as we could be but it would require a lot of score adjusting for the sake of 1 point and would mean that the 2nd half of the competition is scored differently to the first (albeit only slightly). I prefer to keep things consistent, but I fully expect others to disagree and then there be an important game which is won or lost by 1 point that could have been the other way round if not the missing/ unimplemented pennant and then everyone will argue and we'll all go our separate ways never to speak again.

EDIT: I did a check in all games involving either ny1050220 or me in Group B to see if this made any difference to final PD. Here are my findings:

+1 for danisthirty against Halfling
+1 for danisthirty against Chuck
No difference for danisthirty vs. ny1050220 (unclaimed)
+1 for danisthirty against monwil

No difference for ny1050220 against Halfling (unclaimed)
-1 for ny1050220 against monwil
unknown for ny1050220 against Chuck (city complete)

So for me, my PD was actually 3 points lower than it should have been. I can live with that. for ny1050220 it was somewhere between -3 and +1 depending on who completed the city including this tile in his game with Chuck. In any case, it wouldn't be enough to overtake me so I'm satisfied that our results are the right way around.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Hounk on July 10, 2016, 02:49:00 AM
It's of course your decision, but I would suggest not bothering with tiny PD errors, but nevertheless scan games with tight scores, if the outcome might have been different because of the bug. After all, everybody was taking the pennant into concern in their game. It is not like we were playing a variant with a slightly different designed tile.

As far, as I can tell, group C is "clean". There was only one game, Rosco vs. zone2, with a PD of 2 (which might have been tied, if the pennant was scored in-game), and the area with this pennant was not scored at all. Hopefully, the pennant was not assigned by JCZ to the other city, because then it sure might have made a difference in this game. I doubt, that a 3 tile city without pennant scoring 8 points would have been unnoticed by both players, but in this case, it would be even harder to backtrack the games.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on July 10, 2016, 03:10:14 AM
Each player in the groups A-D had the choice to inform the community during their games - or after their played games - they didn't tell anything during the groups phase A-D - in my opinion: no change of the score now.
If the players in groups E1-E5 find such error - please write it into your game review to your screenshot - then it will come into the x-score lists.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Hounk on July 10, 2016, 03:20:22 AM
As far, as I can tell, there were no games, which were decided by this tile. (Unless the pennant is assigned to the wrong city segment.) In Group A there was only one game, MrNumbers vs. khalidq, which came that close, and the segment was not occupied there, in Group D, none of the scores came to a 2 point difference at all.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 10, 2016, 06:41:25 AM
I'm ok with keeping the scores as they are and play the rest of the tournament with the bug. It's relatively minor.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on July 10, 2016, 01:15:38 PM
My opinion is to leave group stage as it is, but to play the rest of the tournament manually correcting the score, the same way we did for fairy bug in P&D League.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: khalidqasrawi on July 10, 2016, 03:15:33 PM
E2 Group Game
khalidqasrawi :red-meeple: 92 : 79  :blue-meeple: danisthirty

Tight game that I felt to be losing nearly up to the end.

It was one of those starts when 20 moves in, you wonder how you are so far behind and why you're fighting pointlessly to glom a monstrous city.
All through the middle game there didn't seem to be much clear strategy, at least on my side.  The farmers were frequently subject to Tower Power.  My first piece of luck was getting the tower CCCC tile which allowed me to claim a little of the larger city.  The rest of that city was wasted.  Whilst Dan was working the east farm situation I opportunistically grabbed the north west.  I was able to turn that into the largest farm with the tiles I turned.  The game was mine.

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Thanks for the game and the write-up khalidqasrawi! :) :(y)

There isn't much I can add. It was a close game throughout, and although I started to build a slight lead from the midway point, khalid drew that tile and grabbed a significantly-sized city to put us equal again with about 20 tiles to go...

The towers were a pain for grabbing my farmers but it works both ways I suppose and I was able to nab a few of khalid's meeples too. Overall though, as enjoyable as the game was, I definitely felt like I'd lost to the player rather than the tiles. He always had a strategy and every tile placement had a purpose. Compared to my randomly grabbing whatever was available each time, he definitely deserved the win.

Congrats khalid!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 10, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
I notice that the cccc tile with a tower is in a finished city. Did you guys remember whether the pennant was properly scored?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 10, 2016, 04:10:19 PM
I notice that the cccc tile with a tower is in a finished city. Did you guys remember whether the pennant was properly scored?

It was an extra 2 points to khalid. It didn't influence the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 10, 2016, 04:23:52 PM
It was an extra 2 points to khalid. It didn't influence the outcome of the game.
I suppose this means the program neglected the pennant?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: khalidqasrawi on July 11, 2016, 01:50:50 AM
I didn't notice if it was correctly scored or not.  Given the nature of the bug, I guess my score would have been higher by 2.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 11, 2016, 02:04:21 AM
I didn't notice if it was correctly scored or not.  Given the nature of the bug, I guess my score would have been higher by 2.

I think you got 12 for it rather than 14 but I "filmed" the game using some screen recording software so I can check for sure...
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Merlin_89 on July 12, 2016, 03:35:37 PM
We kicked off plays in E1 group!

98  :yellow-meeple: Merlin_89 - Rosco  :red-meeple: 97

OMG. There was everything, literally!

I had good start, from the very beginning I felt good because I scored... small cities, medium cities, whole map. I have built moderate advantage in points. Rosco was fighting and he was using all his opportunities to catch me.

