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Title: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: LaPorxada (aka BigBoss) on March 27, 2019, 05:46:47 PM
Soon availlable @CundCo: Carcassonne Maps - Germany
https://cundco.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/282/sCategory/35 (https://cundco.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/282/sCategory/35)

Product information "Carcassonne Maps - Germany"

With Carcassonne Maps we offer you a new possibility to play Carcassonne. With Carcassonne Maps Germany you can use your tiles and Meeple in Germany, build German cities and influence the course of important streets. There are also new ways to score points, e.g. by winning the rating of a big city or by connecting streets to neighbouring countries.

The map consists of high-quality, strong, linen-embossed paper and has the size A1. Since we have to deliver the card rolled up and the dimensions are probably not compatible with the rest of the order, additional packaging may be required. An order may therefore be split into 2 deliveries. We apologize for any inconvenience.
By rolling the card we recommend to "bend against" it before use or to press it flat again under a few books. Alternatively, it can also be attached to the table with a removable adhesive tape (crepe, for example). The latter also has the advantage that it is not moved accidentally.
You get the map and use your game material. Further maps with other countries are planned.

You can find the german rules in the download link.
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/b9/18/a8/Carc_Deutschlandkarte_Regel_3.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/b9/18/a8/Carc_Deutschlandkarte_Regel_3.pdf)
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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: supertopix on March 28, 2019, 12:19:20 AM
One for me!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on March 28, 2019, 12:37:39 AM
Soon availlable @CundCo: Carcassonne Maps - Germany
https://cundco.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/282/sCategory/35 (https://cundco.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/282/sCategory/35)

Product information "Carcassonne Maps - Germany"

With Carcassonne Maps we offer you a new possibility to play Carcassonne. With Carcassonne Maps Germany you can use your tiles and Meeple in Germany, build German cities and influence the course of important streets. There are also new ways to score points, e.g. by winning the rating of a big city or by connecting streets to neighbouring countries.

The map consists of high-quality, strong, linen-embossed paper and has the size A1. Since we have to deliver the card rolled up and the dimensions are probably not compatible with the rest of the order, additional packaging may be required. An order may therefore be split into 2 deliveries. We apologize for any inconvenience.
By rolling the card we recommend to "bend against" it before use or to press it flat again under a few books. Alternatively, it can also be attached to the table with a removable adhesive tape (crepe, for example). The latter also has the advantage that it is not moved accidentally.
You get the map and use your game material. Further maps with other countries are planned.

You can find the german rules in the download link.
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/b9/18/a8/Carc_Deutschlandkarte_Regel_3.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/b9/18/a8/Carc_Deutschlandkarte_Regel_3.pdf)
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Clearly It is inspired in Carcassonne The Castle of Knizia.

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on March 28, 2019, 02:51:40 AM
I think this more closely resembles the Catan Geographies series that has been running for nearly a decade now (and national and regional Catan maps date to the early 2000s).

Personally, I am disappointed that they're sending this in tubes rather than folded in envelopes. It will cost a fortune to mail outside Germany making it prohibitively expensive to purchase. It's a cool concept for sure but it may prove to be the first unique Carcassonne item I'll have to decline to purchase.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: aenima on March 29, 2019, 12:31:49 AM
If they relase it dowloadable so that we can print as we want than ok...
In this way no.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: LaPorxada (aka BigBoss) on March 29, 2019, 01:34:58 PM
If they relase it dowloadable so that we can print as we want than ok...
In this way no.

I'm afraid not!

PS:
....its now purchasable @CundCo
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: supertopix on March 29, 2019, 02:12:54 PM
If they relase it dowloadable so that we can print as we want than ok...
In this way no.

I'm afraid not!

PS:
....its now purchasable @CundCo
Just bought it
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on March 29, 2019, 02:31:44 PM
Hi guys!

I just added a page to WICA with a translation of the rules into English.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany)

While translating the rules I spotted a possible error in the rules regarding the scoring of monasteries on the border of the map. Check footnote #2 covering this possible error in Example #4 about Scoring.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany#cite_note-2 (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany#cite_note-2)

Your feedback is welcome.

Cheers!

PS: Please check this thread for more details:

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4252.msg62514#msg62514

Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 01, 2019, 03:56:25 AM
As I feared. The maps are available now. Shipping to the US is €24.99 and to New Zealand is €28.95. Completely ridiculous and unequal to its value. If the high resolution maps become available to buy or download for free, I’ll get one of those. I can’t justify over €30 for a sheet of paper.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: meepleater on April 01, 2019, 04:22:52 AM
As I feared. The maps are available now. Shipping to the US is €24.99 and to New Zealand is €28.95. Completely ridiculous and unequal to its value. If the high resolution maps become available to buy or download for free, I’ll get one of those. I can’t justify over €30 for a sheet of paper.

