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Carc Central Community => News and Events => Topic started by: kettlefish on June 09, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
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HiG at facebook (https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/photos/a.281965897298.141444.237314407298/10153351472472299/?type=1&theater)
HiG is asking what the fans of Carcassonne wish to have at the CundCoShop.
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What wishes do you have?
I will send to HiG an email with the link to this topic.
At CarcF we have the same theme:
HIG facebook-Carcassonne-Was fehlt im CundCoShop? (http://carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=2719)
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I repeat what I wrote about CarcF
White tiles for spin-off
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example wishes:
- Abbot figure in all the colours standard and the new colours
- Mini-expansions like: The Tunnel, The Cathars, The Plague, The Wind Roses I, CropCircles I
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Carcassonne "we go carcassonne" but with the "C" on back of the tile
CropCircles I
The Cathars (the 4 tiles with the face monk)
And some new expansions héhé ;D
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A full set of abbots would be greatly appreciated.
Pink & purple phantoms. Just a more complete range of supplies for the non-standard colours in general, really. (Or, following bb5, pink & purple at the very least). What else is missing and currently unavailable, other than the phantoms? Tunnel chips? Anything else?
Not that I ever play with 12 players, mind. But I do find it mildly irritating that my collection has colours that are unable to be completed.
Perhaps a bundle of non-colour-specific pieces to help scale the game to 12 players too - eg. a bag containing x number of bridges, tower sections, catapult tokens, abbeys, everything else. I'm guessing people with all 12 colours will probably have collected all of, or at least all of the readily available expansions. I know the issue of scaling has be discussed here, but I can't remember what the outcome was regarding how best to incorporate another 6 players whilst keeping the expansions balanced.
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The phantom in all new colours!
Tunnel!
Con circle 1!
Catar!
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Apart from rare expansions (though I miss only Cathars), I miss one item, what I bought from CarcassonneShoppe, but can't find at CundCo: pewter meeple with keyring. I would love to buy some more.
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Definitely corn circles 1!
Maybe tunnels would be nice too (just 1 set is not enough in larger games)
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I would definitely buy all of these items if they listed them in the stores:
- The Tunnels expansion
- More phantom colors (pink, grey, etc)
- Crop Circles 1
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The phantom in all new colours!
Would be great, but the Phantoms are even gone now in the regular colours. And HiG wrote, that there will be no new production run.
Anyway, as mentioned here (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1487.0), I once got all the available material (beside the "wood" abbey, tower pieces, castles and bridges) for 8 players through spare parts and somebody mentioned, that would be nice as a package. (Especially, if they could provide some other extras like the tunnel chips, which is quite unlikely, as long they don't even offer the regular expansion.)
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I want all of the above. Also an official La Porxada with clarified rules and the Russian Promo with a proper back. Why on earth did they need to put the Russian backs in Cyrillic?
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Some great thoughts here - Tunnels would be on my list - or a new Tunnels with more tiles.
I think it's because Carcassonne Russian/Cyrillic is: Каркассон or: karkasson
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I think it's because Carcassonne Russian/Cyrillic is: Каркассон or: karkasson
Sorry rhetorical question. My Russian extends to the alphabet and about five words. I meant I don't understand the market logic of putting it in the Cyrillic alphabet. Obviously I accept that the rules need to be in Russian and the package as well. But the playing experience of Russian players is now impacted because they cannot mix and match Russian and foreign sets - unless they use a bag of course (but that feels wrong).
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It's probably worth having this chat somewhere else, as it's off topic:
I agree it would be beneficial to players to have a common set; but it seems to be a cultural thing.
Very many games in Russia are reworked to include cyrillic. I suspect it might be that the publishers feel the game will be accepted more by their population if it uses characters they are familiar with. A bit like the opposite of the 'matsui-effect' in the UK during the 80s-90s; where a British company gave their electronic equipment an Asian sounding name to suggest it was a quality item. Perhaps a Russian consumer sees Roman font and assumes it's inferior in some way.
From the publishers perspective it can make a lot of sense: if someone wants to play Carcassonne in Russia they can buy it from us....or noone else. Also, it's been pretty hard getting items out of Russia too a lot of board game shops don't ship abroad, I think there is a mentality of closed-borders.
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Please come back to the topic.