Fighting for lower field was big part of this game. I started it, and Rosco needed to get in, kick me out, whatever... He had success with inserting his farmer. I added my 2nd, Rosco took him with ease. My starting farmer was safe, good distance from nearest tower (3 spaces)... Stake was too high, Rosco started that tower, but I was vigilant and stopped when it reached 2nd stage. I lost another meeple to stop tower, but Rosco lost moves and tower pieces. It wasn't end, Rosco took that tower guardian as prisoner... I put him back, Rosco took him, I put him back. Crazy, right... But field was worth 21 points.

Ending belonged to Rosco. He scored lucky and quick points on cloister and road (9+5), completed city... and like that he bridged score gap between us. He had 2 smaller farms, but in the end not that small... Last tiles were deciding... Rosco got RRFF (road turn), 3 points for road (but I'd scored 9 with it, farm on top). And last tile of the game, I got CFFF, I could complete city for 8 points with it (but also added 3 to Rosco - his farm). I believe, Rosco would have won by one point if we switched last 2 tiles...

BUT.....!!!!!! There is also case of flawed (buggy) tile, which obviously had to be in play in this crazy game... In my possession.

Rosco, thanks for this ONE!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on July 13, 2016, 01:25:23 AM
E1
merlin and I had our game last night.(thanks for waiting so late)
The game started well for me, I rained tiles tower and soon could catch 5 meeples merlin.

I stayed calm and put my meeples Try a safe.
merlin fight to the end doing magic with meeples who returned to his box,
creating a farm of 15 points and 3 monasteries.

happy for this game, but I must admit that tiles tipped the balance in my favor.

 :red-meeple: Jacobo:119 *  :yellow-meeple: Merlin89:84
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 13, 2016, 02:16:29 AM
E5
Played with Chuck last night:

Jéré  133  -  Chuck  92

It could have been easily another nightmare for me but luck was on my side this time...

Turning point is when Chuck captured my meeple in a big city (28pts), city was then unoccupied and the only tile that would fit there was the unique CFRF (aka the rat tail)... So chances were 50-50 to get it. I was the lucky one.

I do enjoy the tournament but I'm not going to be unhappy when it'll be over!!

Thanks again for the game Chuck! Well played!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160713/18f2e3763a4d98dfe15e82fa1085589a.png)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Merlin_89 on July 13, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
E1
Just like that, 2 days and I've finished my games in Tower League...

95  :red-meeple: Merlin_89 -  :yellow-meeple: Halfling 90

Last game couldn't be easy. But I started much better than against Jma... Halfling took prisoners from my early cities in a game, but I was lucky and I was able to get in instantly. I've built 20+ points advantage. I had promising farm, 2 meeples guarded it. I even completed cloister, and started another one.

Then things things got complicated, as they have to in Carcassonne! Halfling did his thing, finished some cities, opened good farms. But he frightened me most with his growing city, I hoped to slow him down and I added some CCCF tiles to it, but I only helped him. At one point, it was clear that finishing it would be final blow of the game. Somehow I found entry point to join, I was rescued. Then I got help from tower I removed Halfling's knight from bigger part of the city, I could only wait for CCCX to finish it and cash in points for it. It turned out, it was impossible.

As I waited for nonexistent tile, bad part of the game (for me) started. I couldn't score significantly. Halfling started to dismantle my resources. Tower tiles started pouring into his hands. I lost meeples in joint farm (9 points), 2 cloisters... and to close whole game, with last tile he removed my last farmer from my starting farm (15 points). I could only watch...

I'm relieved that I stayed alive and won it, 5 points. Thanks Halfling for this game, quite a competition!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on July 13, 2016, 01:36:32 PM
Yes. great fun.  You throwing me out of all the cities killed my scoring.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 13, 2016, 02:22:10 PM
Here is the result of the second game of group E3:

:violet-meeple: Leven vs  :yellow-meeple: Rich_The_Fish 95:65

I can't recall a league game (without inns) where I could score so many points by roads, almost as much as by cities. One of the long roads was originally occupied by Rich, but then a tower tile helped me to remove his thief and some rounds later I could even occupy and complete the road.

There was a great battle for the most valuable farm, in the end I was able to win it with a single well-placed farmer which wasn't really threatened by towers. For most of the game this farm was tied but Rich's farmer was situated at the side so when I got a proper tower tile I removed it. Rich tried to join another farmer but there were no really promising opportunities considering the bunch of tower tiles in the vicinity. Besides, Rich was in meepleshortage in the final phase of the game as 5 of his followers were busy at other farms (4 as farmer while a fifth one was standing at the top of a tower to protect a farmer).

A strange fact: although this one was my 4th win out of 6 games, I'm still the only participant of this league who hasn't scored at least 100 points in any of the games.  :o
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 13, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
E5
Jéré  96  -  Chooselife  71

Another crazy game that I could have lost EASILY...  Big battle for the main field but at the end nobody got it.

Chooselife could have killed me with his last tile but didn't see the opportunity!! As we discussed briefly after the match, this was a major mistake that cost him the victory.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160713/760a2441275753156de96c166d66d960.png)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 13, 2016, 03:38:11 PM
Chooselife could have killed me with his last tile but didn't see the opportunity!! As we discussed briefly after the match, this was a major mistake that cost him the victory.
How so? I see an incomplete city worth 19 points, but you are 25 points ahead.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 13, 2016, 04:08:41 PM
Chooselife could have killed me with his last tile but didn't see the opportunity!! As we discussed briefly after the match, this was a major mistake that cost him the victory.
How so? I see an incomplete city worth 19 points, but you are 25 points ahead.