That’s a shame, I might have considered this at a cheaper price.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: totor66 on April 01, 2019, 05:00:37 AM
They took my money !

Even in Germany, shipping is to 4.95, had to buy Safari to make more sense :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Halfling on April 01, 2019, 08:02:35 AM
For that price I will draw my own.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 01, 2019, 10:50:54 AM
I bought my Carcassonne Maps this morning. So excited! :D

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: thodekey on April 02, 2019, 02:16:29 AM
Euh,

Is it only me thinking "why not make a map of France as background instead of Germany?  After all - although some Germans would like to have it otherwise- Carcassonne still lies in France, right?

Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on April 02, 2019, 02:33:59 AM
Is it only me thinking "why not make a map of France as background instead of Germany?  After all - although some Germans would like to have it otherwise- Carcassonne still lies in France, right?

Nope! At first they were just sneaking a couple of monasteries and some castles into France, which seemed weird but nothing most of us couldn't overlook. Now they've stolen the entire city of Carcassonne, have smuggled it back to Germany and are rebuilding it there! This makes no sense at all...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Halfling on April 02, 2019, 05:01:54 AM
Think of carcassonne as a German enclave, similar to Asterix in his battles with the Romans!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Halfling on April 02, 2019, 11:44:40 PM
Given the oblong size of my dining table, I think I will see if I can make a USA mainland map.  Should be big enough for base game plus a couple of expansions at least.

Maybe do France instead. Cities to be
Amiens
Avignon
Bordeaux
Dijon
Limoges
Lyon
Nantes
Nice
Paris
Pau
Rennes
Strasbourg
Toulouse

Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: supertopix on April 03, 2019, 12:17:05 PM
Are the rules only in german?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 03, 2019, 03:45:22 PM
Hi supertopix,

Are the rules only in german?

You only can find the rules in German at Cundco.de so far. However, you can find a translation into English here:

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: supertopix on April 05, 2019, 08:34:58 AM
Hi supertopix,

Are the rules only in german?

You only can find the rules in German at Cundco.de so far. However, you can find a translation into English here:

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany)

Cheers!
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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 05, 2019, 04:29:46 PM
Hi supertopix,

Thank you for the heads-up. As soon as the English rules are released by Cundco.de, I'll check any necessary updates to the current page.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: aenima on April 11, 2019, 10:44:53 PM
I know I said I didn't want to buy it but in the end I did it ... and last night I tried it!  :)
So... about the rule of playing with 2 more followers, I think it's right because there is a strong possibility to place followers on cities or streets that, if stretched near the edges, remain incomplete.
Regarding the starting points, it is not a bad idea to have 2 or 3 of them ... As further starting tiles I used the 2 SpielDoch (finally an interesting use of the 2 tiles!).
I played with the basic game, the festival, the 5 Spiel promo tiles, the flying machines and the new German castles (104 tiles). I chose these expansions following the suggestions of the rules of not using rules and followers of expansions. In fact the boundary of the map limits the placement of tiles and it may happen that you have to discard tiles that cannot be placed more often, especially towards the end of the game (and it can hppen more if you add other tiles to the game).
The rush to have the cities that give the additional bonuses was interesting.
The map is really well printed.
Once the corners are fixed with weights it remains well spread on the table without undulations.
In short ... 8 € well spent!
Sure, they could make France! but I hope that they actually manage to sell enough to launch other maps (even if I already imagine they will never do Italy  :o ).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: LaPorxada (aka BigBoss) on April 12, 2019, 05:19:42 AM
updated german rules & english rules are now availlable for download @CundCo

https://cundco.de/media/pdf/90/32/78/Maps-Spielregel-D-120419.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/90/32/78/Maps-Spielregel-D-120419.pdf)
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/35/18/84/EN-Maps-rules-EN-120419.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/35/18/84/EN-Maps-rules-EN-120419.pdf)

 :(y)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 12, 2019, 06:13:15 AM
updated german rules & english rules are now availlable for download @CundCo

https://cundco.de/media/pdf/90/32/78/Maps-Spielregel-D-120419.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/90/32/78/Maps-Spielregel-D-120419.pdf)
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/35/18/84/EN-Maps-rules-EN-120419.pdf (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/35/18/84/EN-Maps-rules-EN-120419.pdf)

 :(y)
Nice!!! :D

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on April 12, 2019, 09:56:32 AM
I think that Cundco have found an issue that seems to be costing them a bit..