HiG and CundCo like to know what is missing at the CundCoShop.
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- score tiles like 150/200
- the Festival (with the original rule "...an own figure...")
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Please come back to the topic.
HiG and CundCo like to know what is missing at the CundCoShop.
Okay I want to be able to order custom designed tiles.
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Please come back to the topic.
HiG and CundCo like to know what is missing at the CundCoShop.
Okay I want to be able to order custom designed tiles.
That's a GREAT idea! Like we can upload the image and they print it directly on to the official blank tile? I would buy so many!
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Please come back to the topic.
HiG and CundCo like to know what is missing at the CundCoShop.
Personally I am quite happy with having all the major expansions except the catapult (and I am quite happy not to own that one)
However judging by the fact that they are going to the effort of asking , I would say that heart and loyalty to the hardcore fans is not missing, this is a nice gesture.
Merit for HiG & CundCo
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The only spin-off I would buy would be one themed on the order of the stick (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0986.html).
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New tiles and expansions designed in collaboration between HiG and the Carcassonne fan community that would be sold in the Cundco webshop. Kinda like what they are doing with Agricola where the fan community would design new cards, test them and the publisher would subsequently make them official expansions. This could be done year on year and the artwork would be done by Doris, Anne or Chris to keep the artwork consistent and superb. The rules and design could be proof-read by Klaus Jurgen Wrede to ensure it's quality. This would surely spruce out excitement in the community and interesting new Carcassonne expansions O:-)
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New tiles and expansions designed in collaboration between HiG and the Carcassonne fan community that would be sold in the Cundco webshop. Kinda like what they are doing with Agricola where the fan community would design new cards, test them and the publisher would subsequently make them official expansions.
I would settle for that instead of custom tiles. They do publish selected fan expansions but only in electronic form.
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New tiles and expansions designed in collaboration between HiG and the Carcassonne fan community that would be sold in the Cundco webshop. Kinda like what they are doing with Agricola where the fan community would design new cards, test them and the publisher would subsequently make them official expansions.
I would settle for that instead of custom tiles. They do publish selected fan expansions but only in electronic form.
That's already reality. (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/carcassonne/fan-erweiterungen/) O0
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But the fan expansions on HiG website are electronic versions and not printed and sold. They are in a semi-official (or semi-unofficial) expansions
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Already been mentioned, but I'll add my vote to:
Phantoms in new colors (with some solution for grey)
Crop Circles 1
Abbotts in all colors
Any tiles that are considered even semi-official (ie: La Porxada, etc.)
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Phantoms in new colors (with some solution for grey)
I think the black phantom should be much darker then the now black is the new grey phantom.
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I'd agree with what has been said before: Extra tokens for the tunnels expansion so any colour can play (even if this means an alternative like quevy's wooden tunnel markers) and phantoms in alternative colours. Both of those would be excellent!
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New tiles and expansions designed in collaboration between HiG and the Carcassonne fan community that would be sold in the Cundco webshop. Kinda like what they are doing with Agricola where the fan community would design new cards, test them and the publisher would subsequently make them official expansions.
I would settle for that instead of custom tiles. They do publish selected fan expansions but only in electronic form.
That's already reality. (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/carcassonne/fan-erweiterungen/) O0
But they do not publish printed ones.
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I can't add anything new to this discussion but it seems like the original Corn Circles and The Tunnels are the most popular ideas so far. Abbots are an obvious choice too.
Personally I would quite like to see some more mini-expansions for the winter edition and also some winter edition 50/100 scoring tiles. I know most people don't use them, but I find them very helpful in my games rather than having meeples on their side or double-meeples going round the scoretrack.
Please come back to the topic.
HiG and CundCo like to know what is missing at the CundCoShop.
Okay I want to be able to order custom designed tiles.
I like this idea. It seems rather impractical or at least not very cost effective for them anyway, depending on how their printing process works and what the minimum number of tiles per batch would be etc. However, if it were a possibility I think it would be very popular. I guess some people might be interested in getting fan-made expansions printed rather than doing it themselves, others might prefer to get their own designs printed. If not for the excellent job quevy does of designing and producing the various online league tiles now, this would be huge for me!
