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Offline Leven

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2017, 09:25:06 AM »
Our first draw! As much as I thought about how to handle these, I was never 100% on how they should affect scores. For now I've put the result of match 61 down as 2 - 1 to glh510 with the point distribution being the same as if it had been a 2 - 0 defeat. Any suggestions?

Did I misunderstand your league opener post where you defined the rules of the point distribution?
I thought when there is a win and a draw, one of the players gets 2 points and the other gets 1.

If the match is won (2 games - 0), the winner gets 2 league points and the loser gets nothing. If the match is tied (1 game each), both players get 1 league point. If either (or both) game(s) results in a draw, the match could end with scores of 2 - 2 (both games tied - fairly unlikely) or 2 - 1 (a win and a draw). A result of 2 - 2 is treated as a normal tie and each player is awarded 1 league point.
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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2017, 10:03:08 AM »
Hounk and I are probably playing on Fri (or over the weekend)

Good luck with your game! I don't know for sure, but please be aware that you might have to upgrade to the latest version of JCZ if you want to play your match on the online server.
Appreciate the heads up, thanks. We're playing late tonight btw.

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2017, 01:15:46 PM »
Game 1 Whatif? started
Whatif? 76 - 79 Halfling

Game 2
Halfling 105 - 85 Whatif?
The Geek shall inherit the earth if we get a good die role

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2017, 01:18:12 PM »
I wrote a pm to Rosco two days ago but he is probably busy. I am back online on Monday so hopefully we can play beginning of next week. Are we still in time then?

A draw should be rewarded with 0,5 pts is my opinion too. I think this wont be the last draw in this league because games are often very close in bg.

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2017, 01:34:25 PM »
I still think that Dan's initial post of this league declared that in case of a win and a draw the players receive 2 and 1 pt.
And I'm not the only one who understood that sentence this way:

If I understood correctly Dan scoring Wins score 1 point and Draws score 0,5Points (which need to be rounded up so we can have a 2-1 scoring on a one win and one draw situation)

And there's kettlefish whose x-score list wasn't appropriate for this league because of the different scoring system. As I see it actually the win+draw case was the main difference. Or am I wrong?

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2017, 04:05:28 PM »
Two enjoyable games of blocking and trapping with Rich the Fish tonight. Both won by the starting player First one, I was on the lucky side, with 2 farms won out 2:0, one by Rich and one by me, but mine was the bigger one, which won me the game 102:93.

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2017, 04:05:51 PM »
Rich_The_Fish v Hounk - Game 2

Final scores:
 :red-meeple: 82 - Rich_The_Fish (start player)
 :green-meeple: 69 - Hounk

A very close game with the outcome only decided right at the end.
[I'll write up the game in a bit of detail in the morning]

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2017, 02:18:38 AM »
I would expect 0.5 each for a tied game.

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2017, 03:23:02 PM »
I still think that Dan's initial post of this league declared that in case of a win and a draw the players receive 2 and 1 pt.
And I'm not the only one who understood that sentence this way:

If I understood correctly Dan scoring Wins score 1 point and Draws score 0,5Points (which need to be rounded up so we can have a 2-1 scoring on a one win and one draw situation)

And there's kettlefish whose x-score list wasn't appropriate for this league because of the different scoring system. As I see it actually the win+draw case was the main difference. Or am I wrong?

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner Leven. To be honest, I wasn't even aware that I'd left that in the rules (it was possibly copy-pasted from somewhere else and left in by accident) but since it's there it would be unfair of me to change it so the 2 - 1 scoreline will remain. C:-)

For future reference though, I think the 1.5 / 0.5 is possibly a better fit as I like the idea that each match has 2 league points given to it which are dealt out between the two players depending on the outcome of that match (2 - 0 or 1 - 1). If it's 2 - 1 then it's almost like that match had an extra point to give away, just because one of the games was tied. Also, if the other game had been tied in the match between Leven and glh510, the overall result of the match would have been a tie and the scores would have been 1 - 1. In this case, Leven gets 1 point anyway so isn't really penalised in any way for losing the second game (rather than it being another draw).

But what's said/ written is said/ written. Let's play on! :) :(y)

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2017, 11:09:13 AM »
Rosco isnt responding. Can anyone try to get in touch with him via another media?

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2017, 02:37:15 PM »
Rosco isnt responding. Can anyone try to get in touch with him via another media?

I messaged him via Facebook. He says he emailed you today and is off work atm so should be available any time.

Good luck to both of you!

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2017, 02:14:22 PM »
My round 8 games are complete.  they fell in my favour today!

Rosco 113 - 93 Adrornalin (started)
(Started) Rosco 100 - 89 Adrornalin

Just lay the damn tile!

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2017, 02:19:02 PM »
Woohoo! Congrats Rosco and commiserations Adrornalin.

I will post the updated board and kick off round 9 (of 15) tomorrow. Stay tuned! :D

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2017, 02:54:42 PM »
In the first game I focussed several turns in a row on doing stupid things. And I succeeded! For example placing a farmer far away from any city and try to connect it to another non-existing "farm".
Second game went better but I was not able to take the lead. Congratulations Rosco and thanks for playing. Looking forward to the next lea.. ehm round I mean ; )

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Re: 2017 Basegame League - Round 8
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2017, 12:14:40 AM »
Elo ratings after Round 8 available HERE:)


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