They now state on the website that the Carcassonne Maps can only be ordered on their own, in a maximum of 5.
I guess that the shipping is more costly for them if they need to combine it with other products.
When i ordered mine it was possible to combine, and i got it in a rectangular box with a smaller box taped to it with the other products.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 12, 2019, 11:02:07 AM
The rules on WICA are now based on the English rules release by Cundco.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany)

BTW, the rules by Cundco use "emblems" instead of "coats of arms". Has anyone seen this on any other New Edition rules?

Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 12, 2019, 11:07:13 AM
The rules on WICA are now based on the English rules release by Cundco.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany (http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Germany)

BTW, the rules use "emblems" instead of "coats of arms". Has anyone seen this on any other New Edition rules?
Thanks!! I'm really interested in the next versions of the game using expansions etc... I think that the 8th and 9th meeple should be mayor and car?

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 12, 2019, 03:01:37 PM
Hahahaha! I was hoping they had fixed some of their high shipping cost problems with their new solution, but nope! If anything, the shipping price has gone up. €28.95 for a €7.99 piece of A1 paper. Yup, still going to pass on that.

Anybody live in Germany (or an equally cheap-to-ship country) who is willing to repackage this for me? I don't mind creases on my map. It's got to be stored somehow, after all.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 12, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
Hahahaha! I was hoping they had fixed some of their high shipping cost problems with their new solution, but nope! If anything, the shipping price has gone up. €28.95 for a €7.99 piece of A1 paper. Yup, still going to pass on that.

Anybody live in Germany (or an equally cheap-to-ship country) who is willing to repackage this for me? I don't mind creases on my map. It's got to be stored somehow, after all.

I find it a shame that the shipping costs are so expensive ...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Amorpheus on April 12, 2019, 03:48:45 PM
I agree. Would really like to get this but the shipping to the US makes it too expensive. If it was group shipped with 5 in total it may end up cheap enough (for each) but then the other 4 would have to be sent on with an additional shipping cost.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 12, 2019, 03:58:49 PM
I agree. Would really like to get this but the shipping to the US makes it too expensive. If it was group shipped with 5 in total it may end up cheap enough (for each) but then the other 4 would have to be sent on with an additional shipping cost.
If we could find four or five people who would all be okay with folded rather than rolled maps, I think it would be doable. We'd just need somebody within Europe to be the distributor to keep the initial costs as low as possible.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Push on April 13, 2019, 12:38:39 PM

In short ... 8 € well spent!


IMHO 19 € (with delivery to EU up to your home) is  a good price for this poster. 
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 13, 2019, 02:40:11 PM

In short ... 8 € well spent!


IMHO 19 € (with delivery to EU up to your home) is  a good price for this poster.
I’d have to pay twice that to get it to New Zealand.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 13, 2019, 02:58:48 PM

In short ... 8 € well spent!


IMHO 19 € (with delivery to EU up to your home) is  a good price for this poster.
I’d have to pay twice that to get it to New Zealand.

Bazinga!!  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Andrew the Ambo on April 14, 2019, 01:26:15 AM

In short ... 8 € well spent!


IMHO 19 € (with delivery to EU up to your home) is  a good price for this poster.
I’d have to pay twice that to get it to New Zealand.
I am happy to split shipping costs with you. If we can find 2 or 3 others......

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 14, 2019, 03:41:00 AM

In short ... 8 € well spent!


IMHO 19 € (with delivery to EU up to your home) is  a good price for this poster.
I’d have to pay twice that to get it to New Zealand.
I am happy to split shipping costs with you. If we can find 2 or 3 others......

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Sweet! Any Europeans willing to act as the staging ground? That's also needed.

Also, Andrew, I'm relocating to Auckland in a month. Maybe we'll finally be able to meet!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 03:54:10 AM

In short ... 8 € well spent!


IMHO 19 € (with delivery to EU up to your home) is  a good price for this poster.
I’d have to pay twice that to get it to New Zealand.
I am happy to split shipping costs with you. If we can find 2 or 3 others......

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Sweet! Any Europeans willing to act as the staging ground? That's also needed.

Also, Andrew, I'm relocating to Auckland in a month. Maybe we'll finally be able to meet!


If I understood correctly, would you look for a European address to send the maps to and then send that person to New Zealand?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 14, 2019, 04:00:57 AM
Yep, but it would be cheaper/faster if someone in Germany volunteered.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 04:34:16 AM
Yep, but it would be cheaper/faster if someone in Germany volunteered.