There is an unoccupied 30 pt farm that could be joined to Chooselife's farm with that CFFF tile.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 13, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
Okay, I missed that, but I think getting that 30-point-field means not getting the 6-point-field. He could have had an additional 24 points, which isn't enough.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 13, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Okay, I missed that, but I think getting that 30-point-field means not getting the 6-point-field. He could have had an additional 24 points, which isn't enough.

I counted only those cities which are not bordering that 6 pt farm. So that would really mean 30 additional points. (Actually it is 33, at first I miscounted the cities.)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 13, 2016, 05:16:20 PM
Yes, that's right.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 14, 2016, 12:28:34 AM
Good investigation guys.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chooselife on July 14, 2016, 01:12:33 AM
Long story short we always hope for the perfect last tile and in this case I didn't see it. :'(
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on July 14, 2016, 01:20:10 AM
The x-score lists for the T-League - groups: E1 + E3 + E5 - 14 07 2016:

In group E2 has been played only one game.
In group E4 hasn'T been played any game.
Title: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 14, 2016, 05:25:03 AM
Long story short we always hope for the perfect last tile and in this case I didn't see it. :'(

To be fair, it's not that Chooselife forgot to connect his 6-point field to the unoccupied 33-point field... what happened is a bit more complex.

He was the owner of the main field. Then I placed a tower tile right next to his farmer but I did not use my last tower piece. Instead, I decided to keep it for my last turn. He just had to remember/notice/anticipate that I would capture his meeple and connect the fields in advance so that even if I would capture a farmer, he would still win the main field with the other one.

Also to be fair, I did many mistakes too during the game... Main field was under my control for almost the entire game, or at least my farmer had the best spot. Then Chooselife managed to place a tower base 3 tiles away from my farmer and did not place any tower pieces there until the last stretch of the game... Of course I knew he would try to capture the farmer, it was a matter of time but for some reason, my attention was focused somewhere else but just for 2-3 turns... and that was enough for him to execute his plan. Well done!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on July 14, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
E3
MrNumbers vs. Rich_The_Fish
101:69 (99+2[bug points])

In this game I was forced to defend my important meeples and spent 3 meeples to cap the towers. Nevertheless I didn't feel lack of meeples and won the game by a good margin :)
Thanks for the game, Rich! :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Rosco on July 14, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
What is the bug you are talking about?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on July 14, 2016, 02:08:19 PM
What is the bug you are talking about?

This bug (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2823.msg41735#msg41735).
And thanks for the remainder, I have +2 points for my game.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Andrew the Ambo on July 15, 2016, 03:50:03 AM
E5
Chooselife 92:68 Andrew the Ambo

It was looking to be a close finish. I was trailing most of the game, never getting towers and Chooselife getting one as soon as I placed a meeple (evidenced by how many meeples of mine he had. 4 at one stage). With 3 tiles to go, it was neck and neck, and I got the majority in the main farm, but I was in a situation of being unable to defend my farmer or take out his with my last tile.
Chooselife then got a lucky draw, and managed to get a share of the main farm.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chooselife on July 15, 2016, 03:52:30 AM
Thanks for the game Andrew, I'm glad I didn't had to wake up early Saturday morning  :)).
I had a lucky draw in fact.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 15, 2016, 01:32:46 PM
E2
danisthirty (114) - zone2 (76)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/zone2_Scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/zone2_Map.jpg)

zone2 charged into this game very aggressively, kidnapping many of my meeples at every opportunity! However, this left him with literally just 1 or 2 tower blocks in the second half of the game which meant I was able to claim several farms safely once he'd run out. It was a little one-sided after this as zone2 fought to keep his share in the main farm but I was able to take him off it with ease each time. This combined with my winning the big (albeit incomplete) city outright all helped to seal the deal in my favour...

Thanks for the game zone2! :) :(y)

PS - the "secret" pennant belonged in a city that I completed although I haven't update the scores shown here to reflect this
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: khalidqasrawi on July 15, 2016, 02:51:03 PM
E2
khalidqasrawi :red-meeple: 129 : 117 :blue-meeple: Zone2

I was losing all the way.  Zone2 started very strongly, stealing a decent 11 point road from me, easily grabbing a nice 10 point city then some more and I was behind by 30 points very early.  He seemed to pick off anything I placed on the board and meanwhile scored lots 2 tile cities.  I decided my only chance was to put my efforts into the main farm and luckily there was middle board spot for me to start which was well protected from towers.  One was 3 away but I knew I could cap it which pretty soon I did.  Zone2 captured the capping meeple, so I then capped the tower that grabbed the meeple from the tower.  Then Zone2 grabbed that meeple!!  By that point he was down to 2 tower pieces so I knew the farmer could be kept safe.

From then on I was able to move more freely.  That didn't stop me from 2 big blunders, I placed the tower RRRR but misclicked and accidentally placed a rubbish farmer meeple.  Next I missed a chance to make the whole of the incomplete bottom left city mine and Zone2 jumped onto it.

But after all that, somehow, I got the win, but it felt very close.


Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 15, 2016, 03:04:36 PM
khalidq - while this game is still fresh in your memory, do you remember which of you scored the big city including the cccc with tower? Based on the number of points zone2 scored from cities I'd guess it was him, but just wanted to make sure as that player is entitled to an extra 2 points to allow for the missed pennant.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: khalidqasrawi on July 15, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
We shared it!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 15, 2016, 03:13:22 PM
OK then, so it had no effect. In this case, here is our ranking so far before any of us have played Valheru:

1st... khalidqasrawi: 4pts (+27 PD)
2nd... danisthirty: 2pts (+25 PD)
3rd... zone2: 0pts (-52 PD)

"Val-heral-heru, where are you? You've got some work to do now..." :D
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on July 16, 2016, 06:45:52 AM
E3
MrNumbers vs. ny1050220
107:85 (+2 bug points for me)

A relatively quick game, big farm changed the owner multiple times, in the end we shared it. I was luckier completing middle-sized empty cities (emptied by towers).
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 16, 2016, 08:55:56 AM
OK then, so it had no effect. In this case, here is our ranking so far before any of us have played Valheru:

1st... khalidqasrawi: 4pts (+27 PD)
2nd... danisthirty: 2pts (+25 PD)
3rd... zone2: 0pts (-52 PD)

"Val-heral-heru, where are you? You've got some work to do now..." :D

Sent everybody a message. Again, my sincere apologies for being quiet this week!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 16, 2016, 01:13:26 PM
E3
Here's my game with Rich_The_Fish. I won at 104:86 (or 105:87 if we manually take care of the pennant, no difference in PD, though).
From the break down of the scores you can see I pay ransom four times. Rich took my meeples very early on and I kept not drawing towers, so I was short on meeple in the middle stage of the game, so I had to buy my meeple back one after another. The story behind this is that we kept fight over the huge field. Rich dominated the field for quite a while before I had the rrrr tile with tower near the SE corner and took his meeple and the field as well. Rich placed a tower near the bottom of the map, attempting to take my two meeples, so I had to cap the tower again (the first capped tower is to the north of it).
Near the end, I wanted to protect my third farmer on the same field at NW, so I capped a third tower. This caused a very bad shortage of meeples: I have 3 farmers and 3 tower guards(?). That occurred when ~20 tiles were left (Correct me if I'm wrong, Rich!) So for my remaining 10 tiles I couldn't get any advantage but trying to take down Rich's knight in the huge incomplete city. He capped the same tower twice to protect his knight.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on July 16, 2016, 01:54:14 PM
From the break down of the scores you can see I pay ransom four times.

I don't bit understand: if you paid ransom, why you have positive score on ransoms?  ???
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 16, 2016, 03:23:26 PM
From the break down of the scores you can see I pay ransom four times.

I don't bit understand: if you paid ransom, why you have positive score on ransoms?  ???
I'm interested, too. I hope it's not another bug of scoring...

Tapatalk-kal küldve az én SM-G355HN-el

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 16, 2016, 05:00:14 PM
Yes, that is weird. It didn't occur to me when I post it. What's worse, now I really can't remember how many times I paid for ransom. When I wrote the summary, I thought it was four time simply because the program said the random was 12 points in total. Oh wow, that's frustrating. Before I jump to the conclusion that Rich should be the one who wins the game, let's see if Rich remembers something that helps clarify the issue and/or the bug.
To be honest, I can only recall two times when I paid ransom. Certainly, this does not mean that there was not a third and a fourth time.
I'll now have a question for Rich: did you pay ransom to retrieve you meeple? I think I captures quite a few of your meeples in the latter half of the game.
We used the online server, if that helps us understand the issue.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 17, 2016, 02:27:23 PM
From the break down of the scores you can see I pay ransom four times.

I don't bit understand: if you paid ransom, why you have positive score on ransoms?  ???

I don't think this is a bug. Rich_The_Fish said that he also had to buy back a lot of his meeples...
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: ny1050220 on July 18, 2016, 06:21:46 AM
Rich_The_Fish said that he could remember buying back at least 4 or 5, so I guess the story may be that he bought 6 and I bought 2.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Leven on July 19, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
E3
I secured 9th place of the tournament after an incredible game with MrNumbers. I needed enormous amount of lucky draws to finally win the game by one single point.
JCZ shows 96:94 as final result but MrNumbers owns the city with the faulty tower tile so by adding that extra point the final score is

:red-meeple: MrNumbers vs  :violet-meeple: Leven 95:96

Again, no 100 points for me which means that I'm the only player in this league who wasn't able to score 100 in any of the games. Still, of course I'm not disappointed after this not particularly deserved victory. On the one hand, I drew the majority of the tower tiles (and I still wasn't able to win the battle for the main farm), but my biggest lucky moment was drawing the only remaining CRFR tile which enabled me to score 24 pts by completing the abandoned city on the left. Needless to say that without that I couldn't have a chance for even playing a close game.
Thanks for this great game, MrNumbers.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on July 19, 2016, 05:07:28 PM
E1
very tense and matched game.
tiles towers fell equally , where on both sides ate meeple.

enjoy a lot with this game where every move was vital.
Jacobo 101 :red-meeple: VS Halfling 92 :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 20, 2016, 02:01:31 AM
Some Elo news:

If Jacobo wins his last game against Rosco, he will reach an Elo rating of 1400+ ! :(y) 8)

A week ago, match between Jacobo (1364) and Merlin (1448) was the Highest Rated Match in the history of Carc Central with an impressive combined Elo of 2812.

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on July 21, 2016, 12:15:52 AM
Thanks for the update elo,Jere!!!
the match against ross will be a great battle!!!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 21, 2016, 12:24:21 AM
Thanks for the update elo,Jere!!!
the match against ross will be a great battle!!!

I'm sure it will be, but it might have to wait for a little while as he's just gone off to do his adventure race thing ("476km of running, mtb, kayak, canyoning, and via ferrata - all with a lot of orienteering"). He'll be offline for the next week or so.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 21, 2016, 02:43:21 AM
Should be available today for a game or two!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 21, 2016, 05:04:48 AM
Should be available today for a game or two!

I can probably play you this evening. It would have to be quite late though, about 10pm UK time. Is this too late for you?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 21, 2016, 06:07:29 AM
Should be available today for a game or two!

I can probably play you this evening. It would have to be quite late though, about 10pm UK time. Is this too late for you?