Apart from rare expansions (though I miss only Cathars), I miss one item, what I bought from CarcassonneShoppe, but can't find at CundCo: pewter meeple with keyring. I would love to buy some more.
You'll have to ask @ailurus about these. I believe he provided the ones that Ted used to sell... :(y)
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i would like to add my wish to this list although its already been said (but the more votes the higher the chance)
- 150/200 Tiles
- Tunnel
- Corn circle I
- GQ#11 tiles, (they can reprint them, its only designing 2 extra unique tiles)
- Abbots
But most of all i want this one:
- a new river expansion, with unique parts like some fanexpansions around here. with an + section, or differen T sections
I would definitly buy all of above without even thinking about it..
P.s. Can someone give a summary on the comments HiG gave on some of the suggestions on facebook?
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Pink and Brown phantom!! ^-^ :(y)
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I'd definitely like at least a grey abbot figure.
It would be great to be able to get the "endorsed" fanspansions (Easter Bunny and City Gates) properly printed as well.
Also, wasn't there originally some idea that the Winter Edition animal tiles might have special rules? I'd like to see some officially chosen!
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- 150/200 Tiles
100/200 tiles would be great, plus a score board, which goes up to 100.
Phantoms in all colours would be really great, don't think though, that would ever happen since they even denied they will make another batch of the original ones.
I also like the idea of officially printed fanexpansions. There might be some voting before in the community, which one to consider, and KJW takes the final pick. In case of success, this might become an annual event. I don't think "print on demand", so that everybody can order any fanexp. he/she wants and they are printed individually, would work price wise.
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Official reprints of Plague, Corn Circles I, Tunnels, and GQ11 (with watermarks!). Phantoms for the six new colours. 150/200 tiles or a 100 point scoreboard. Official prints of fan expansions. A standalone Abbott expansion. Yeah, I'd pretty much support all of these. I can't think of anything else right now but I'm sure there're a few more ideas out there.
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of "River 3" yet...
River 3?
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of "River 3" yet...
River 3?
Oh most definitely. And an expansion-only version of Wheel of Fortune similar to what's in Big Box 5.
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The tunnel, Crop Circles I and Castles in Germany.
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HiG is asking what the fans of Carcassonne wish to have at the CundCoShop.
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What wishes do you have?
Cheaper international shipping :(y)
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HiG is asking what the fans of Carcassonne wish to have at the CundCoShop.
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What wishes do you have?
Cheaper international shipping :(y)
(for orders above 10 Euros)
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River 3 and wheel of fortune would be amazing (although I presume wheel of fortune would end up with the really high shipping).
Tunnel and crop circles 1 would also be very welcome.
Some new score tiles would be nice and I do like the idea of printed fan expansions.
Basically I endorse everything said before me as being a good idea!
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- Yes, the River I from Big Box 5 (that some people call River 3 to demonstrate their ability to count up to 3 :-p )
- A print-on-demand service where one would submit a approved format image file of customised tiles so that fan expansions can be printed with the same quality as the originals. (Let me dream ok?)
- A clone of kettlefish for her to take holidays and rest a bit ;)
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I would definitely want the "River 3", but I would prefer it with dark backs, so it is mixable with River II.
- Yes, the River I from Big Box 5 (that some people call River 3 to demonstrate their ability to count up to 3 :-p )
I wonder, nobody yet demanded the Russian tool, with which you have to count just to one, rather then to 12. :)
One tile, two tiles, three tiles, four. Five tiles, six tiles, seven tiles, more. 8 tiles, 9 tiles, even more then 10. I love to count the count-tiles, I'll count them all again.
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A single City of Carcassonne tile would be great.
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- A clone of kettlefish for her to take holidays and rest a bit ;)
perfect. :(y)
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River 3 and wheel of fortune would be amazing (although I presume wheel of fortune would end up with the really high shipping).
By the time you get River III, WoF big tile, pink pig and the 24 small tiles with the wheel logo (12 from WOF expansion,16 with wheel icon from base game) and pay the shipping you might be better off (or not much worse off ) with Big Box 5 . Z-Man In North America has just reprinted BB5.
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With Matthäus artwork?
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With Matthäus artwork?