Well, I'm from Spain but If nobody from Germany offers I offer myself without problem.  :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 14, 2019, 04:41:59 AM
I guessed right. Me too!  ;D

Te iba a preguntar por el Domingo de Ramos  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 05:03:39 AM
I guessed right. Me too!  ;D

Te iba a preguntar por el Domingo de Ramos  ;)

jajajaja qué bueno! pues aquí en casa jajaja la gente por la calle con las palmeritas yo paso  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 14, 2019, 05:05:31 AM
I guessed right. Me too!  ;D

Te iba a preguntar por el Domingo de Ramos  ;)

jajajaja qué bueno! pues aquí en casa jajaja la gente por la calle con las palmeritas yo paso  ;D

Yo en el tren de camino a ver la familia... Oche que esto de los móviles y el Internel son la caña  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 05:14:17 AM
I guessed right. Me too!  ;D

Te iba a preguntar por el Domingo de Ramos  ;)

jajajaja qué bueno! pues aquí en casa jajaja la gente por la calle con las palmeritas yo paso  ;D

Yo en el tren de camino a ver la familia... Oche que esto de los móviles y el Internel son la caña  ;D


pues siii jajaj a disfrutar con la familia! yo a la tarde saldré a dar una vuelta jeje
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 14, 2019, 06:09:20 AM
En inglés, por favor, gente. Este es un foro de discusión en inglés.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 06:14:26 AM
En inglés, por favor, gente. Este es un foro de discusión en inglés.
Talking about what are you doing this Sunday, nice to meet you and somethings like that nothing relevant or about the theme.

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 14, 2019, 06:26:21 AM
En inglés, por favor, gente. Este es un foro de discusión en inglés.

May I assume you speak Spanish too?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 06:27:59 AM
En inglés, por favor, gente. Este es un foro de discusión en inglés.

May I assume you speak Spanish too?
Thats what I thought too lol or maybe he use a translator... ;D

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on April 14, 2019, 06:35:44 AM
This is a mystery....  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 06:36:19 AM
This is a mystery....  :o
hahahahahah

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on April 14, 2019, 07:45:56 AM
Translators are great, but this is still an English speaking forum, and to help everyone in understanding the conversation, it is preferred to keep it that way.
In private messages any language can be used of course, but the (public) forum is English spoken

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 14, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
Translators are great, but this is still an English speaking forum, and to help everyone in understanding the conversation, it is preferred to keep it that way.
In private messages any language can be used of course, but the (public) forum is English spoken

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on April 14, 2019, 03:05:09 PM
I have to say as an international forum, I think it's important to accept all forums of language.  Whether anyone else understands what is said is a different issue entirely.

As an example, recently we had a new member join the forum from France who isn't fluent in English, but has made several contributions and collaborated with others on projects.  I'd not like to see this stop because of some rule about English and that's coming from someone who just gets by with English.

For a long time HiG has considered this the 'American' forum, not appreciating we have members from all over the world!

I appreciate having messages you can't read can be annoying, so I'll do my best to split topics if language branches too frequently.

If you arent a native English speaker, I appreciate taking the time and energy to compose stuff, so i can take part in discussions. Thank you!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 14, 2019, 03:07:10 PM
I didn't mean anything negative by the comment, just pointing out that this is specifically an English-language thread. We have a number of threads that are in other languages, but those began that way. I can read and write some Spanish, but I don't like jumping between Google Translate to understand the entirety of a thread. I meant no offence. In any case, you said you'd act as a European distributor: how much does shipping cost from Cundco to your house for 5 maps?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on April 14, 2019, 03:13:38 PM
Certainly wasnt aiming my comments at anyone in particular, and dont think anything anyone has said was offensive!

13.95€ for 5 maps. That come is a pretty big box!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: inigomartinez on April 15, 2019, 06:30:08 AM
Regarding people from Spain (@Meepledrone, @DrMeeple, @whaleyland?), have you already acquired the Deutsch map?

I was about to buy it, but the shipping is a bit expensive and seems to be less expensive if 3/5 copies (10.64€/9.78€ each) are bought. If you still haven't bought it, are you thinking on buying it together?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 15, 2019, 09:00:12 AM
Regarding people from Spain (@Meepledrone, @DrMeeple, @whaleyland?), have you already acquired the Deutsch map?

I was about to buy it, but the shipping is a bit expensive and seems to be less expensive if 3/5 copies (10.64€/9.78€ each) are bought. If you still haven't bought it, are you thinking on buying it together?

Yes, my carcassonne map just arrive the past week. Sorry.... :(
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 15, 2019, 01:14:44 PM
Lol. I’m in New Zealand, now Spain. I’m trying to get five people together who are willing to get it sent to one European home where the maps can then be folded and put into envelopes to be sent overseas at affordable prices. So far just me and Andrew the Ambo, who also is in NZ, are in. We need three more and a European willing to act as the re-distributor.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on April 15, 2019, 01:21:10 PM
I'm not convinced they'll fold very well.  They're not paper, but a kinda plastic sheet.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 15, 2019, 01:24:34 PM
I'm not convinced they'll fold very well.  They're not paper, but a kinda plastic sheet.
Yes it's a thin plástic in a cardboard box.