That's around midnight for me, I guess? Should be fine!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 21, 2016, 10:51:40 AM
Urgh, Dan. Something came up. I MIGHT be able to make it but not sure. Check one time in the chatroom at the agreed hour. If I'm not there, I couldn't make it.

Sorry for the inconvenience again. This weekend I'll be available a couple of hours each day.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 21, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
Made it, I'm in the chatroom!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 21, 2016, 03:58:39 PM
Made it, I'm in the chatroom!

Thanks for the game Valheru!

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Valheru_tower_Scores.jpg)

(http://www.dan.tehill.net/Valheru_tower_Map.jpg)

Despite the scores, it felt like a pretty close game throughout that could have gone either way if the tiles had been different. Valheru put up a valiant effort but I was able to block a couple of his farmers and managed to hang on to the main farm. Additionally, he was unlucky with the tower pieces whereas I always seemed to draw them just when I needed them and always managed to capture his meeples. This meant he had a lot of buying back to do with gave me another slight edge overall!

Thanks again for the game Valheru! I'm sure you'll do well in the rest of the competition if you can keep this standard up! :) :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 21, 2016, 04:00:01 PM
What a close game that was! I felt I had the edge at some point but the game can be deceiving.

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 21, 2016, 04:00:55 PM
E2
In truth, here is the real one. Same result though  :o :( :-\
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on July 21, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
Oh yeah, so that's what happened!

In all seriousness, thanks very much for the game Valheru. I know everyone always says it (even myself when I'm being sarcastic), but it really did feel like a close game mostly and it wouldn't have taken much for the end result to have been very different! You're a great opponent and I wish you all the best against khalid and zone2! :) :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on July 23, 2016, 03:17:13 AM
danisthirty and Valheru - which score is the right one now?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 23, 2016, 04:45:27 AM
danisthirty and Valheru - which score is the right one now?

Second image posted by Valheru is the one you should use for the x-score list.   (101-55 for Dan).
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on July 23, 2016, 09:32:47 AM
danisthirty and Valheru - which score is the right one now?

Second image posted by Valheru is the one you should use for the x-score list.   (101-55 for Dan).
Thank you Jéré.

Here are the x-score lists  for the T-league - groups E1 E2 E5 and final E3.
In group E4 the players didn't played any game yet.
Title: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 23, 2016, 03:58:10 PM
E5
Last game for me in this league:

Jéré  104  -  Andrew  69

3 unplayable tiles were put aside. Not sure I had ever seen so many in a single game (can't recall). Consequence is that the player who would place the last tile changed several times during the game (and I suppose you've noticed as well how important this is with the tower expansion!). Andrew was the starting player so with an odd number of tiles put back in the box I had the chance to play the last tile.

Thanks for the game Andrew and good luck for your last game!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160723/a76ac327ef6704833199430ec4c5be70.png)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 24, 2016, 03:51:37 AM
Elo update for Group E3:
(participants sorted by finishing position)

1. Leven1364   +32
2. MrNumbers1343   +1
3. ny10502201145   +2
4. Rich_The_Fish1157   -35
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on July 24, 2016, 03:18:10 PM
E2
Khalidq  :red-meeple: 96
Valheru  :green-meeple: 73

I really wanted to break my keyboard over this one. What a frustrating game. Can't even begin to describe the turning points, essential plays etc...

Point is that Khalidq held on during the whole game, played magnificently and beat me right at the buzzer (+-8 tiles left). I was out of tiles/meeples or opportunities to counter him.

Congrats KhalidQ

My luck really turned in this league..
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: khalidqasrawi on July 24, 2016, 03:29:47 PM
I wanted to break my keyboard over this one. Beyond frustrating. Can't even begin the describe the turningpoints/essential plays/etc...

Point is that Khalidq held on during the whole game, played magnificently and took the lead right at the buzzer (+-8 tiles left). By that time I was out of opportunities to act.

This game was so intense.  I had a really bad start.  I just couldn't touch Valheru as he built feature after feature.  The best I could do was the long road whereas he got something most turns.  The huge incomplete city in the west required careful moves to keep him from getting anything from it.  It was one of those that you have to close / kill and remove your opponents meeple in the same move - heartbreaking to see so many points go to waste.  The end game had two surprises.  First, I was lucky to complete both the two south east cities after Valheru separated them with the split CCFF tile to prevent me glomming on, giving me points and adding to the farm.  Second, the central farm changed hands several times with 21 points at stake and I finally was able to own it after turning the final tower tile allowing me to remove one of Valheru's meeples.

Thanks for the game Valheru.  I think that was the hardest of the whole tournament.  Thanks everyone for playing.  I'm going to put the Tower away for a while now.

kq  :red-meeple:
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 25, 2016, 01:46:03 AM
My luck really turned in this league..

This reminds me my game against jma03 in group D. I played a nearly perfect game but still, everything capsized at the end.

Don't worry too much, your torment is almost over (1 game left). I'm done with it and very happy  :D


I'm going to put the Tower away for a while now.

Same here!! ...and congrats for finishing first in group E2!  :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chooselife on July 26, 2016, 01:16:59 PM
E5
Another very lucky tile draw made get on front by 70 odd points but excellent playing by Chuck brought the difference down (un)fortunately to late to change the final result.
(http://i.imgur.com/to0G2d1l.jpg?1)

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chuck on July 26, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
I played not my best game, so Chooselife was able to get some of my meeples. But in the final stage of the game, I was able to get the big farm by sneaking into it and thanks to Chooselifes towertile shortage, I was able to play a bit more free. So I could take some of his meeples.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on July 27, 2016, 03:23:27 AM
I believe there are only 10 games left to be played. You're doing very well everybody. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: zone2 on August 01, 2016, 12:38:35 PM
E2
:blue-meeple: Zone2 vs Valheruu :green-meeple: 97:90
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on August 01, 2016, 12:57:47 PM
:blue-meeple: Zone2 vs Valheruu :green-meeple: 97:90

Urgh, again another frustrating one and ending with 0 points in round two. Thought my good start in this tournament would mean I could capitalize on my good form and maybe finish in the top 5. Boy, was I wrong.