Big Box 5 is all original artwork (base game, river 3, I&C, T&B , WoF, H&S) plus pink and purple meeple sets (but no A&M so no barn, wagon or mayor - Would have been nice if they had included them)
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I know, what is normally in the Big Box 5, but I'm curious, that they reprinted it now with the old artwork, although it's sometimes stated, that the new artwork was partly a royalty issue, and also because it's stated, that they will soon reprint the new version. (Some people on BGG even "confirm", that the first expansions will be reprinted in new artwork this year as well.) So, I think it's strange, that they still do a reprint of the Matthäus version.
Anyway, to get back to the topic: this might be an idea interesting for CundCo as well: a "Big Box 5 Upgrade Kit" with wood from A&M and the numbered minis in pink and purple.
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I know, what is normally in the Big Box 5, but I'm curious, that they reprinted it now with the old artwork
Big Box 5 was always (in Canada) with the original artwork except the big wheel has had the text replaced by symbols so it is not language dependant.
http://zmangames.com/rulebooks/Carcassonne_Big_Box_5.pdf
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To be more precise, I would have rather expected them to print a "Big Box 6" (with other configuration of expansions, or possibly just the same as Big Box 5, but with new artwork anyway), then an exact BB5 reprint, especially since it seems, that they still have some BB4 in stock as well.
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- A print-on-demand service where one would submit a approved format image file of customised tiles so that fan expansions can be printed with the same quality as the originals. (Let me dream ok?)
I don't think this will happen but not I believe for cost or technical reasons. Firstly technology will improve so maybe it will happen for that reason. But I suspect that even today there is probably a sweat spot where lots of people would be happy to pay for a bulk custom order and HiG would still make a profit. The trouble is HiG would have to put in checks to ensure no damage was being done to the brand. That would be really hard.
Also I wish they would provide a way to store tiles compactly and transportably.
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- A print-on-demand service where one would submit a approved format image file of customised tiles so that fan expansions can be printed with the same quality as the originals. (Let me dream ok?)
I don't think this will happen but not I believe for cost or technical reasons. Firstly technology will improve so maybe it will happen for that reason. But I suspect that even today there is probably a sweat spot where lots of people would be happy to pay for a bulk custom order and HiG would still make a profit. The trouble is HiG would have to put in checks to ensure no damage was being done to the brand. That would be really hard.
Also I wish they would provide a way to store tiles compactly and transportably.
I think that besides all that you said, they will not to prevent people from selling fan-expansions on ebay
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- Meeple magnets in all colours
- other figures as magnets (builder, pig, dragon...)
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- A print-on-demand service where one would submit a approved format image file of customised tiles so that fan expansions can be printed with the same quality as the originals. (Let me dream ok?)
I don't think this will happen but not I believe for cost or technical reasons. Firstly technology will improve so maybe it will happen for that reason. But I suspect that even today there is probably a sweat spot where lots of people would be happy to pay for a bulk custom order and HiG would still make a profit. The trouble is HiG would have to put in checks to ensure no damage was being done to the brand. That would be really hard.
Also I wish they would provide a way to store tiles compactly and transportably.
I think that besides all that you said, they will not to prevent people from selling fan-expansions on ebay
I was more thinking that HiG would need to vet all submissions rather than forbid sales on ebay. I then thought that advertising a custom tile printing service and then vetting requests would make HiG look petty. I reckon they would be foolish to offer it however much we would like it.
However what I am getting at is can we suggest to HiG that they formalize the process that is used in say "the school" or "the Darmstadt" promo so that at least in principle it becomes accessible to fans or groups of fans? As such I have two proposals that would open up the process, be self-financing and yet I believe protect the interests of HiG.
The Charity Mini-Expansion Proposal
The group proposing would need to provide:
1.) some seed money (returnable in the case of a rejected application)
2.) documentation from a reputable charity that they would be willing to participate in the scheme.
3.) A proposed expansion design with either 1,2,3 or 6 tiles and rules in German.
HiG would have the right to reject the application but would normally negotiate improvements. In the event of agreement they would give a number of free copies to the original backers and the rest would be sold from the cundco site. Half on any profits would go to the nominated charity.
The Kickstarter Expansion Proposal
The group proposing would need to provide:
1.) some seed money (returnable in the case of a rejected application)
2.) A proposed expansion design with rules in German and English.