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on April 15, 2019, 01:59:29 PM
Well in that case, I may just have to give up entirely. The cost of shipping a tube of map from Germany is prohibitive. The only way it could be affordable is to fold it. If that's not an option, then I give up, which maybe isn't a bad thing.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on April 15, 2019, 02:32:55 PM
It's a kind of paper with a thin layer of rough plastic that gives it resistance, really. But in any case I wouldn't double it because it would be damaged. In the same tube they send you up to 5 ... I already said that I offer myself without problem (it would be from Spain).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: totor66 on October 22, 2019, 01:01:49 AM
They released the new rules for the map includiung Germany with the new Chips expansion

https://cundco.de/media/pdf/47/9e/b0/CarcMapsRegeln_DE_10_19b.pdf

Pretty excited :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on October 22, 2019, 01:29:23 AM
Wow! This is great news! Thanks for the heads-up  ;D

Let's see when the rules for the Tollkeepers are available too, and all the rules area also available in English.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on October 22, 2019, 02:42:14 AM
Five maps! I knew there were three plus the Germany map from last year, but I feel like a fifth one snuck in. Iberia? Great Britain? Either way, five maps sounds great since that's how many Cundco will ship in a tube. Also, with new chips for the maps, I wonder if they've decided to repackage the maps in a folded format. It would certainly save on shipping and allow people to order them with other items. I hope to get all five plus the Tollkeepers. They look fun. I just hope that they toss in a free Spiel 19 tile with the bunch or I'm going to be a bit ticked off. I also need to buy the new Ringmasters. Gotta maintain my complete set of meeples (except the base game Abbots – still not buying a third base set, sorry).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on October 22, 2019, 03:57:14 AM
I would prepare yourself to be ticked off in that case. I would be very surprised if they drop any Spiel 19 tiles in with their orders just for the sake of it. In previous years, as you know, tiles left over from Essen have been kept back for some special offer that usually starts in early December. Perhaps you could wait for the maps until then?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on October 22, 2019, 04:19:00 AM
I would prepare yourself to be ticked off in that case. I would be very surprised if they drop any Spiel 19 tiles in with their orders just for the sake of it. In previous years, as you know, tiles left over from Essen have been kept back for some special offer that usually starts in early December. Perhaps you could wait for the maps until then?
No worries there. I mean to wait until December to order, but I will test out to see how much shipping will cost before then. If they do fold the maps, shipping shouldn't be awful. If they don't, then who knows. I seem to remember it being a small fortune just to order the German map last year, prompting me to decide against it.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on October 22, 2019, 04:31:02 AM
Cool cool. If it works out any cheaper for you I'm happy for you to send them in a roll to me in the UK, then I can fold and forward on. Guess we'll have to see how it works out.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Carcatronn on October 25, 2019, 01:34:30 PM
Are these maps worth it?  Wish there was a shop in the USA that sold Carcassonne paraphernalia still  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Piasekstc on October 27, 2019, 04:26:10 AM
No worries there. I mean to wait until December to order, but I will test out to see how much shipping will cost before then. If they do fold the maps, shipping shouldn't be awful. If they don't, then who knows. I seem to remember it being a small fortune just to order the German map last year, prompting me to decide against it.

I have Germany and hmm.. The material from which it is made is some "plastic paper". Not very thick and quite strong but still I don't know how you can fold it without making irreversible bends or maybe even cracks or cuts. I mean, it's possible but it's risky.

Are these maps worth it?  Wish there was a shop in the USA that sold Carcassonne paraphernalia still  ;)

I think they are. I mean, I'm not sure if you should suddenly buy all the maps but since we got "Germany", we only play on it. It changes your approach to the way you play. As for me there are two reasons related to space and freedom of laying tiles:
1. Reaching: You can start in one of three different places and you can play as you always do but because of those big cities with bonuses that are already placed/printed on the map, besides (or sometimes instead) of laying tiles freely, you try to figure out how to connect to these cities to make theme your own.
2. Borders: You can't feel it when you start but as the game progresses you can see that there is not enough space to expand your cities or roads in this or that direction because of the borders. Limited space forces you to think more strategically than in normal Carcassonne. Sometimes you have a really hard time to make/get a good points from last few tiles or even to place them at all.

Size of "Germany" (like Spain, France and Luxembourg) requires 110-120 tiles so gives you a chance to add to the base game at least two random expansions so you don't lose the pleasure of playing with additional rules. Now there are "Chips" so it should be even more entertaining.