Instead of Zone2 starting really aggressively, I thought 'why not me for a change'. Captured a few meeples, scored some points but I was still behind. Meanwhile, Zone2 started capturing my meeples so we were even, although he had few towerpieces left. I was saving mine for the late game because EVERY game I've played with Towers changed right at the end.

The two most frustrating things about this games were the following:
- I think I drew a worldrecord in rfrf tiles. All useless at the time.
- Zone2 drew all the rcfr-tiles. My city at the right was free while he drew 3 of those tiles in 5 turns! After that, he blocked it easily.

The big city in the middle was unbelievably well protected. I was in it from the start but zone2 joined in and later captured my meeple. Thinking I'd capture his back, leaving the city empty, proved impossible. The city was worth 19 points and when you look at the final score, that could have been the deciding factor.

I think I played well, especially in the endphase. Zone2 was out of towerpieces going in the final moments and I meant to use that advantage. Unfortunately just not enough. The thing with the tower is: you have so much stuff to do, you have to make a lot of difficult choices.  I managed to steal the main farm (30p), captured a lot of meeples, blocking any attempts of his to join in on the main farm. I went from being 40 points down to 6, 2 tiles from the end. The farmer on the right (just above the 30 point mark) made me tie it, but he had one tile left. All my attempts proved in vain and zone2 won it with 7 points.

Besides being the most frustrating expansion, I still like the Tower a lot because you can turn a game around in, say, 20 tiles. That makes for really tense games, for example the one against KhalidQ and this one.

Thanks for the game, zone2 and congratulations with your 7th place overall. I have to be satisfied with the 8 place  :-\ But I'm making progress while having fun and that's the most important thing.

Also congrats to Danisthirty and KhalidQ for their places in this tournament.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on August 01, 2016, 11:50:05 PM
I went from being 40 points down to 6, 2 tiles from the end. The farmer on the right (just above the 30 point mark) made me tie it, but he had one tile left. All my attempts proved in vain and zone2 won it with 7 points.

Which tile was the last for zone2? I am just wondering, how he earned 7 points? :)
OK, I figured it out: most lower-right cfff tile :)

And, by the way, zone2 has 1 point more due the cccc tower tile bug.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on August 02, 2016, 01:05:18 AM
Elo update for Group E2:
(participants sorted by finishing position)

1. khalidqasrawi1327   +47
2. danisthirty1320   +5
3. zone21288   -20
4. Valheru1175   -32
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on August 02, 2016, 01:52:27 AM
I went from being 40 points down to 6, 2 tiles from the end. The farmer on the right (just above the 30 point mark) made me tie it, but he had one tile left. All my attempts proved in vain and zone2 won it with 7 points.

Which tile was the last for zone2? I am just wondering, how he earned 7 points? :)
OK, I figured it out: most lower-right cfff tile :)

And, by the way, zone2 has 1 point more due the cccc tower tile bug.

Well, that's depressing  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chuck on August 02, 2016, 09:33:35 AM
Guys, I'm off until Sunday. There's a little Festival in northern Germany, called Wacken Open Air....
Sorry to Andrew for not being able to play last weekend. I hope, we can do our match as soon, as I have returned!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 02, 2016, 09:37:40 AM
Here is a quick recap of the outstanding games:

E1
Rosco vs. Halfling
Rosco vs. jma03

E4
Decar vs. Hounk
Decar vs. monwil
Decar vs. rfielder
Hounk vs. monwil
Hounk vs. rfielder
monwil vs. rfielder

E5
Chuck vs. AndrewAmbo

Any news on any of these matches guys?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Hounk on August 02, 2016, 09:47:56 AM
No news from monwil and rfielder yet. But Decar and I arranged our game for Thursday just now.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on August 02, 2016, 12:12:03 PM
Guys, I'm off until Sunday. There's a little Festival in northern Germany, called Wacken Open Air....
Sorry to Andrew for not being able to play last weekend. I hope, we can do our match as soon, as I have returned!

'Little festival'  ;D

Have fun!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chuck on August 02, 2016, 12:49:47 PM



'Little festival'  ;D

Have fun!

;-) Thanks!

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on August 02, 2016, 01:01:26 PM
I have sent a message to Rosco, but I believe he is on hols? I want to get my game done so the others can play for the title.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 02, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
Your game with Rosco is critically important to him if he wants to win the league so every game matters! I think he is back from his adventures now anyway, so hopefully he should be able to play soon...
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on August 02, 2016, 01:13:19 PM
Hope so. It is months since we finished our original group.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 02, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
No news from monwil and rfielder yet. But Decar and I arranged our game for Thursday just now.

I emailed them both. rfielder is hoping to be available from tomorrow onwards so you might catch him online and get your game in then.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on August 03, 2016, 03:32:56 AM
Guys, I'm off until Sunday. There's a little Festival in northern Germany, called Wacken Open Air....
Hi Chuck -
have fun at the greatest open air festival for the Heavy Metal world.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Rosco on August 03, 2016, 07:22:23 AM
i have been away for acouple of weeks but i am back now so can play tonight or tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 03, 2016, 07:40:47 AM
i have been away for acouple of weeks but i am back now so can play tonight or tomorrow night.