HiG would have the right to reject the application but would normally negotiate improvements. In the event of agreement they would start a kickstarter project throwing various rewards. Presumably a pdf of the rules would be at the lowest level and a free copy at the second lowest. They probably would not find it difficult to throw in suitable rewards. The seed money backers would be assigned to a reward level only available to the original proposers. From then on it would follow the normal kickstarter rules.
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It would be nice to have a series of followers all extensions, transparent in annual version 10.
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Merchandise article:
- Floor mat (with a landscape with cloister or Inn at the lake - or with Meeple on it)
- posters of Carcassonne - perhaps landscape or the pictures from the front of the boxes...
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Some kind of official, compact multi-expansion storage box might be nice. Maybe they could bulk buy a load of art bin style cases and have some logos printed on to them?
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...expansions for Carcassonne2.0?
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...expansions for Carcassonne2.0?
...Boo. >:D
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@ asparagus: your "charity model" might work on few occasions, but more likely, when it comes from the charity organisation itself. I'm pretty this school project in Africa came with a proposal without any "expansion ideas", and they had been worked out by HiG/KJW it-/himself and it's would work like that normally.
Your "kickstarter project" on the other hand I would completely reason out. To be honest, there is a ton of official expansions, some less devoted players make even fun of that. So HiG would rather decrease the likeliness, that people would further buy official expansions, if they throw out fanexpansions through kickstarter projects. Plus, as soon, as HiG really use fanexpansions in any way commercially, they will have to pay the designer of that expansion something. Beside, there are other games, which would need much more kickstarter backers, then a Carcassonne expansion. I think, this would not be well received among other gamers, something HiG surely doesn't want to provoke as well.
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Some kind of official, compact multi-expansion storage box might be nice. Maybe they could bulk buy a load of art bin style cases and have some logos printed on to them?
Well said sir. It also needs to have a system for keeping the expansions neatly stored.
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@ asparagus: your "charity model" might work on few occasions, but more likely, when it comes from the charity organisation itself. I'm pretty this school project in Africa came with a proposal without any "expansion ideas", and they had been worked out by HiG/KJW it-/himself and it's would work like that normally.
Your "kickstarter project" on the other hand I would completely reason out. To be honest, there is a ton of official expansions, some less devoted players make even fun of that. So HiG would rather decrease the likeliness, that people would further buy official expansions, if they throw out fanexpansions through kickstarter projects. Plus, as soon, as HiG really use fanexpansions in any way commercially, they will have to pay the designer of that expansion something. Beside, there are other games, which would need much more kickstarter backers, then a Carcassonne expansion. I think, this would not be well received among other gamers, something HiG surely doesn't want to provoke as well.
That all sounds very plausible. Perhaps also all these vetted submissions should be strictly limited edition so that they had rarity value.
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...expansions for Carcassonne2.0?
...Boo. >:D
Boo +1 !
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...expansions for Carcassonne2.0?
...Boo. >:D
Boo +1 !
I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I read Decar's post not as an encouragement that we should be asking for Carc 2.0 expansions, but as a hint to HiG that nobody is interested so far...
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We're not "booing" the messenger ;) no worries
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We're not "booing" the messenger ;) no worries
:(y) :(y) :(y)
Just the message.
VOTE NO ON FUTURE CARC2 EXPANSIONS!
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We're not "booing" the messenger ;) no worries
:(y) :(y) :(y)
Just the message.
VOTE NO ON FUTURE CARC2 EXPANSIONS!
Is this going to be a popular petition? ;D
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I dont say no to new expansions in new art but i do say no to not having the new expansions in the old art. What do people think about having the new expansions available as download only to keep old fans happy- ish? or provide the old art as tile stickers in the box as well.
Then you could buy the new art with stickers and stick them on.
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I dont say no to new expansions in new art but i do say no to not having the new expansions in the old art. What do people think about having the new expansions available as download only to keep old fans happy- ish? or provide the old art as tile stickers in the box as well.
Then you could buy the new art with stickers and stick them on.
I don't mind expansions that are released in old and new styles, but if expansions were brought out only in the new art style, I personally won't bother getting them.