For us, 114 tiles wasn't enough (there was to much spaces/slots left) so we added German Castles which makes 126, and makes you think twice harder as these are double tiles.             
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: cidervampire on October 28, 2019, 10:31:29 AM
Are there rules for combining multiple maps?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: totor66 on October 29, 2019, 01:59:36 AM
No it was not sold this way.

Guess it would involve a heavy set of house rules to make it work + A LOT of expansions to fill the gaps

Don't know if I would recommend it
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: totor66 on October 29, 2019, 03:12:58 AM
And by the way, english rules are now available, so are order. -> Wrong sorry, just in german map as before

For people living in Germany like me, it costs the same in shipment to order all new maps as it was costing to order just 1. I believe it's the same for everybody
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Amorpheus on October 29, 2019, 01:59:22 PM
Just checked cundco.de. Shipping 4 maps to the US is €30, but adding the fifth one takes shipping to €42. I could then add several other items (like tollkeepers, map chips, etc) which did not change the shipping price above €42.

So it seems to me the shipping rate for the maps is based on the order € size. Five maps rolled in one tube may cost a bit more but shouldn’t cost €12 more to ship than 4 maps.

Am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on October 29, 2019, 11:51:33 PM
I didn't realise these are available to purchase now. Just loaded up my cart to get the price estimate (I won't buy until December, when the free Spiel 19 tile is thrown in). Total price for the five maps, map chips, Tollkeepers, and 6 ringmasters is €44.14. Shipping: €45.95!!! God I hate German shipping prices. At least this time around, I am getting a lot of content. Last year, the price just wasn't worth it for one bloody map. Price doesn't change if I remove a map, either, so that option's gone. Looks like this December will be an expensive one. Better save up!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: supertopix on October 30, 2019, 12:31:45 AM
I didn't realise these are available to purchase now. Just loaded up my cart to get the price estimate (I won't buy until December, when the free Spiel 19 tile is thrown in). Total price for the five maps, map chips, Tollkeepers, and 6 ringmasters is €44.14. Shipping: €45.95!!! God I hate German shipping prices. At least this time around, I am getting a lot of content. Last year, the price just wasn't worth it for one bloody map. Price doesn't change if I remove a map, either, so that option's gone. Looks like this December will be an expensive one. Better save up!
Probably you would wait till mid november...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: JT Atomico on November 12, 2019, 06:23:01 AM
Has anyone translated the German rules (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/47/9e/b0/CarcMapsRegeln_DE_10_19b.pdf) for the map chips expansion yet? I wasn't able to find anything around the place.

Cundco
has this message (https://cundco.de/en/accessories/282/carcassonne-map-chips-english-rules-as-download-here?c=47):
Quote
(The english rules are available in a few days. Sorry for the delay!)
but it's been like that for over a week now, at least, with no update.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on November 12, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
Be patient my friend! I’ve been waiting for natural and white set of meeples soo long....


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Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: JT Atomico on November 13, 2019, 02:45:16 AM
Has anyone translated the German rules (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/47/9e/b0/CarcMapsRegeln_DE_10_19b.pdf) for the map chips expansion yet?
Be patient my friend! I’ve been waiting for natural and white set of meeples soo long....

I'll take that as a no.

I have run it through Google Translate to try to piece together the rules. You can find the result attached, in case that is useful to anyone!

The translated PDF doesn't have any of the original formatting or images, so you may want to cross-reference it with the German rules (https://cundco.de/media/pdf/47/9e/b0/CarcMapsRegeln_DE_10_19b.pdf).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on November 13, 2019, 06:34:56 AM
Hi JT Atomico,

I was planning, one of these days, to start working on the WICA page for the Carcassonne Maps update. Last time I put the page before the English rules were released. I was trying not to rush it just in case HiG released them soon.

I'll keep you posted about the progress. The more images  in the rules, the longer it takes to create the page.  ???

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: JT Atomico on November 13, 2019, 08:05:28 AM
Thanks Meepledrone! I think I've been able to piece them together from the Google Translate now, but it will be nice when we get something official from HiG. :green-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: supertopix on November 14, 2019, 02:08:01 AM
Maps rules are online at Cundco.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on November 14, 2019, 02:23:00 AM
Wow!!! This is great news. The English rules are finally online.

Thanks for the heads-up and have a great time!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on November 19, 2019, 07:04:45 AM
Has anyone tried out the new maps, or new expansion tokens yet? I'm planning on getting all of them (of course), but am interested to see what the experiences so far are! :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on November 19, 2019, 12:19:20 PM
Wow!!! This is great news. The English rules are finally online.