I'd be up for a practice game tonight if you don't get a better offer?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on August 03, 2016, 08:12:56 AM
Hi Ross , I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
Today and tomorrow could be available after 01:00 hours Spanish.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Rosco on August 03, 2016, 10:22:49 AM
Hi Ross , I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
Today and tomorrow could be available after 01:00 hours Spanish.

Jacobo estas muy Español!

That is very very late!

I am available from about 20:00 hours gmt.  21:00 spanish.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on August 03, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
I'm up for a game if you are around Rosco.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Rosco on August 03, 2016, 01:31:27 PM
I am in the chatroom.  a bit late but computer issues.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on August 03, 2016, 01:53:11 PM
Hi Ross , I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
Today and tomorrow could be available after 01:00 hours Spanish.

Jacobo estas muy Español!

That is very very late!

I am available from about 20:00 hours gmt.  21:00 spanish.
Jajajaja,I know that be late.
Maybe in another time ( friday no work) i tell you
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Decar on August 04, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
E4
Hounk and I managed to find time to play our game this evening.

Decar: 108  Hounk: 106

I started off very badly, but got lucky completing two cloisters in quick succession by the end game.  I had to sacrifice 3 large cities to stop Hounk scoring them and for a large portion of the game I was 2 trapped meeple down.

There was some fighting for farms and I managed to edge a couple of points and nip the lead by claiming a 6 point farm with my last move.  Though I had a tower on Hounk's 6 point farm just in case  ;)


Great game Hounk, thanks for taking the time to play.  Hopefully we'll catch up with rfielder and monwil soon.

(http://tehill.net/carcassonne/jcloisterzone/JCZ_Hounk_04_08_2016_score.png)
(http://tehill.net/carcassonne/jcloisterzone/JCZ_Hounk_04_08_2016_board.png)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 07, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
Yo yo yo.
Why so slow?
Shall we stay or can we go?

^ actual poem I invented all by myself
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Decar on August 07, 2016, 09:32:46 AM
Doc Brown has nothing on you:

https://youtu.be/ympI2mdABUM

Be advised not suitable for the younger viewer  >:D
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on August 09, 2016, 12:10:10 AM
Here are the x-score lists  for the T-league - group E2 final 02 08 2016.

In group E4 the players have played only one game till now. The first game they played at 04 08 2016.
Group E1 has still 2 games to play.

I will finish the x-score list for this T-league - but these are the last ones which I fill in. I have no more interest to wait months before the players have finished their games or before the players decided to start to play their first game after the other groups have played their first game more than a month before.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on August 11, 2016, 03:00:23 AM
E1
:red-meeple: ROSS  104  :yellow-meeple: JACOBO 137
Last night we had our great battle Ross and me.

The game started equal, with few pieces of towers at the beginning.

Several small castles ( 4 points) closed.
I could take prisoner to 3 meeples of roos .
Take some advantage in the 2 main farms , but later roos he managed to get the farm north of 21 points.
The rest of the game trying to get the southern farm, up to 3 times I had to block a tower construction .

I could connect a second meeple to that farm , on the other hand the game could have been a draw.

Happy to have been able to play all my games , despite the difficulties of times.

This league has exceeded all my expectations,because we do not possess this expansion in our collection.
The next adquisisción sure to be this expansion (
It is very aggressive , strategic and positional in my view)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on August 11, 2016, 03:37:27 AM
Congratulations, Jacobo, on your win and on wining the whole Tower league!!! :(y) :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 11, 2016, 04:10:28 AM
Congratulations from me too, and congrats to Rich The Fish for being the only person able to beat the overall winner of this league. You certainly had to beat some tough opposition on your way to victory Jacobo, which is made all the more amazing by the fact that you don’t even own it! :o
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on August 11, 2016, 07:14:26 AM
Congratulations on the overall victory, Jacobo! Glad to see that our group managed the win in the end (and that I got trashed in that group by the actual winner)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on August 12, 2016, 05:14:23 PM
Thanks guys!!!
 :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: rfielder on August 12, 2016, 10:52:42 PM
E4
Hounk VS rfielder

Hounk for the win - by 2 points - on the last tile!  :)

90 - 88
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: rfielder on August 12, 2016, 11:29:28 PM
E4
Hounk vs monwil

Monwil for the win!  131-99
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on August 13, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
Congrats Jacomo. Rosco and I are scheduled for Tuesday evening.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on August 16, 2016, 09:36:35 AM
Thanks Halfling!!!
I hope you and ross have a good game to decide the position 3.
 ;)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: danisthirty on August 16, 2016, 11:40:55 PM
Congrats Jacomo. Rosco and I are scheduled for Tuesday evening.

Did this game happen?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on August 17, 2016, 06:11:17 AM
Nope, played a friendly with Adror instead.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Valheru on August 24, 2016, 08:45:42 AM
Will this get finished?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Decar on August 24, 2016, 10:23:36 AM
Still trying to schedule a good time to play rfielder and monwil, but yes!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Andrew the Ambo on August 28, 2016, 06:37:08 AM
E5
Chuck and myself finally arranged our last game.

The first half was dead even, with one getting ahead, and then the other of us evening the score.
At about 3/4 time, I managed to get in the big farm, and then steadily defended my placement by surrounding my meeple.