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1 Serious - 2 less Serious:
1) Digital version of Carcassonne (like the Digital Version of Winter Edition)
2) Carcassonne 3.0 - New artwork which could bridge the compatibility between Carcassonne and Carcassonne 2.0
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I don't consider it very likely, that they will go for new expansions in both versions, but if they would consider paying royalties to Matthäus and Pätzke for dual versions, I think, they should make it properly and produce and distribute via CundCo the old version as well, not just providing downloads or stickers.
But just lets wait and see. I think, new mini expansions like "German Castles" stand a good chance to be further released in the old artwork, because they clearly target the old gamers, while promotiles like "Darmstadt" or "Essen" very likely will go in the new art, but I wouldn't consider them a big loss. For the reprints of old and big expansions, some dude "confirmed" on BGG forum (https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1379478/traders-builders-out-print), that they will definitely be printed this year in the new art. Wonder, where he got that from, but honestly, I think it's quite likely, that that will come sooner or later, and probably sooner with many expansions oop. Regarding a sequel expansion to "Hills & Sheep", we'll have to wait, if that ever will come. And in case of, if it consists of substantial new content, or maybe just a repacking of popular old minis, "Ferries & Besiegers", who knows. Critical is the "semiannounced" Spielbox-reprint with "Tunnels" and who knows what else. I really hope, this will be old art, but quite likely could be not. And be aware of possible "minor additions" in the like of the Abbot for reprints of the classic expansions in new artwork. Has everybody to judge, if they are worth the repurchase, in my opinion it's a no.
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Some kind of official, compact multi-expansion storage box might be nice. Maybe they could bulk buy a load of art bin style cases and have some logos printed on to them?
Another great idea -- I'd buy this too!
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Blank Starting tile sheets
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Blank Starting tile sheets
That's a good one.
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I'd definitely be interested in 150/200 and 250/300 tokens!
Apart from rare expansions (though I miss only Cathars), I miss one item, what I bought from CarcassonneShoppe, but can't find at CundCo: pewter meeple with keyring. I would love to buy some more.
You'll have to ask @ailurus about these. I believe he provided the ones that Ted used to sell... :(y)
That's correct ^-^
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Official reprints of Plague, Corn Circles I, Tunnels, and GQ11 (with watermarks!). Phantoms for the six new colours. 150/200 tiles or a 100 point scoreboard. Official prints of fan expansions. A standalone Abbott expansion. Yeah, I'd pretty much support all of these. I can't think of anything else right now but I'm sure there're a few more ideas out there.
Just to echo the 100 point scoreboard point - yes I'd very much like to see such a thing appear in the shop too!
I'd gladly pay for a nice shiny official one as I'm very much after one :)
I would also like to see more bags - such as the Hills and Sheep one
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Some kind of official, compact multi-expansion storage box might be nice. Maybe they could bulk buy a load of art bin style cases and have some logos printed on to them?
Another great idea -- I'd buy this too!
Me too, really want one! It couldn't be that hard to create a storage box that fits all current expansions, AND leave room for at least 3 future expansions.
Just to echo the 100 point scoreboard point - yes I'd very much like to see such a thing appear in the shop too!
I'd gladly pay for a nice shiny official one as I'm very much after one :)
I would also like to see more bags - such as the Hills and Sheep one
Yes, yes and yes!
And to some other posts in here: they already have 50/100 and white tiles available:
50/100:
http://www.cundco.de/shop/?tx_dkdshop%5Bcategory%5D=16&tx_dkdshop%5Bproduct%5D=173
white:
http://www.cundco.de/shop/?tx_dkdshop%5Bcategory%5D=16&tx_dkdshop%5Bproduct%5D=75
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A lot of good ideas here. I'll copy the ones i'd like to see
- Out of print mini expansions such as Corn Circles I, Tunnels, and GQ11, ...
- Official prints of fan expansions and tiles fom National events (UK championship, Porxada...)
- A standalone Abbott expansion with the classic design.
- blank tiles (including boats) for South Seas and Goldrush, the other spin-offs seems poor with fan expansions
- River 3
- new mini expansions of course
- the box storage for mini expansion is a great idea
- last but not least, a more english friendly version of CundCoShop
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I forgot to mention this.
White tiles with black back, like the river.
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I forgot to mention this.
White tiles with black back, like the river.
Decar already mentioned them:
Blank Starting tile sheets
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I had not seen or did not remember. :P
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I got your back :(y)