Thanks for the heads-up and have a great time!
I'm just reading through the English rules with the new chip tokens, and noticed an error in their translation.
In the rules for the Great Britain map, to get a meeple back from the Ilse of Man, it states to either have 3 chips of the same number, or three chips of the same colour. However, the illustration shows 3 chips of 3 different colours .
And in the German rules it also states that 3 different colours are required instead of 3 of the same colour.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Meepledrone on November 19, 2019, 01:57:09 PM
Hi Willem,

With the previous rules, I wrote to Cundco about some errors in the examples about scoring monasteries on the border of the map.

In my case they made the corrections in less than a week.

Are you contacting them then?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Amorpheus on November 19, 2019, 03:03:58 PM
Thanks for posting about the English rules. I looked into US shipping again for the 5 maps, and it’s still at €43. I was hoping they could all be rolled in one tube for a more reasonable shipping price. Shouldn’t cost €13 more to ship 5 instead of 4 maps.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Rich_The_Fish on November 19, 2019, 03:43:40 PM
Thanks for posting about the English rules. I looked into US shipping again for the 5 maps, and it’s still at €43. I was hoping they could all be rolled in one tube for a more reasonable shipping price. Shouldn’t cost €13 more to ship 5 instead of 4 maps.
I was going to point out that they're avail from this (usually good value) seller in UK, but tracked shipping to US isn't very reasonable!
https://www.bgextras.co.uk/carcassonne-expansions-c15.htm?a=1&page=2(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191119/287854a5923dcde52d69076e35b84621.jpg)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Amorpheus on November 19, 2019, 04:51:55 PM
Haha! Insane.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Murphy013 on November 21, 2019, 01:56:18 AM
I would call it Brexit
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on November 21, 2019, 02:07:20 AM
I would call it Brexit

Why?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Murphy013 on November 21, 2019, 05:54:27 AM
Have a look on the shipping costs. GB is an island
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on November 21, 2019, 05:56:36 AM
That's that business's rate for shipping to the USA.
I don't understand your conclusion.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Murphy013 on November 21, 2019, 07:01:40 AM
Be honest, are 250£ shipping costs serious in UK?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on November 21, 2019, 07:13:22 AM
Almost certainly not. It's the same thing as you sometimes see on Amazon with third party sellers who don't want to remove their item and re-add it, for example if they're going on holiday and don't want anyone to order anything of theirs while they're away as they won't be able to fulfil it, so put a crazy shipping price on their thing to stop anyone from buying it.

As for why boardgameextras would do this, I'm not sure. But it's certainly nothing to do with Brexit as thankfully we're still in the EU at the moment and can continue to enjoy the benefits that this membership brings.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on November 21, 2019, 07:39:15 AM
And certainly has nothing to do with shipping to the USA.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: boardgameextras on November 22, 2019, 04:48:38 AM
Hi Andrew Wood from Board Game Extras here,
the shipping of these maps is a bit problematic. In that they are too  big to go regular mail, so they have to go by courier. 
the problem is that while we got good rates on courier jobs within the EU, outside of the EU it is expensive.
I will need to contact the couriers to see what rate we can get but it is still going to be expensive (ok not £250 but certainly at least £50)

the other problem is how the website deals with things.   So there is no simply checkbox that says item must go by courier, instead everything has a weight and so we have to use a high figure to force the system to give a courier cost, however, if you order 2 things to go by courier, then it gets more complicated as there are two 'courier weights' in the system, and then if you order 5 it goes up even higher.  There is no neat solution for this.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on November 22, 2019, 05:52:15 AM
Hi Andrew, and welcome to the forums!

Thanks for taking the time to explain this in person.

Best wishes,
Dan
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on November 22, 2019, 06:10:42 AM
thank you very much for explaining Andrew!

i was thinking of suggesting to contact him for the shipping, as there surely is a reasoning behind it, and i am sure that if someone does, he would give a good quote on what it would cost.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Rich_The_Fish on November 25, 2019, 03:14:36 PM
Thanks very much for letting us know Andrew. Really glad there's an understandable explanation behind it, I was really flabbergasted when I saw it and wondered if it might be an error.

I have ordered Carc items from BGE several times before and been impressed with the price and (UK) availability, so wanted to SHARE in case others weren't aware (but also to point out non UK addresses might face rather steep P&P charge).