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chuck on August 28, 2016, 06:43:42 AM
It was a tight game. After Andrew got 20 Points ahead and placed his farmer, I had problems getting up to him.
At least, I was able to close some 2 tile cities and small roads. And at least one cloister!
He tried to sneak onto "my" farm, but the tiles were in my favor. He got in the big unfinished city with a tower city tile, so I was able to take his meeple with my last tile.
Stealing meeples was mostly done by myself, but we were very cautious with placing meeples, so we hadn't much opportunities to steal each others.

Thanks again for the game, Andrew!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on August 29, 2016, 12:16:02 PM
Only 4 games to go! I think we can call this the homestretch. Again, many thanks for your continuous efforts to make this league a success!  :(y) :)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on August 29, 2016, 01:25:52 PM
Elo update for Group E5:

1. Jéré1326  +21
2. Chooselife1168  +14
3. Andrew the Ambo1066     -2
4. Chuck1039   -33
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on August 29, 2016, 05:14:05 PM
On hols at the moment. Hope to play when I get back.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chuck on August 29, 2016, 07:02:35 PM
Elo update for Group E5:

1. Jéré1326  +21
2. Chooselife1168  +14
3. Andrew the Ambo1066     -2
4. Chuck1039   -33
Damn. I'll have to start winning games... ;-)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: rfielder on September 01, 2016, 11:05:46 PM
E4
Monwil and I finally got to play.  Kind of ironic, given that we live together.....  :)

Monwil vs rfielder

Rfielder for the win!  But it was close, 114 - 112

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: rfielder on September 05, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
rfielder VS decar

rfielder for the win!   106 - 96
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chuck on September 05, 2016, 07:52:19 PM
Seems like a close game between the two of you! :)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Decar on September 05, 2016, 08:26:28 PM
Decar (109) vs Monwil (82) - Even though I locked up 5 meeple right at the start of the game, which also meant that Monwil was forced to buy back a prisoner - it was a long arduous fight for me. 

I had to meeple block 2 towers to score a large city, which I later used a Tower to capture back.
There were only 3 worthy farms worth taking, I managed to hold two, but the game could have gone either way.

Thanks a lot rfielder and monwil taking the time on their Labour Day to play Carcassonne with me!

(http://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/jcloisterzone/JCZ_monwil_05_09_16_scoreboard.png)
(http://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/jcloisterzone/Decar_monwil_20160905_board.png)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on September 06, 2016, 07:16:48 PM
Let me know when you are available to play Roscoe.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Rosco on September 06, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
Any evening this week

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Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on September 07, 2016, 09:04:28 PM
A very close game that I won on the last tile.
 :yellow-meeple: Halfling 107
 :red-meeple: Rosco 97
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: MrNumbers on September 08, 2016, 08:01:29 AM
A very close game that I won on the last tile.
The last tile was that rrff tile, which connected you to the main field? Or some tower tile, which allowed you to capture Rosco's second farmer?
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on September 11, 2016, 05:18:03 PM
I had a Tower tile next to one of Rosco's farmer, so I waited until the last tile and removed the farmer, because I am a complete git!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: kettlefish on September 12, 2016, 09:41:25 AM
Here are the x-score lists for the groups E4, E1 and E5 also the total score list and the score statistics:

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Decar on September 12, 2016, 09:46:07 AM
Great Stats Kettlefish, thanks for taking the time to make them all so clearly!

Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on September 12, 2016, 09:51:33 AM
Great Stats Kettlefish, thanks for taking the time to make them all so clearly!
:(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Chooselife on September 14, 2016, 11:18:07 AM
Great Stats Kettlefish, thanks for taking the time to make them all so clearly!
+1  :(y) :(y)
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Merlin_89 on September 14, 2016, 01:18:23 PM
I love those 2nd places...

Once again, congrats for jma - awesome tower skills! And huge applause for users who run this League, thanks kettlefish (for all the stats and tables), Jere (ELO ranking is great motivating tool), Dan (for constant initiative on forum)!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Decar on September 14, 2016, 01:52:59 PM
Big Thanks to Dan (+1 merit) for his constant encouragement & drive for coherent Carcassonne competition!
Title: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on September 14, 2016, 02:02:56 PM

[...] Jere (ELO ranking is great motivating tool), [...]

The final Elo table will come with a delay this time (2 weeks or so)... my apologies! I'm between two business trips.

Though I sent my Elo spreadsheet to Dan in case he is thinking about arranging the World Cup, he has now the data to generate the groups, if needed.
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: jma03 on September 14, 2016, 03:43:30 PM
I love those 2nd places...

Once again, congrats for jma - awesome tower skills! And huge applause for users who run this League, thanks kettlefish (for all the stats and tables), Jere (ELO ranking is great motivating tool), Dan (for constant initiative on forum)!
I totally agree with this  :(y)
Merit for all
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Halfling on September 15, 2016, 06:49:57 PM
Thanks for doing the stats Kettlefish.  I do love looking at numbers on a spreadsheet / table.

I know I'm sad - but there you are!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: rfielder on September 18, 2016, 02:19:56 PM
Many thanks to the organizer and the statistician!
Title: Re: Tower-League - Groups E1 - E5
Post by: Jéré on November 03, 2016, 02:00:32 AM
Sorry this is very late and incomplete... but I guess better than nothing.  O:-)

I promise a full Elo update immediately after the World Cup.

1. Merlin_891437
2. jma031400
3. Leven1364
4. MrNumbers1343
5. khalidqasrawi1327
6. Jéré1326
7. danisthirty1320
8. zone21288
9. Halfling1256
10. Decar1190
11. Rosco1181
12. Valheru1175
13. Chooselife1168
14. Rich_The_Fish1157
15. monwil1149
16. ny10502201145
17. rfielder1106
18. Hounk1093
19. Andrew the Ambo1066
20. Chuck1039