PS Received my Wingspan expansion pre order the other day, thanks Andrew for the prompt delivery.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: boardgameextras on February 19, 2020, 05:07:09 AM
So now we've got Christmas well and truely out of the way, I've revisited this and updated the shipping costs
(please note if you order a mixture of items there still may be a problem as it can get a bit complicated but if you are just ordering the maps with one or two expansions it should all work fine)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Amorpheus on October 29, 2020, 04:10:03 PM
Has anyone in the US figured out a reasonable way (cost) to get the Carcassonne maps shipped here? I still don’t have any of them, and now there are US maps I’d love to get. But shipping of 40+ euros for posters is too much to pay for it.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on October 29, 2020, 07:41:15 PM
Has anyone in the US figured out a reasonable way (cost) to get the Carcassonne maps shipped here? I still don’t have any of them, and now there are US maps I’d love to get. But shipping of 40+ euros for posters is too much to pay for it.
I haven't found a good one yet. That being said, six maps at €40 shipping isn't as bad. They are very high quality maps, at least, so the quality is good, not that that helps anything.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on October 30, 2020, 01:51:32 AM
Perhaps you could get a little group of you together and split the cost of postage between you? I don't know how easy it would then be to forward the maps within the US but it may make it more affordable overall depending on the size of the group.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on October 30, 2020, 01:57:18 AM
Good luck with your map endevours
Title: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Amorpheus on October 30, 2020, 05:21:26 AM
Good suggestion and thanks for the well wishes. Anyone on here live in or near Charlotte NC by any chance, and would also want to get these maps?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on October 30, 2020, 11:09:21 AM
Up until 2 or 3 years ago Cundco postage was disproportionately expensive on most international orders, including the UK. There must have been at least half a dozen or so occasions where Decar or someone else has co-ordinated a group buy and then either forwarded things on or waited until a suitable meet up opportunity to give everything out.

I guess that's less likely to work in the US, certainly with regards meeting up in person to hand stuff over. But it's definitely worked here.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on October 31, 2020, 04:08:32 AM
I'd happily cut the maps into A4, or fold them, if that helps anyone state side. Although I think you'll be disappointed on receipt, the posters are quite thick plastic, I think folding may simply damage the artwork, or stop it easily folding out.  I have a high quality rotary cutter, but I dont think it was intended to cut plastic and I'd rather not damage the cutter, I could use a smaller one or use a rotary knife though.

If I have time I'll add some closeup photos so you can see the material used.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Chmura on October 31, 2020, 12:03:24 PM
And what about buying big boards and not cutting? ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Decar on November 02, 2020, 01:25:53 AM
Because posting a board to the United States would cost even more!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: DrMeeple on November 02, 2020, 01:41:28 AM
I'd happily cut the maps into A4, or fold them, if that helps anyone state side. Although I think you'll be disappointed on receipt, the posters are quite thick plastic, I think folding may simply damage the artwork, or stop it easily folding out.  I have a high quality rotary cutter, but I dont think it was intended to cut plastic and I'd rather not damage the cutter, I could use a smaller one or use a rotary knife though.

If I have time I'll add some closeup photos so you can see the material used.
I use a 0,3mm A1 size metharylate sheet to place on the map that I will use as protection. Then I save it all in a A1 size folder for all maps and the metharylate sheet. Althought with the new maps of the US I will have to buy another extra metharylate sheet....

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: MeepleFriend on November 02, 2020, 05:08:29 AM
What we need is for someone Europeside to fold the map into a reeeeally good paper airplane and fly it across the Atlantic.  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: danisthirty on November 02, 2020, 06:40:49 AM
What we need is for someone Europeside to fold the map into a reeeeally good paper airplane and fly it across the Atlantic.  ;D

That is the most sensible comment I've read on this thread. Thank you. I'll get to work right away! :D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Allograft on September 07, 2021, 12:53:04 PM
How well do sleeved tiles work with the maps? -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: TheDoctor_13 on October 06, 2021, 01:36:11 AM
How well do the maps stay flat? Do you need to keep the corners weighted?

I hope the maps will be available on the BGG store like the USA maps eventually, or other options. I checked Cundcos shipping for the other 5 and that's one big purchase haha. You think this is a product that need to worry about getting out of stock / print any time soon?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Whaleyland on October 06, 2021, 01:49:54 AM
How well do the maps stay flat? Do you need to keep the corners weighted?
I actually store all of them upright behind a bookshelf and they stay mostly flat. Slight curve on one side, but I just put a mug or something on that corner.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on October 06, 2021, 01:50:24 AM
For now it seems that the maps are here to stay. There are quite a few different ones available now, and even some like the Taiwan map popping up.

They are usually rolled up for shipping, so definitely recommend putting some books on the edges to flatten it when you receive them.
I keep my maps in an A1 folder that I got from Amazon. Just a simple, cheap folder helps a lot to store them flat or standing up
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Allograft on October 06, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
I keep my maps in an A1 folder that I got from Amazon.

Link please -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Maps
Post by: Willem on October 06, 2021, 11:27:36 PM
This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07892T4KX/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_GDQ3Q08HY9FEN5JXDHSB) is the one I got.
It's not a super stiff one, but does the job for me   ;D